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Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies

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28 Nov 2009, 23:02
oskarmellow wrote:
Hi all,

I took the gmat today and scored 720 (51Q 35V)
Of course, I was happy with the Q score, but the V score just made me want to cry.
I took all the manhattan prep practices and had these 6 scores for verbal, 34, 36, 40, 40, 45
I just can't understand why I did so badly. To insult my own injury, I actually felt good about my answers.

In any case, my current problem is as follows. I have about a month till the R2 deadlines. I'm applying to HBS, MIT, Stanford, Chicago, and Northwestern. My undergrad gpa was 3.4, master's gpa 3.3, and my phd (which i didn't complete) 3.8. I have roughly 6 years of work experience and no significant extracurriculars that are current. Oh and I'll be 33 at matriculation. I keep hearing that age doesn't matter, but looking at the age ranges and the averages, it looks like I'm slightly outside the SD.

I need to do my essays now, but I'm also thinking perhaps I should retake the GMAT at the end of this month. Honestly, I went through hell pulling my verbal score up to 45, and then today I made my second trip there seeing all the fruits of my studying spiral down the toilet.

From a practical point of view, I'm thinking that 720 is good enough (as long as they don't peak at the V score). I also think that the make-it or break-it hinges on my essays. But, this little voice inside of me, coupled with all the ding/admit profiles makes me wonder if that damn 35 V is going to break me.

Anyone care to comment or are in similar positions?

Unless you are getting MBA in Philosophy, your Q51 should more than cover your V35.
Pathfinder (currently in Wharton) got 720 (from-720-to-70639.html), though his split was slightly different and is happy where he is. He spent 4 more months studying and got 690....

Would suggest you focus on Essays instead. If you are still concerned, comb though these threads to see how you stack up: 2009-profiles-w-admit-dings-results-no-discussion-62945.html and 2009-acceptances-rejections-by-school-post-results-here-73302.html
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03 Dec 2009, 15:38
Hello, this is my first post. I'm glad I found GMAT Club!! Next year I'm planning to apply to a distance learning MSc, I already have a MBA good enough for my region. 3 years ago I took the GMAT and obtained a 640 score (45 q, 32 v).

I will take the GMAT for fun. I also try to get 700+ score to apply to a scholarship, but I'm doing the test mostly for fun.

Do you think I need to study like a newbie because a took the test 3 years ago?

Sorry I think this post is a little wordy.
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03 Dec 2009, 17:11
jasolorzanor wrote:
Hello, this is my first post. I'm glad I found GMAT Club!! Next year I'm planning to apply to a distance learning MSc, I already have a MBA good enough for my region. 3 years ago I took the GMAT and obtained a 640 score (45 q, 32 v).

I will take the GMAT for fun. I also try to get 700+ score to apply to a scholarship, but I'm doing the test mostly for fun.

Do you think I need to study like a newbie because a took the test 3 years ago?

Sorry I think this post is a little wordy.

Not technically a re-take (3 years is a long time). I would take a GMAT Prep (download gmatprep) and see how well you do. Then we can talk
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23 Dec 2009, 16:22
I started studying for the GMAT in March '09. My math was very rusty and I reviewed basic concepts with a private tutor. I was scoring around 650 on GMATprep, but when I took the GMAT for the first time in May '09 I scored 610, Q35 (42%), V40 (89%), AWA 6.0
I believe the nerves got the best of me.

I started preparing again in October. Verbal was not a concern. Even though I am not a native English speaker, I have good language intuition and I knew I will score high if I keep reading the Economist

I had to tackle two issues. One was reviewing all concepts again and filling in all the gaps - understanding stuff that simpler problems do not cover, or cover insufficiently. This forum was extremely helpful. I learnt a lot of new concepts that are missing in OG11 (my main textbook till I found GMAT Club). I found that the more difficult problems I did, the better I was doing with timing on simpler problems.

Timing was my second issue. I get nervous when I am pressed for time, and I knew I had to practice a lot on developing clear, consistent thinking under pressure. Data sufficiency problems are a big challenge for me under these circumstances - when I am nervous I loose the thread.

I did lots of problems, took about 15 different trial tests, and was scoring up to Q44 (on Manhattan and 800score) when I was relaxed and confident, and consistently above Q35 when I was more nervous or in an unfamiliar environment.

I took the GMAT for the second time today and scored 660, Q36 (45%), V44 (97%).
I was nervous again! To a point where I almost self-sabotaged myself and started thinking how I would score below my first result.

Now, although I am please I improved my score by 50 points, I know I could have done better in math.

Does anyone have a solution for feeling stressed on the exam? Do you think I should retake the test? I am targeting Columbia, NYU, Oxford, Cambrdige, INSEAD. My bio, professional and international experience are all convincing, I am just wondering if they are convincing enough to offset a relatively low score.
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23 Dec 2009, 19:17
Hey Guys,

I got a 620 on the GMAT (v 83%, q 49%). I did a lot of studying (4+ months, 10+ hours a week) so I was very disappointed with my score.

