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I am v keen on applying to INSEAD and was aiming to apply in R1 for Jan14 intake. However, I gave my GMAT today and got a score of 700 (Q50 90%, V 34 69%). Now, I am v confused as to whether i should give a retake of GMAT since my verbal score percentile at 69% is quite low. Even INSEAD recommends that the score should be between 70-75% in both the Q & V sections.

Now, I am confused as to whether my low verbal give me a huge disadvantage Esp in INSEAD. My profile:
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5 yr Work Experience in Sales and Strategy.
Engg from a top 10 college with good grades

I was planning to apply in R1 with Apr 3rd as deadline, now if I given retest I will need to push my app to R2 which i dont want to. INSEAD is the only college i am keen to apply due to its 1 yr program. Look forward to advice..
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I am v keen on applying to INSEAD and was aiming to apply in R1 for Jan14 intake. However, I gave my GMAT today and got a score of 700 (Q50 90%, V 34 69%). Now, I am v confused as to whether i should give a retake of GMAT since my verbal score percentile at 69% is quite low. Even INSEAD recommends that the score should be between 70-75% in both the Q & V sections.

Now, I am confused as to whether my low verbal give me a huge disadvantage Esp in INSEAD. My profile:
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5 yr Work Experience in Sales and Strategy.
Engg from a top 10 college with good grades

I was planning to apply in R1 with Apr 3rd as deadline, now if I given retest I will need to push my app to R2 which i dont want to. INSEAD is the only college i am keen to apply due to its 1 yr program. Look forward to advice..


My two cents:

I understand your problem. In my opinion, you should re-take.
Had it been any other school I would have advised you not to re-take but this is INSEAD and as far as I understand, they give a lot of importance to the verbal score. Your GMAT needs to be better also because you are from the highly competitive "Indian" pool. I believe there is no point in going in with a half baked package.
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alphagmat wrote:
Hi all
I am v keen on applying to INSEAD and was aiming to apply in R1 for Jan14 intake. However, I gave my GMAT today and got a score of 700 (Q50 90%, V 34 69%). Now, I am v confused as to whether i should give a retake of GMAT since my verbal score percentile at 69% is quite low. Even INSEAD recommends that the score should be between 70-75% in both the Q & V sections.

Now, I am confused as to whether my low verbal give me a huge disadvantage Esp in INSEAD. My profile:
Indian
5 yr Work Experience in Sales and Strategy.
Engg from a top 10 college with good grades

I was planning to apply in R1 with Apr 3rd as deadline, now if I given retest I will need to push my app to R2 which i dont want to. INSEAD is the only college i am keen to apply due to its 1 yr program. Look forward to advice..


My two cents:

I understand your problem. In my opinion, you should re-take.
Had it been any other school I would have advised you not to re-take but this is INSEAD and as far as I understand, they give a lot of importance to the verbal score. Your GMAT needs to be better also because you are from the highly competitive "Indian" pool. I believe there is no point in going in with a half baked package.


Thanks "Indian Express" for your quick reply. I also was slightly inclined towards giving and your reply and reading about other retakes has strengthened my resolve to give it.

I have read your retake brief and after reading it, I have another peculiar thing on which I need advice. R1 for INSEAD ends on 3rd April. I am planning to give the retest on around 15th March since I feel I need to focus on Verbal only specifically from a test timing point of view and not start from scratch all over again. Hence, I feel 1 month should be sufficient to prepare for it. However, I am thinking to apply in R1 itself. This is because my office work is such that unless I have exam/app deadline over my head, I will not be able maintain a consistency of focus. Having mentally prepared to apply in R1, now applying in R2 means waiting with all this tension in my head till mid Jun which I am not too keen. Plus if I now delay applying in R1, I will most likely start studying again in Mar and I will lose my momentum that I have built over the last 2 months.

So, that means in the next 45 days, I need to take a retest (by 15th Mar) and complete one application also (by 3rd Apr) ( I am applying only to INSEAD).

