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Hello everyone,
Great forum spirit here I have found this forum recently or about 2 weeks ago. I took my gmat for the first time and the results are as you see 430..Quant 30 Verbal 19...I thought I'd be around 500 or 550...I don't know what to do next..I have applied to 5 universities-2 in Canada-Concordia Investment management program and Un Of Toronto- Mathematical Finance..I really want to get into one of those two but I'd have to try harder..Now my dilemma is that I have also applied to Information Security program in Lewis University,Il , Business analytics at Drexel and Actuarial science at Maryville...I am pretty sure I'll be accepted there.I have some previous experience in a foreign bank, investment banking firm in Manhattan and wealth management in UBS AG in New York.I have very well written motivation letter and letters of recommendation from my ex superior at work and some of my professors.I have graduated with a finance major from St. John's University last year and I was an international student there. Now the question is..do i sit down and study for about a month or so for the next gmat date which is around 10 April or 16 April..which gives me aroind 40 days or less to prepare and get arround 550-600-650 mark or..stop relax and take the actuarial science program or the information security..These two universities are not near the top 100...However I look for something that will increase my chances of landing on a job...I don't know how are things in Canada but the programs they offer are great..Money is no object here.I can afford to pay anywhere however I am sure I will probably get some scholarship.I had the Barrons 13th edition done for the gmat.I recently got the Manhattan books..So please recommend me a place to start if you think I should perceive my dream of getting into Concordia or Toronto..Bad thing is they only accept total of 90 students.. for both universities....so chances are slim...
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HI Please Provide me idea of how to prepare for G mat in 3 months i need a perfect plan to score above 680

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Hi,

I had taken GMAT in may 2012. but ended up with a disappointing score of 610 (Q49V25).
I plan to take my GMAT again this year in september
Please guide me as to how should I go about this attempt.

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I had taken GMAT in may 2012. but ended up with a disappointing score of 610 (Q49V25).
I plan to take my GMAT again this year in september
Please guide me as to how should I go about this attempt.


Here you go: gmat-study-plan-for-gmat-novices-start-your-gmat-journey-80727.html and you can focus on the verbal: how-to-improve-verbal-from-v30-to-v40-142361.html
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Hello,

I am a member since 2007, however did not utilize this forum at my best. Now I think I am sure your help seriously ! I have already taken GMAT 4 times.

1st in 2007 : 560 (Q-48, V-19) (Not valid now!)
2nd in 2010 : 570 (Q-48, V-19)
3rd in Sep’12 : 610 (Q-48, V-25)
4th in 5th Jul’13 : 570 (Q 47, V-21) (I thought of retaking for the last time to increase my score 650+ but miserably failed :cry:

Last few month I have been preparing for the last time ( :!: ) thinking that I would surely get 650+. Unfortunately I ended up with the horrible 570 once again. I am now afraid of retaking. I am really blank on my scores. This time I prepared for almost 2.5 months on regular basis and last 2 weeks almost 10 hours a day. My scores in various CATs were as follows.

MGMAT-1 : 520: Q-42, V-20 (1st attempt) 590: Q-45, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-2 : 650: Q-41, V-37 (1st attempt) 600: Q-47, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-3 : 570: Q-40, V-29 (1st attempt) 660: Q-45, V-35 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-4 : 610: Q-45, V-30 (1st attempt) 570: Q-42, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-5 : 630: Q-39, V-37 (1st attempt) 670: Q-45, V-36 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-6 : 580: Q-42, V-28 (1st attempt) 670: Q-46, V-35 (2nd attempt)

GMAT Practice Test-1 : 590: Q-48, V-21 (1st attempt) 670: Q-50, V-28 (2nd attempt)
GMAT Practice Test-2 : 610: Q-48, V-25 (1st attempt) 710: Q-50, V-35 (2nd attempt)

I also took Kaplan test but could managed consistently 580-610 in all 4 tests.