I did the Kaplan program and my score didn't really go up much after the 3rd practice test (got 530 on diagnostic, then 570, then 620, then bounced around a bunch and went as low as 510 and as high as a 640).

Do you think there is much point in taking again? I feel pretty burnt out from studying, especially when my score didn't improve much considering the time I put in. Maybe I'm just stuck with a low score...

Based on your alls experience, do you see big score jumps on retakes, even after people have studied and taken their first test seriously? According to GMAC statistically people don't do much better on retakes, but I'm not sure if they have an angle.

Thanks!
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24 Jan 2010, 00:24
Hi,

Can anyone comment on my individual section split? Is Q50 V37 too disparate? My total GMAT score is 710, and I'm considering a retake. My two GMATPrep practice exams both resulted in a 750 (Q50, V41).

I'm planning on applying to several Top 10 schools including MIT, Columbia, NYU, Kellogg and Booth. Will the 710 hurt my chances of admission? Will a 750 make enough of a difference all else being the same?

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27 Mar 2010, 03:20
bb,

I took the GMAT on 24th of this month and scored 680 (M48, V34) . As, I am a entrepreneur—started my own consumer and economic research company, the company is in the top 30 in the said category in India in terms of the revenues—I was not able to concentrate much on GMAT preparation. What do you suggest should I again appear for GMAT with proper preparation? or will the ADCOM would take my job into consideration while looking at my GMAT score.

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08 May 2010, 00:06
Hi, I got 730 (M:49/V:41), but the score of AWA is only 3.5. May I just use this GMAT score to do the application? Thanks.
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08 May 2010, 21:01
yaozo wrote:
Hi, I got 730 (M:49/V:41), but the score of AWA is only 3.5. May I just use this GMAT score to do the application? Thanks.

Congratulations - that's a strong score.
I would not retake it. Were you essays that bad to get 3.5? Keep in mind that adcom will see them when they get the score reports, so when you submit your essays they will definitely compare the two and if your essays are stellar, you may need to do some explaining.
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09 May 2010, 07:36
Thanks for the reply, bb. Before the GMAT test, I didn't practice AWA, but spent most of time on the Verbal and only read some essay samples. So that I didn't control the time and develop my opinion very well during the AWA test section. I thought that I would get 4. Need I rescore it? I'm an applicant from China and will take TOEFL soon. If I can get a good score of TOEFL writing, will it make up for my bad GMAT AWA score? I will spend more time on practicing TOEFL writing this time. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks for the advice, bb!
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09 May 2010, 08:45
yaozo wrote:
Thanks for the reply, bb. Before the GMAT test, I didn't practice AWA, but spent most of time on the Verbal and only read some essay samples. So that I didn't control the time and develop my opinion very well during the AWA test section. I thought that I would get 4. Need I rescore it? I'm an applicant from China and will take TOEFL soon. If I can get a good score of TOEFL writing, will it make up for my bad GMAT AWA score? I will spend more time on practicing TOEFL writing this time. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks for the advice, bb!

Don't worry about retaking (to be certain I would also recommend you get a second opinion in the profile evaluation area from the admissions consultants); I think TOEFL will fix it but doublecheck.
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10 May 2010, 13:21
Ok.. guys... just wrote my first GMAT exam today and I am very disappointed. Score a 650 (Q 44, V 35) when I was really seeking a 700+. Wanted to know if someone has joined Knewton's 50+ program and in your opinion does it make sense to join Knewton?

Also, what are the admission chances @ Darden School of Business with this score? I live in VA and I guess Darden has a pretty strong reputation... atleast in this area.

Need some guidance. Should I appear for the GMAT again or go with this score and apply. I am aiming for the T-10.
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10 May 2010, 15:44
sunnyrollen wrote:
Ok.. guys... just wrote my first GMAT exam today and I am very disappointed. Score a 650 (Q 44, V 35) when I was really seeking a 700+. Wanted to know if someone has joined Knewton's 50+ program and in your opinion does it make sense to join Knewton?

Also, what are the admission chances @ Darden School of Business with this score? I live in VA and I guess Darden has a pretty strong reputation... atleast in this area.

Need some guidance. Should I appear for the GMAT again or go with this score and apply. I am aiming for the T-10.

See these two posts as well as the darden dedicated thread in the bschool forum - that's your best source to get the info at this time:
2009-acceptances-rejections-by-school-post-results-here-73302.html
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27 May 2010, 08:01
Hi everyone, this is my first gmatclub post. I have been a frequent reader of the US MBA program posts, but have not yet contributed. If I don't post properly according to GC protocols, I apologize in advance.

I have a question about whether I should retake the GMAT. I'm currently admitted to Darden and Ross for the class of 2012, but I'm waitlisted at Chicago Booth, which is my top choice. I applied with a 690. 45Q(75%) 39V(87%). My UG GPA was a 3.3. Both stats are lower than Booth's profile of 3.5 and 714.

