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Dear Friends ,

I gave my first GMAT exam on 23rd Dec 2015 , & my score is 740 (Q-50/V-39).
But My AWA & IR scores are very poor , 4 & 3 respectively. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Should i retake the exam..??

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Hey Everyone,

So I took the GMAT on Friday and came back with a 42 Quant (50%) and 42 Verbal (96%) for a combined 690 (86%). While this is an overall good score, I was hoping to break 700 and had taken a GMATPrep test the week before that put me at 47Q/40V and a 710. While I obviously under performed on Quant, I also scored higher than any practice test I ever did on Verbal. What I am wondering is how important is it for adcoms to see similar percentiles for each category? I am planning on applying to some top 10-15 schools and I'm worried that the combo of right below average with a low Quant score will automatically eliminate me before they get the chance to look at my actual application/work experience which I think will be my strongest part. That being said - I am also concerned about retaking the GMAT and possibly getting a lower score. This was my second time taking the GMAT in 20 days - first time I kinda freaked out on the pacing and got a 37/38 which I promptly canceled.

For background, I am not a strong math student but I do have two A's in college level Calc and Stats. Also, I am 24 - 3 years of work experience in product management and product marketing for 2 of the large SaaS companies - specifically in MarTech. Reason why I mention is that my role is a little more technical so I'm not sure if that helps will reassure adcoms that I can handle the rigor of MBA quant related classes

Any advice would be helpful.

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Great thread as always! Appreciate

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ANY ADVICE APPRECIATED!

-I took the GMAT blindly in 2013 and got a - 550

I took the GMAT two more times in 2015 and got a 500 and a 610 respectively. I applied to a handful of programs MBA programs and the MPA program at Columbia. I was accepted at Columbia, but turned it down to try for the MBA. My alma mater, Georgia Tech also denied me due to my GMAT score despite being the President of the Undergraduate Business Ambassadors at Scheller during my tenure and having a decent 3+ GPA.

I'm currently waitlisted at a top 20 program and was asked about a GMAT re-take. I prepped for 3 months with a Kaplan course and by studying at least 1 hour every week night and taking a practice test every weekend. My CATs were averaging about 680-690 by the time it was time for my exam yesterday, and to my horror and disbelief, and that of my tutor as well, I scored a 600. 39 Verbal and 35 Quant. Should I try and take the test again? I don't want to try 5 times and still fail, because I feel so defeated by this test.

I have a strong professional background. I worked in consulting after graduation and now work for a major tech company.

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You should definitely go thorugh the Kaplan class books again if you can - you will pick something new.

MGMAT SC is good. You can get either MGMAT SC or PowerScore SC - but don't get both as they are pretty much the same. Your SC should improve - make sure you don't move on until you understood each section fully and if you have to - reread 2 or 3 times.

You have probably seen this thread but just in case, gmat-study-plan-go-from-650-to-80235.html here is a 1-2 month study plan for how to get over the 700 hump - any feedback how to improve it is welcome.

For math, not really many recommendations. You will always see some unusual questions on the GMAT - the whole concept of it, so don't get alarmed too much. Just know arithmetic and how to solve word problems and basic combinations/probability.

What is V&M official books?


I want to practice questions on quant but coundn't find a good resource just like OG has around 250. Do you know a good source to practice questions (just sit one day open the link and start solving questions). I know the database of Gmatclub is huge as well but here the questions are divided by topics. Do you have something where there all all questions.

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You should definitely go thorugh the Kaplan class books again if you can - you will pick something new.

MGMAT SC is good. You can get either MGMAT SC or PowerScore SC - but don't get both as they are pretty much the same. Your SC should improve - make sure you don't move on until you understood each section fully and if you have to - reread 2 or 3 times.

You have probably seen this thread but just in case, gmat-study-plan-go-from-650-to-80235.html here is a 1-2 month study plan for how to get over the 700 hump - any feedback how to improve it is welcome.

For math, not really many recommendations. You will always see some unusual questions on the GMAT - the whole concept of it, so don't get alarmed too much. Just know arithmetic and how to solve word problems and basic combinations/probability.

What is V&M official books?


I want to practice questions on quant but coundn't find a good resource just like OG has around 250. Do you know a good source to practice questions (just sit one day open the link and start solving questions). I know the database of Gmatclub is huge as well but here the questions are divided by topics. Do you have something where there are just questions.