Now I am in a serious problem.. :cry: and trying to introspect whether I SHOULD retake?? I know my Verbal is very weak, but last few CATs I was getting average 30+, hence I thought its has improve a bit. But after retaking real GMAT finally on 5th July, it seems my status is same. Request Your suggestion on the following :idea: :

1) It is advisable to retake GMAT for 5th time?
2) Can I apply with this scores only? I am targeting Indian B schools (ISB, IIMs), Singapore (NUS, INSEAD & Nanyang), Hong Kong (HKUST & CEIBS) and CANADA (Schulich & Rotman). My brief profile given below.
3) If I need to improve my score to 700+, then what I am supposed to do and how?


My brief profile is:

10th : 80%
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B.Tech. : 74% (From NITs)
Total Work Exp. : 8+ Years in Manufacturing / automotive industry.
Current Org. : Working as manager with TATA Motors in Strategic & Business Planning.
Field of work : Project management, Planning & Budgeting.
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Request your kind help :idea: .

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Hello,

I am a member since 2007, however did not utilize this forum at my best. Now I think I am sure your help seriously ! I have already taken GMAT 4 times.

1st in 2007 : 560 (Q-48, V-19) (Not valid now!)
2nd in 2010 : 570 (Q-48, V-19)
3rd in Sep’12 : 610 (Q-48, V-25)
4th in 5th Jul’13 : 570 (Q 47, V-21) (I thought of retaking for the last time to increase my score 650+ but miserably failed :cry:

Last few month I have been preparing for the last time ( :!: ) thinking that I would surely get 650+. Unfortunately I ended up with the horrible 570 once again. I am now afraid of retaking. I am really blank on my scores. This time I prepared for almost 2.5 months on regular basis and last 2 weeks almost 10 hours a day. My scores in various CATs were as follows.

MGMAT-1 : 520: Q-42, V-20 (1st attempt) 590: Q-45, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-2 : 650: Q-41, V-37 (1st attempt) 600: Q-47, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-3 : 570: Q-40, V-29 (1st attempt) 660: Q-45, V-35 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-4 : 610: Q-45, V-30 (1st attempt) 570: Q-42, V-27 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-5 : 630: Q-39, V-37 (1st attempt) 670: Q-45, V-36 (2nd attempt)
MGMAT-6 : 580: Q-42, V-28 (1st attempt) 670: Q-46, V-35 (2nd attempt)

GMAT Practice Test-1 : 590: Q-48, V-21 (1st attempt) 670: Q-50, V-28 (2nd attempt)
GMAT Practice Test-2 : 610: Q-48, V-25 (1st attempt) 710: Q-50, V-35 (2nd attempt)

I also took Kaplan test but could managed consistently 580-610 in all 4 tests.

Now I am in a serious problem.. :cry: and trying to introspect whether I SHOULD retake?? I know my Verbal is very weak, but last few CATs I was getting average 30+, hence I thought its has improve a bit. But after retaking real GMAT finally on 5th July, it seems my status is same. Request Your suggestion on the following :idea: :

1) It is advisable to retake GMAT for 5th time?
2) Can I apply with this scores only? I am targeting Indian B schools (ISB, IIMs), Singapore (NUS, INSEAD & Nanyang), Hong Kong (HKUST & CEIBS) and CANADA (Schulich & Rotman). My brief profile given below.
3) If I need to improve my score to 700+, then what I am supposed to do and how?


My brief profile is:

10th : 80%
10+2 : 70%
B.Tech. : 74% (From NITs)
Total Work Exp. : 8+ Years in Manufacturing / automotive industry.
Current Org. : Working as manager with TATA Motors in Strategic & Business Planning.
Field of work : Project management, Planning & Budgeting.
International Exposure: Visited Thailand, Belgium & Netherlands for work purpose ( Total ~ 2 months)

Request your kind help :idea: .

Regards,

Prabhat


I can't speak as to whether you will get in with that score - don't know how int'l schools work. With respect to improving your score, it's clear independent studying isn't working on the verbal side. You need a step change on multiple tests in a row to show you have mastered the content. Occasionally getting a 30+ here and there is just luck, and very hard to replicate on test day when you are nervous. It also seems like you are taking far too many practice tests where you should be spending more time on content. Perhaps a private tutor makes sense?