I last took the test in November 2008 and I took a Kaplan course and did private tutoring with my teacher after the course was over to get my score up. Before the 690, I had a rough performance in July of 2008 with a 560. It was due to test anxiety, which got the better of me and I guessed on several questions at the end of each section.

Given that it has been a year and a half since I've studied/taken a test, would I be foolish to think I could retake the GMAT within a month's time and get a 700+ score? Besides the possibility of increasing my chances of moving off the waitlist, I've been told that the top management consulting firms want students with 700+ scores.

I would basically wait to submit my scores until I saw the results. If I scored badly, I wouldn't submit the new score to Chicago, but if I scored well, I would e-mail them with an update on my performance. Thoughts?
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27 May 2010, 09:20
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Hi everyone, this is my first gmatclub post. I have been a frequent reader of the US MBA program posts, but have not yet contributed. If I don't post properly according to GC protocols, I apologize in advance.

I have a question about whether I should retake the GMAT. I'm currently admitted to Darden and Ross for the class of 2012, but I'm waitlisted at Chicago Booth, which is my top choice. I applied with a 690. 45Q(75%) 39V(87%). My UG GPA was a 3.3. Both stats are lower than Booth's profile of 3.5 and 714.

I last took the test in November 2008 and I took a Kaplan course and did private tutoring with my teacher after the course was over to get my score up. Before the 690, I had a rough performance in July of 2008 with a 560. It was due to test anxiety, which got the better of me and I guessed on several questions at the end of each section.

Given that it has been a year and a half since I've studied/taken a test, would I be foolish to think I could retake the GMAT within a month's time and get a 700+ score? Besides the possibility of increasing my chances of moving off the waitlist, I've been told that the top management consulting firms want students with 700+ scores.

I would basically wait to submit my scores until I saw the results. If I scored badly, I wouldn't submit the new score to Chicago, but if I scored well, I would e-mail them with an update on my performance. Thoughts?

Would booth accept a revised score?
I know many schools will not take an updated score - please check to be certain.

P.S. Congratulations on other admits by the way; those are great schools as well.

My guess would be - maybe. I have seen people go up and down; hard to tell. If you have 3 hrs/day to go through a set of 8 MGMAT books in a month, then a much stronger maybe.
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06 Jun 2010, 09:09
Hi,
I took my GMAT in Dec '09.
My GMAT score is 660 (QA 49, VA 31)
Had got 720,730,740(repeat) in my GMATPrep,
600,670 in Kaplan (older ones),
690,630,690,710,740,690 in Manhattan's MGMAT.
I am looking at applying to Duke, Darden, Haas for 2011. Also NUS in Singapore.
Indian IT Male working in IT dept. of an Investment Bank.
I have 3 yrs wrk ex currently. Also cleared CFA Level 1 exam in Jun '09.
Do you guys suggest me taking a retake considering my schools and my profile??
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02 Jul 2010, 10:48
I'm retaking soon and I've sent the scores to the five schools I'm considering. Question is for the retake, do I have to select those schools again in order for them to get the retake score or since the reports reflect all the tests taken for the last five years, can one assume that GMAC would update those schools selected on the first take of my retake score?
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02 Jul 2010, 10:50
RGM wrote:
I'm retaking soon and I've sent the scores to the five schools I'm considering. Question is for the retake, do I have to select those schools again in order for them to get the retake score or since the reports reflect all the tests taken for the last five years, can one assume that GMAC would update those schools selected on the first take of my retake score?

You must select the schools again; the scores will not be updated automatically (updating scores without your permission violates your privacy and also prevents GMAC from making extra \$\$\$ from additional score reports )
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13 Jul 2010, 07:34
Hi,

I am taking GMAT on 2nd august 2010.However,with only 2 years of work ex, I see little chances of getting into a good B school.Also, I want to take a risk by leaving my present job and taking a chance at entrepreneurship by starting a business. I want to give this adventure 1 or 2 years time. If I succeed, nothing better but if suppose the startup does not clicks, I'll go for MBA and apply to B-schools with my 2010 GMAT score that I would take now. With 2 yrs of entrepreneurial work ex added to my 2 yrs of job work ex, chances of acceptance would also improve. My question is that in this case, would a 2 yrs old GMAT score be given equal wieghtage as a fresh GMAT score? Or do the colleges prefer a recent score over a 2 yrs old score?
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26 Aug 2010, 14:02
I have a question about retaking/score reports. I took my test 3 years ago and got a 690. I was happy with it so I didn't retake, but now all the GMAT averages have continually gone up so I might retake it. So far on my practices though, I'm not doing any better so I don't want to do worse as others have mentioned as well. If I send schools my score report now, before retaking, would they see if I have another test date scheduled? I'm thinking of being a little sneaky and sending my score report now, and then retaking and if I do better then I would obviously send another score report. I just don't want to do worse than I did 3 years ago.
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