Please help

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Hi Everyone,
I took the GMAT a couple of days ago and was happy with my score but unhappy with the split. Here is the breakdown:
GMAT Prep 1: 690 - Q47, V38
GMAT Prep 2: 710 - Q48, V38
GMAT: 720 - Q46, V42

Obviously I am happy with the Verbal score and I knew that was where I could make my improvement, but I feel the Q46 is a poor indicator of my quantitative ability (I have an undergrad in Math!). I still have time to write another exam, but I could also give it a go with this 720. It seems a lot of people on here are split about whether or not its worth it to retake - but I just don't want this to be the reason I'm not a sought after candidate. Thanks for your input - this forum and the people on here have been terrific!!

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Hi - I just gave my GMAT and got a 730 (96 percentile) - Quant 47 (67 Percentile) and Verbal 42 (96 percentile). Is my quant too low for Top 10 business schools? Should I give it again. Kindly advise. Thank you so much!

Oh and IR was 7 (81 Percentile) - Can that compensate for the quant score?

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Everything you wanted to know about retaking GMAT. Not Happy with your GMAT Score? Not sure if it is good enough?
Retaking GMAT can be tough and often leads to a lower score - make sure it is worth the time and effort.

Nobody is ever happy with their GMAT score, but many agree that between 680 and 700 is good enough to get into any MBA program without second thoughts. What many of the applicants do is focus too much on quantifiable factors such as GMAT. Simply because you have 750 and another person has 700, does not mean your chances are much better. GMAT score is only a part of your application package and many 750+ applicants learned it the hard way. For Top 10 schools, GMAT is often only a check-mark. Thus, always determine the best ROI for your time and value that higher GMAT score will add to your application before deciding on retake. Often retake is not the right strategy. As an illustration, See Tarmac's post here for 8 dings with 770. Also see the "retake frustration stories" below for applicants whose scores went down after a retake.

At the same time, per GMAC Research (see attach below), retaking often brings value. On average, a person can gain 30 points by retaking. This could be explained by being more comfortable with the environment, knowing what to expect, and having a better stamina and time management. Also third and fourth, fifth, sixth attemps have paid off for a number of folks.

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Situations when you probably SHOULD retake:
  • The difference of your GMAT and GMAT Prep (undiluted) score is 50 points or greater.
  • The difference between estimated GMAT Score and GMAT is greater than 50 points. (GMAT Score Estimator/Calculator)
  • Your target school's average score is 50 points higher (check scores here...)
  • You have used second rate prep materials (See a list of recommended books here)
  • You have a significant score imbalance. For example Q50, V25, resulting in 640
  • One of the admissions consultants from Profile Review forum recommended you retake
  • You are shooting for a scholarship (several schools award scholarships partially based on GMAT scores)
  • You have an extra 1-2 months and the best use of that time to improve your admissions chances is not writing essays/applications but studying for GMAT 3 hours/day
  • Score Imbalance: You have a have a relatively high GMAT score, but your Verbal score is significantly lower than your Quant score--common with engineers and Indian IT types. (See student who got waitlisted at 690 but got in 3 weeks later with a 760.)
  • Indian IT male - this is a very competitive segment and if you are not able to differentiate yourself in any way, get as high GMAT as you can.



Situations when you probably SHOULD NOT retake:
  • You are within 50 points of the school's average GMAT score (in this case time is best spent on applications unless you have a bit of time and 30 points is a worthy increase). See School's Average and Range GMAT Scores
  • You have exhausted all of the prep materials and resources
  • You are short on time (rather spend it on applications than GMAT. Most top 10-20 schoosl do not put a significant weight on GMAT score - we have plenty of 770 applicants with rejections
  • Already have a 700+ score