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Hi, I am in need of some advice. I took the GMAT in May 2012 (680- Q49/V34). I want to apply to b-schools this year. I want to know if it is advisable to retake the GMAT considering the score, year taken and profile. I am an Indian and have a total of 3 years of experience as of today in the IT industry as a software developer. I have a percentage of 62.4 in my B.Tech. Also could you suggest which are the schools(US and outside) i can aim for with this profile and score.

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Hi all,

Is there any statistics that if a person has retaken the GMAT exam has increased his score compared to the previous attempts?
If he is able to increase his overall score then what is the mean of the increase?
does anyone knows the statistical figures of retaking GMAT and the revised results?

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GMAC has run some numbers on average score improvements, and the data isn't terribly encouraging. About 25% of repeat testers actually see a decline in their score the second time around, and the average overall score improvement is about 33 points... but most of that improvement is enjoyed by test-takers who started below a 600.

GMAC's blog post can be found here: http://officialgmat.mba.com/2012/12/04/ ... t-testing/. There's also a slightly more detailed article available here: http://www.gmac.com/~/media/Files/gmac/ ... at-testing.

But don't let that discourage you. Here, read this if you need some inspiration: 420-570-590-700-harvard-business-school-132221-40.html
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New post 30 Jul 2013, 05:35
BB- please advise whether I should take gmat again or not.

I have a 670 and targeting indian b schools. Got 49 in quant and 31 in verbal. Had 720 in gmat prep 2.

Though I always had 660,670,680 in mgmat but always with quant - 45-46 and verbal 34-35-36.

what do u suggest ? what should I do different this time ?

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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.

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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.



Sorry to hear that - good job on the Quant though. I think that is a stronger 710 than than a 700 and with 3Q point improvement, you got more value than with a 720 that would have a Q42 for example. So still a success!
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Ugh. I retook. I had a 700 44Q, 41V and only jumped to 710 47Q, 40V. I'm not particularly happy with my test performance on the retake (especially for verbal), but I'm applying R1 so I'm just going to suck it up and keep it moving.



Sorry to hear that - good job on the Quant though. I think that is a stronger 710 than than a 700 and with 3Q point improvement, you got more value than with a 720 that would have a Q42 for example. So still a success!


I hope so! You're right, bb. I slept on it and I'm okay with moving on with my apps... My goal was to increase Quant and I did, but the percentiles are so atrocious that a Q48/49 would have made me feel more confident. How is it that two years ago Q47 would be 78 percentile and now it's 70 percentile?! Even my Q44 was 63rd; a Q47 would have put me in the 73rd BEFORE July when they changed the scaling. I hope adcoms see the 3Q bump and give me the benefit of the doubt.

I'll keep my GMAT books at the ready in case any schools "suggests" that I retake for the 3rd time. I almost wish they would, lol! I hope my IR is 5+. I so messed up on some of those questions. I scored a 7 last time.

Okay, now I'm going to end my GMAT obsession and just focus on the next steps ;-) I haven't even told my friends that I retook it, they'd probably look at me crazy- GMATClub only knows!

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Hi Guys,
I gave my GMAT 2 days back and got 550 score. I will be retaking GMAT by September (since 31 days gap is mandatory). My problem is that, I have an interview call from one of a top B School next week.
I wanted to know if this B-School will consider my current marks, or they can also consider my retest marks ?

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I sat for GMAT last year for the first time. I had prepared for it for about four months and I ended up with a 650 (Q48, V31). I am not native and this is what the Verbal score reveals. I hold and MBA and now I am looking for a PhD. So my 650 doesn’t help me much. I applied with this score for PhD at Schools like George Washington and SFU Beedie and the result was what I expected, reject. My score works for so many master programs but as I already hold MBA and fixing financial matters for Master programs are much harder, I am somewhat reluctant to consider one more master in USA or Canada. But on the other hand I hear advices that studying a master or one more MBA in USA or Canada would improve my eligibility to enter PhD programs in these countries.
All in all, what I have planned to do is to retake the GMAT and also consider MBA or master programs as transitions towards PhD. I think, considering the level of Schools I have focused on, a score around 700 would be enough (for PhD). As you may have seen, there are lots of stories about score improvement (around 50 points) in second GMAT experience. I hope my story would be similar. I have a four month preparation ahead of me to improve from 650 to around 700.
Thought maybe you find my story helpful. Please let me know if you have any suggestion for me.