My plan for the next 30 days would be work on my application during the 2-3 week days every week ( when i am too tired to study) and work on verbal for GMAT during the rest of the days and weekends. For GMAT, I plan to focus only on completing OG Verbal, GMAT Prep Ques pack, eGMAT course. So, I will get around 20 days of solid study on GMAT and maybe 30 days for application uptp 3rd April.

Do you think, that since there is only 1 application and considering all that I wrote regarding my situation, this is doable and importantly, advisable?
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alphagmat wrote:
Hi all
I am v keen on applying to INSEAD and was aiming to apply in R1 for Jan14 intake. However, I gave my GMAT today and got a score of 700 (Q50 90%, V 34 69%). Now, I am v confused as to whether i should give a retake of GMAT since my verbal score percentile at 69% is quite low. Even INSEAD recommends that the score should be between 70-75% in both the Q & V sections.

Now, I am confused as to whether my low verbal give me a huge disadvantage Esp in INSEAD. My profile:
Indian
5 yr Work Experience in Sales and Strategy.
Engg from a top 10 college with good grades

I was planning to apply in R1 with Apr 3rd as deadline, now if I given retest I will need to push my app to R2 which i dont want to. INSEAD is the only college i am keen to apply due to its 1 yr program. Look forward to advice..


My two cents:

I understand your problem. In my opinion, you should re-take.
Had it been any other school I would have advised you not to re-take but this is INSEAD and as far as I understand, they give a lot of importance to the verbal score. Your GMAT needs to be better also because you are from the highly competitive "Indian" pool. I believe there is no point in going in with a half baked package.


Thanks "Indian Express" for your quick reply. I also was slightly inclined towards giving and your reply and reading about other retakes has strengthened my resolve to give it.

I have read your retake brief and after reading it, I have another peculiar thing on which I need advice. R1 for INSEAD ends on 3rd April. I am planning to give the retest on around 15th March since I feel I need to focus on Verbal only specifically from a test timing point of view and not start from scratch all over again. Hence, I feel 1 month should be sufficient to prepare for it. However, I am thinking to apply in R1 itself. This is because my office work is such that unless I have exam/app deadline over my head, I will not be able maintain a consistency of focus. Having mentally prepared to apply in R1, now applying in R2 means waiting with all this tension in my head till mid Jun which I am not too keen. Plus if I now delay applying in R1, I will most likely start studying again in Mar and I will lose my momentum that I have built over the last 2 months.

So, that means in the next 45 days, I need to take a retest (by 15th Mar) and complete one application also (by 3rd Apr) ( I am applying only to INSEAD).

My plan for the next 30 days would be work on my application during the 2-3 week days every week ( when i am too tired to study) and work on verbal for GMAT during the rest of the days and weekends. For GMAT, I plan to focus only on completing OG Verbal, GMAT Prep Ques pack, eGMAT course. So, I will get around 20 days of solid study on GMAT and maybe 30 days for application uptp 3rd April.

Do you think, that since there is only 1 application and considering all that I wrote regarding my situation, this is doable and importantly, advisable?


It does sound like a plan provided that you are able to stick to it!
I would just like to add that don't underestimate the application process. It may be only one application but the first one is the most time consuming one.
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Hi,

I had taken GMAT in may 2012. but ended up with a disappointing score of 610 (Q49V25).
I plan to take my GMAT again this year in september
Please guide me as to how should I go about this attempt.
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I had taken GMAT in may 2012. but ended up with a disappointing score of 610 (Q49V25).
I plan to take my GMAT again this year in september
Please guide me as to how should I go about this attempt.


Here you go: gmat-study-plan-for-gmat-novices-start-your-gmat-journey-80727.html and you can focus on the verbal: how-to-improve-verbal-from-v30-to-v40-142361.html
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Hello,

I am a member since 2007, however did not utilize this forum at my best. Now I think I am sure your help seriously ! I have already taken GMAT 4 times.