Recommendations and Resourcs for GMAT Retake:
  • Get a schedule on a calendar and write out what you are planning to do and when. Set goals and achieve them! See this post for a sample of a calendar.
  • One of the keys to a successful retake is to regain your test confidence - don't try to tackle the hardest hurdle first, focus on small victories to help motivate you to climb higher hills. Rome was not built in one day. Small victories will win the war. Thus, even though you have 45 Quant and 28 Verbal, it may be a better idea to get your Quant to 48 or 49 (and get your confidence back) before tackling the harder verbal questions.
  • However, remember that ultimately, you only have so much time and you should identify areas that will give you the highest ROI.
  • Find the best study pattern for you. If you are a single tasker - focus on quant/verbal first for the first few weeks. Then, put your attention on the other area and do a deep dive. Consider joining a study group here on GMAT Club. Some thrive in collective environment.
  • Do not move on until you feel comfortable with the section and you feel you understand the entire section in your book
  • Try following 1-2 month Study plan for retakers (how to go from 650 to 700+)
  • Sign up for a GMAT Prep course that has a money-back guarantee such as Knewton and Magoosh which offer 50-point improvement or money back. (you are not losing anything except your time)
  • Make sure you have thoroughly covered your existing books
  • Books - Make sure you are using best and most effective books for your prep (gmat books, math books, verbal books)
  • Dedicate a larger portion of your day/life to methodically covering GMAT math and GMAT verbal
  • Get a better lifestyle - sleep more, party less, exercise - give it a shot for a month
  • Start reading more (books, magazines, etc - it helps a lot with RC and SC - see my post on GMAT Fiction)
  • Start using Error Log - one of the easiest ways to get your score up is to use an error log and then focus on your weaknesses
  • Try "teaching" others on the forum pages and learn more than you would ever have
  • Explore success threads below and see what helped others


FAQ
How often can I retake the GMAT? (every 31 days)
750 on the GMAT but low Quant - should I retake?
How many times should one take the GMAT - any negative consequences of retaking?
What do Business Schools think of multiple GMAT scores?


GMAT retake success stories
From 700 to 770 by Avernusaur
From 570 to 760 by Hemantsood
3rd Attempt: increased verbal from 26 to 37 by marclopato
From 640 to 770 by Billyjeans
From 620 to 710 by quantjock
From 730 to 780 by Pelihu
From 580 to 730 by Yungsta
4th attempt - 690
From 640 to 720 with only confidence by logmeup
From 570 to 600 to 670 to 720 - a long way to 700's
From 420 to 700 by Positive Soul
From 680 to 740
500 to 640 in 1 Month
From 580 to 730 with PR materials
490 to 670 with a few tweaks
710 to 770 and lessons learned (another one of those :wink: )
Get second thoughts out of your head for $250 or going from 710 to 740
From 660 to 740
690 --> 720 in 6 weeks
640 to 700 in 2 months
Long journey from 570 to 730
560 to 710 in 2 months
730 to 760


GMAT retake "disaster" stories
Bitten Twice
From 580 to 540 by JohnLewis
From 720 to 690 by Pathfinder - currently attending Wharton
From 560 to 510 by Mediamindy
From 610 to 570 after 3 months of studying
680 to 620 by Noboru
740 to 710 by MCM
6 months to go from 690 to 690

Reference:
Should I retake GMAT by Hjort
Got 590 and done with GMAT (Applying to Top 10)

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Great Article BB! To testify what you are saying my GMAT score was 720 and I still managed full scholarship at a top 20 school. A lot of people were surprised as my GMAT score was not very high and everyone presumes that GMAT score is a make or a break component for an admit. In my experience, my pre-MBA experience, previous educational qualification and overall alignment of my future goals with the school played an important role.

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This could be a lame question. But am gonna ask it anyways!

I took my GMAT once and got 710 (IR 8, Q48, V40). I am planning to write it again. My question is, if i choose a different set of schools to receive my score(in my second attempt), what happens to the schools that i had selected in my first attempt? Will they receive only the first exam scores or will the second exam score be refreshed in their view as well? (in essence, if i choose a different set of schools in my second attempt, will all 10 schools get to see both my scores?)

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New post 19 May 2016, 15:44
Just gave my GMAT and got a score of 680 (Q49, V33). I am actually pretty shocked at my verbal score. I had not scored lower than 39 in any of my GMATPrep.

710 (Q49, V39) April 15th
730 (Q50, V40) April 30th
740 (Q50, V42) May 5th
750 (Q50, V44) May 12th ( Full 4 sections )
760 (Q50 , V45) May 18th (the day before). ( Full 4 sections)

I can’t believe my verbal score. I have asked for an ESR but I don’t think that will help much. One thing that did happen during my GMAT was that during my Quant section, I started getting easier questions towards the end, (One question was surely a 500 level question), and I assumed that I have bombed my Quant. While I reassured myself not to panic and stay calm in verbal, I think that somehow this had a huge impact on my Verbal. As I was going through the verbal questions though, I did not see a particularly easy question and I am just shocked at the score. Even if I had done worse than my GMATPrep I would have received a score of around V37-38. But 33!! I obviously would have bombed the first few questions. None of my verbal exams have been this low including my MGMAT exams.