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Hey bb and others,

Posting my situation: took GMAT end of April (4 months ago) and got 710 (47q/40v). Started studying in July for second attempt and retook today, focused 85/15 on quant / verbal. Needlessly to say, I managed time horribly on verbal and got 690 (49q/34v). I had approx 17 mins with 15 questions left on verbal and just completely lost it at the end :( not sure if I should retake and whether the 40v was a fluke...

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Hello everyone,

Took the GMAT a few days ago and scored a 620 (q47,v28). Thanks to a stomach bug (which just didn't get cured inspite of my herculean efforts), I had to take two unscheduled breaks, one in quant and one in verbal conveniently. Ergo, couldn't complete both of my sections. Made it to problem no. 32 in Math and q.no 31 in Verbal when the time ran out. My Prep scores were 730. Before going into the retake argument, I would like to point out a few things regarding the official exam. Apart from the bitter memory of that day, few positives I took out is what I learned about the exam and something, according to me, everyone should be aware of.

Quant:

I have read several reports and debriefs which stated that quant was tougher than OG13 and Prep. Really didn't think that was the case. I hit max difficulty level (and by that, I mean the time taken to solve it) around Q10. If you are comfortable with OG problems at the end, you should be able to do well in the GMAT and score around 49 atleast. As far as the adaptive nature is concerned, it's best if you stop wondering about the difficulty level of the Q in front of you. This has already been told a million times but I reiterate, it's a colossal waste of your mental energy and time that you put into the type of questions you are facing. DON'T do it. Problems did go into deeper concepts in Geometry, inequalities, modulus etc.


Verbal:

This is the prime reason I am writing this post. I found the verbal in the exam definitely a notch higher than all CAT exams.

CR - Found a bunch of Assumption and Draw a conclusion/inference questions and all the arguments were tricky with multiple and subtle loopholes.

RC - Trend has definitely changed. 4 RC sureshot or maybe 5 if you are lucky/unlucky. Only change is the essays are short but the answers are getting much tougher to pick. Considering you are looking at a literature essay after nearly 3.5 hr of exam, these mighty close options don't help. Essays smaller but definitely denser.

SC - This is what surprised me the most. SC was my strong point (I have a 90% accuracy in all of my CAT's and also in OG13). But these questions were definitely smarter and not really as easy as picking a split and deciding between two phrases. Much more emphasis on meaning and most of the questions were definitely a notch tougher than OG.


Read a few posts here from Veritas and some other tutors that official exam verbal is growing in difficulty a bit and I tend to concur. This is not to scare any of you but wanted others to get a first hand impression as I did so that you can tune your prep accordingly.


Last but not the least, would be of GREAT help if you guys could advise me on the retake. I am having doubts about the time frame needed to book the date. Ideally, would want to take it again in second week of October but wondering if it is too soon. Aiming for Round 2 in Jan. Any thoughts on this?


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Great thread, bb! +1


"The GMAT provides an indicator of potential for academic success. The GMAT is one of many factors — including recommendations, essays, undergraduate GPA, etc. —that we will consider when reviewing an application." - Christina Mabley, the Director of MBA Admissions at McCombs School of Business

"NYU Stern's admissions process is holistic, so we are evaluating every aspect of an applicant to assess potential for success. We look for three major criteria: 1) academic ability 2) professional potential and 3) personal characteristics, as well as "fit" with our program. The GMAT is just one component that we evaluate to assess academic potential." - Isser Gallogly, the Executive Director of MBA Admissions at NYU Stern School of Business

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Hi,

i scored 650 on my first attempt and i asked to some of top schools if the grade is ok. Some schools answered that it was a good grade and i don't need to retake the exam.