1st in 2007 : 560 (Q-48, V-19) (Not valid now!)
2nd in 2010 : 570 (Q-48, V-19)
3rd in Sep’12 : 610 (Q-48, V-25)
4th in 5th Jul’13 : 570 (Q 47, V-21) (I thought of retaking for the last time to increase my score 650+ but miserably failed :cry:

Last few month I have been preparing for the last time ( :!: ) thinking that I would surely get 650+. Unfortunately I ended up with the horrible 570 once again. I am now afraid of retaking. I am really blank on my scores. This time I prepared for almost 2.5 months on regular basis and last 2 weeks almost 10 hours a day. My scores in various CATs were as follows.

MGMAT-1 : 520: Q-42, V-20 (1st attempt) 590: Q-45, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-2 : 650: Q-41, V-37 (1st attempt) 600: Q-47, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-3 : 570: Q-40, V-29 (1st attempt) 660: Q-45, V-35 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-4 : 610: Q-45, V-30 (1st attempt) 570: Q-42, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-5 : 630: Q-39, V-37 (1st attempt) 670: Q-45, V-36 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-6 : 580: Q-42, V-28 (1st attempt) 670: Q-46, V-35 (2nd attempt)

GMAT Practice Test-1 : 590: Q-48, V-21 (1st attempt) 670: Q-50, V-28 (2nd attempt)
GMAT Practice Test-2 : 610: Q-48, V-25 (1st attempt) 710: Q-50, V-35 (2nd attempt)

I also took Kaplan test but could managed consistently 580-610 in all 4 tests.

Now I am in a serious problem.. :cry: and trying to introspect whether I SHOULD retake?? I know my Verbal is very weak, but last few CATs I was getting average 30+, hence I thought its has improve a bit. But after retaking real GMAT finally on 5th July, it seems my status is same. Request Your suggestion on the following :idea: :

1) It is advisable to retake GMAT for 5th time?
2) Can I apply with this scores only? I am targeting Indian B schools (ISB, IIMs), Singapore (NUS, INSEAD & Nanyang), Hong Kong (HKUST & CEIBS) and CANADA (Schulich & Rotman). My brief profile given below.
3) If I need to improve my score to 700+, then what I am supposed to do and how?


My brief profile is:

10th : 80%
10+2 : 70%
B.Tech. : 74% (From NITs)
Total Work Exp. : 8+ Years in Manufacturing / automotive industry.
Current Org. : Working as manager with TATA Motors in Strategic & Business Planning.
Field of work : Project management, Planning & Budgeting.
International Exposure: Visited Thailand, Belgium & Netherlands for work purpose ( Total ~ 2 months)

Request your kind help :idea: .

Regards,

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New post 08 Jul 2013, 18:40
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Hello,

I am a member since 2007, however did not utilize this forum at my best. Now I think I am sure your help seriously ! I have already taken GMAT 4 times.

1st in 2007 : 560 (Q-48, V-19) (Not valid now!)
2nd in 2010 : 570 (Q-48, V-19)
3rd in Sep’12 : 610 (Q-48, V-25)
4th in 5th Jul’13 : 570 (Q 47, V-21) (I thought of retaking for the last time to increase my score 650+ but miserably failed :cry:

Last few month I have been preparing for the last time ( :!: ) thinking that I would surely get 650+. Unfortunately I ended up with the horrible 570 once again. I am now afraid of retaking. I am really blank on my scores. This time I prepared for almost 2.5 months on regular basis and last 2 weeks almost 10 hours a day. My scores in various CATs were as follows.

MGMAT-1 : 520: Q-42, V-20 (1st attempt) 590: Q-45, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-2 : 650: Q-41, V-37 (1st attempt) 600: Q-47, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-3 : 570: Q-40, V-29 (1st attempt) 660: Q-45, V-35 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-4 : 610: Q-45, V-30 (1st attempt) 570: Q-42, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-5 : 630: Q-39, V-37 (1st attempt) 670: Q-45, V-36 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-6 : 580: Q-42, V-28 (1st attempt) 670: Q-46, V-35 (2nd attempt)

GMAT Practice Test-1 : 590: Q-48, V-21 (1st attempt) 670: Q-50, V-28 (2nd attempt)
GMAT Practice Test-2 : 610: Q-48, V-25 (1st attempt) 710: Q-50, V-35 (2nd attempt)

I also took Kaplan test but could managed consistently 580-610 in all 4 tests.