Needless to say I will be giving the GMAT again in 2 weeks, but I am really shocked! I choose not to cancel my score, but I am considering it now, because C is not reported and I am sure I can get more than 720. Any suggestions?

I am planning to cancel my scores, as I am targeting the top 10 and I know that the verbal I have is just too low for me to feel good!

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First sitting was 690 Q40 V44.

This time around I walked out with a 670 Q46 V36. I little disappointed, but was happy about my improvement in quant.

Questions:I did not cancel my score (due to the increase in Quant). Should I cancel my score? How will an adcom view a decrease in GMAT from attempt 1 to attempt 2? Will it matter at all? Will they be able to see the improvement in Quant? If/when they see my scores, they will see both my 690 V44 and 670 Q46?

Thoughts: I will re-take the exam hoping to put together my best Q and V from past performances. Is this the right move?

Will I be ok applying to top 15 w current scores?

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I took two months to prepare for GMAT, I think I did the most I could do in 2 months and I scored 700. Now I realize it might be way to low for top schools, but retaking GMAT just puts me down psychologically. DO you think I should take another 2-3 months to prepare and try again? Here is what I did in two months of preparation - https://youtu.be/MNxXEyYYTTc

I decided to record everything as it's a long story with a lot of tips :)

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I took GMAT this week and got 700 (Q50 V 34), AWA 5 and a dismal IR 2. Should I consider retaking GMAT just because I have got a poor IR score???

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I retook my GMAT today and got a score of 740 (Q49, V41, IR7). Really happy. I took the last exam a month back and got a 680 (Q49, V33, IR6). The experience of the first exam really helped me in the second. I will write a detailed experience soon.

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I took two months to prepare for GMAT, I think I did the most I could do in 2 months and I scored 700. Now I realize it might be way to low for top schools, but retaking GMAT just puts me down psychologically. DO you think I should take another 2-3 months to prepare and try again? Here is what I did in two months of preparation - https://youtu.be/MNxXEyYYTTc

I decided to record everything as it's a long story with a lot of tips :)


I was in a similar boat and got 700 but it was summer in Europe so I decided to just apply with the 700. Mind you it was my second time though and I couldn't sit through it again! I think it depends 1) if you were getting really different scores in the practice tests and 2) the rest of your profile (if you have a weak GPA etc)


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Thanks BB for the excellent post!

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Thanks BB for the very informative post. Gave my GMAT exam yesterday ( 720 Q50 V37). I was hoping for 740. One day before exam got severe fever and cold, was on antibiotics whole time and felt difficult to concentrate. But I think I could not have scored more than 740 either way, so no point in retaking. Now need to work hard on my application, as I come from the infamous "India IT male" category.
Thanks a lot GMAT club for helping me achieve 700+ score. :)

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Hello, took the GMAT today and got 690 (86th percentile); Q 44 (54th percentile); V 40 (91st percentile); IR 8 (92nd percentile); AWA awaiting score. I'm concerned about my low Quant score. I had a 3.2 at the University of Virginia but a 2.7 in quantitative-like courses. I graduated with a degree in economics and am now an Infantry Officer in the US Army. I'm hoping that my leadership experience both at UVA and in the Army will greatly improve my chances of getting into a top 15 school. Will business schools think I cannot handle the math with such low quant scores? Should I retake the test if I am looking to apply to schools this fall?

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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Hello, took the GMAT today and got 690 (86th percentile); Q 44 (54th percentile); V 40 (91st percentile); IR 8 (92nd percentile); AWA awaiting score. I'm concerned about my low Quant score. I had a 3.2 at the University of Virginia but a 2.7 in quantitative-like courses. I graduated with a degree in economics and am now an Infantry Officer in the US Army. I'm hoping that my leadership experience both at UVA and in the Army will greatly improve my chances of getting into a top 15 school. Will business schools think I cannot handle the math with such low quant scores? Should I retake the test if I am looking to apply to schools this fall?

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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