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Here's a breakdown:

GMAT 1--

Preparation lasted ~ 5 months..I was always decent at quant and from the start, was scoring 49-50 in Q on mocks but speed & letting go of questions remained an issue. Bunuel on GMATClub is great-- solve all his questions.. In Verbal, I was not aware of rules or logic..just practiced alot of questions-- lacked in speed and got stuck often. The first GMAT experience was nerve wracking-- primary focus was somehow to complete the test; wasn't sure of many answers esp. in Verbal esp. SC. Couldn't attempt the last 3-4 questions properly in both Quant and Verbal. The screen flashed a 650-- gutted;

GMAT 2--

Took a 2 months break but the GMAT score kept bothering me..knew that I will retake it. Couldn't start on my own so decided to enroll for classroom learning-- Joined Princeton Review Classes; Preparation~ 6 months. The faculty was great at PR, Delhi esp. the Verbal faculty; SC became my strong point and I achieved a 80-85% accuracy, CR improved marginally 70-80% accuracy however, RCs remained a problem- 55-65% accuracy and my timing was totally off; In hindsight, I might have over focused on the 1st 10 questions and ended up short of time.

Quant was the same even though I felt I had managed time better; Verbal- felt like I was doing pretty well and even started thinking of 40+ but kept getting behind on time which really messed up the last 10..submit- 690-

Low point in life. I have always been over-persistent with a cling on attitude and it is extremely difficult for me to let go of things. Started wondering whether the GMAC & the powers that be are conspiring against me and whether the GMAT is not for ppl lyk me..self doubt, inner demons, even the L word marked my thinking..was the accuracy reqd much higher than what I thought.. I deserved better maybe. My mocks seemed to suggest so..

GMAT 3--

Something within me jus kept me going..I couldn't stop now..690 thats not bad ppl said-- which made me feel worse..I shut myself down-- devised a study plan-- I knew it had to be Verbal which was setting me back..Quant had never been the issue even though I couldn't cross 49 both times..I decided to focus on the core issue -- VERBAL and I quit smoking..

Enrolled for e-GMAT- its different from most other courses-- inspite of the initial glitches, moved ahead with my prep..yes-- there is indeed a method to teaching CR & RC as demonstrated by e-GMAT--here are the main takeaways from the e-GMAT course--

-- SC- focus on the original sentence and error analysis. POE comes later and if the intended meaning is clear, u can breeze through this step.

-- CR- Pre- thinking helps u to structure the argument in your head; so that even if u can't guess correctly; u can identify the correct option during POE better

-- RC- Logical Structure, passage summaries and keywords help u understand the passage in the 1st go.

-- Last but not the least-- following the process for each and every question every single time; once ur done with the process- u move on, u save time

And never get bogged down-- I got a 50% on the e-GMAT Mini Test..e-GMAT workshops are great for practice and the analysis is unparalleled..

2 days before MGMAT repeat test - scored 770 and more importantly, could complete both sections well in time..Practice a variety of tests - U must try all the free sources including Veritas, Grockit, MGMAT, Edvento to name a few apart from the regular test series u take..monitor ur results n do in depth analysis and corrections on the same day.

Contrary to popular belief, took a paper on the day before the GMAT (had taken 2 papers the day before- 1 complete and 1 Quant); Wanted to be in qa mode and in rythm unlike previous 2 exams where I lazed around the day before the GMAT which made me even more nervous..I do recommend some light exercise a day before the GMAT as it helps get rid of the nervous energy -- did help me..just do everything u need to focus..

If Andy Murray could do it, .....decided to drive myself to the centre this time-- Quant was a breeze- kept monitoring time-- last question was super tough-- some weird series - could not make head or tail out of it..was unsure of only a few questions. Had Gatorade+ Crackle instead of Red Bull + Snickers this time-- more of a superstition thing..Verbal- in the break time I thought- these next few moments might well define what I end up doing with my life-- no stress- started off with 3 SCs n everything started falling in place-- couldn't have been more sure about the answers-- most of them-- I daresay if I could have completed the last 2-3 questions on Verbal, my score might have been even higher !! I would still take it...any day..!! New challenges beckon..

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