Now I am in a serious problem.. :cry: and trying to introspect whether I SHOULD retake?? I know my Verbal is very weak, but last few CATs I was getting average 30+, hence I thought its has improve a bit. But after retaking real GMAT finally on 5th July, it seems my status is same. Request Your suggestion on the following :idea: :

1) It is advisable to retake GMAT for 5th time?
2) Can I apply with this scores only? I am targeting Indian B schools (ISB, IIMs), Singapore (NUS, INSEAD & Nanyang), Hong Kong (HKUST & CEIBS) and CANADA (Schulich & Rotman). My brief profile given below.
3) If I need to improve my score to 700+, then what I am supposed to do and how?


My brief profile is:

10th : 80%
10+2 : 70%
B.Tech. : 74% (From NITs)
Total Work Exp. : 8+ Years in Manufacturing / automotive industry.
Current Org. : Working as manager with TATA Motors in Strategic & Business Planning.
Field of work : Project management, Planning & Budgeting.
International Exposure: Visited Thailand, Belgium & Netherlands for work purpose ( Total ~ 2 months)

Request your kind help :idea: .

Regards,

Prabhat


I can't speak as to whether you will get in with that score - don't know how int'l schools work. With respect to improving your score, it's clear independent studying isn't working on the verbal side. You need a step change on multiple tests in a row to show you have mastered the content. Occasionally getting a 30+ here and there is just luck, and very hard to replicate on test day when you are nervous. It also seems like you are taking far too many practice tests where you should be spending more time on content. Perhaps a private tutor makes sense?
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New post 12 Jul 2013, 06:06
Hi all,

Is there any statistics that if a person has retaken the GMAT exam has increased his score compared to the previous attempts?
If he is able to increase his overall score then what is the mean of the increase?
does anyone knows the statistical figures of retaking GMAT and the revised results?
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New post 17 Jul 2013, 18:09
GMAC has run some numbers on average score improvements, and the data isn't terribly encouraging. About 25% of repeat testers actually see a decline in their score the second time around, and the average overall score improvement is about 33 points... but most of that improvement is enjoyed by test-takers who started below a 600.

GMAC's blog post can be found here: http://officialgmat.mba.com/2012/12/04/ ... t-testing/. There's also a slightly more detailed article available here: http://www.gmac.com/~/media/Files/gmac/ ... at-testing.

But don't let that discourage you. Here, read this if you need some inspiration: 420-570-590-700-harvard-business-school-132221-40.html
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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.
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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.



Sorry to hear that - good job on the Quant though. I think that is a stronger 710 than than a 700 and with 3Q point improvement, you got more value than with a 720 that would have a Q42 for example. So still a success!
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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.



Sorry to hear that - good job on the Quant though. I think that is a stronger 710 than than a 700 and with 3Q point improvement, you got more value than with a 720 that would have a Q42 for example. So still a success!


I hope so! You're right, bb. I slept on it and I'm okay with moving on with my apps... My goal was to increase Quant and I did, but the percentiles are so atrocious that a Q48/49 would have made me feel more confident. How is it that two years ago Q47 would be 78 percentile and now it's 70 percentile?! Even my Q44 was 63rd; a Q47 would have put me in the 73rd BEFORE July when they changed the scaling. I hope adcoms see the 3Q bump and give me the benefit of the doubt.

I'll keep my GMAT books at the ready in case any schools "suggests" that I retake for the 3rd time. I almost wish they would, lol! I hope my IR is 5+. I so messed up on some of those questions. I scored a 7 last time.

Okay, now I'm going to end my GMAT obsession and just focus on the next steps ;-) I haven't even told my friends that I retook it, they'd probably look at me crazy- GMATClub only knows!
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Hi,

I took the GMAT 3 weeks ago and scored a 620 (Q41, V35). I'm planning on retaking it at the end of December and want to score 700+ for a top 10 school. If I can reach the 700+, I want to apply this year for R2. I've already taken two GMAT courses and am worried about the correct study plan/strategy for the next two months since I'm planning to self-study now. I've met with a GMAT tutor three times to go over my weak areas (Algebra, FDPs, Word Problems, Number Properties, CR). My plan so far is to review most of the videos on Magoosh and I've already through the MGMAT strategy guides again to make sure I have the math concepts down. I will also go through OG 13 again and make sure I can solve each OG problem. However, I feel that I've seen a lot of the OG problems before and won't learn anything new. I'm also looking into getting the GMAT Club Quant tests. Am I using too many resources and if so, which ones should I be focusing on to mainly improve my quant score to at least a 47-48? Any advice would be much appreciated.
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If you can improve your Quant score, you will very well go beyond 700.
1 Do MGMAT guides for concept understanding. Dont jump to problem solving unless you have understood the concepts thoroughly.
2 Once you are confident about your quant preparation start giving your Gmat club tests (excellent tests). Advanced Manhattan guide is available once you start scoring Q49.
3 Are you consistent on your Verbal score. If not, that is a concern because you are not selecting answers for the right reason. I took the egmat verbal course plus read MGMAT guides and improved my score by 6 points.
4 While giving GMAT club tests, find out which areas within quants you are making mistakes- In my case it was DS- Modulus. Work on your weak areas. This will be the key between Q49 and Q50.

All the best in your preparation. May you reach your dream school.
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Hi,

I'm looking for some advice to get me out of my troubling situation.

Scored a 710 in my first attempt (49Q 39V). I felt I could do a lot better. I was hoping to improve my quant to 50 and verbal to 40. So ended up giving the gmat a second time however ended up with a 680 (lower score in both quant and verbal) :cry:

Being an Indian applicant (without stellar undergrad credentials) I think I need a higher score and I'm planning to give the gmat again around the 10th of December. So exactly a month to go. While introspecting into what might have gone wrong I realized that my preparation lacked something pretty basic. I gave a lot of mock tests but never stuck to the exact timing. I used to often pause my tests, go on breaks and on instances completed tests over 2-3 days. The problem now is that I've used up all of my mock tests- Kaplan (all 5), MGMAT (all 6) and official gmatprep (both)

Moreover I've practiced questions from all over the place: Quant from -OG13, Quant review 2nd edition, Manhattan advance gmat, gmat 800, veritas, gmatclub math book and gmatclub.com questions. Verbal from- OG13, verbal review 2nd edition, veritas advanced, SC grail, etc.

I am really unsure as to how to restart studying and from where. Would appreciate if someone could help me out by recommending a plan of action and also recommending some other sources for practice. Also would be great if someone could suggest some other mock tests available (willing to pay for tests also)

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New post 11 Nov 2014, 06:44
so I took the gmat nov 1st - 680. Some soft spots on quant so pretty sure I can improve. Question is - in my retake prep, I am focusing on answering questions in my problem areas - I am only going to retake 1 full test (I took around 10 before the first one) but I need a good test.

1. I already did all the manhattan GMAT ones.
2. I already did all 4 GMAT prep ones

Which test would be a good gauge. Do you think the economist is a good one? I think I might have a Princeton review one left but I've heard those scores are inflated.
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New post 03 Dec 2014, 10:53
Hi, I took my GMAT today and got a 600(Q-39,V-34) :(
Even though its a 110 point increment from my initial diagnostic, I'm really disappointed as clearly this score is not enough to get into most schools(Kelley,Schulich,George town) which I plan to apply to.(The schools have an avg gmat score of 650).
I'm really shocked with my Quant score and not sure what happened during the test. I feel the score doesn't represent my quant ability but am still not sure whether I should re-take the gmat. Any suggestions ??
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