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08 Oct 2010, 07:50
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Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise, the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.

a. Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise,
Correct. Subjunctive usage is appropriate here.

b. If present metal prices are continuing their sharp rise,
Verb-tense mismatch between "are continuing their sharp rise" and "will soon be greater than"

c. If present metal prices continue to sharply rise,
Subjunctive verb usage preferable
"sharply rise" is incorrect. "rise sharply" should be used instead.

d. Continuation of sharply rising metal prices should mean that
Awkward construction

e. Metal prices’ sharp rise continuing should mean that
Awkward construction

can you explain Subjuctive usage?

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08 Oct 2010, 13:05
I thought that subjunctive 'should' needed to be followed by 'that'?

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08 Oct 2010, 13:13
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in B and C, doesnt the presence of the word 'present' alter the meaning? ideally, should have been if metal prices continue to rise, [then] ....
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08 Oct 2010, 18:10
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I thought that subjunctive 'should' needed to be followed by 'that'?

eh, i don't think subjunctive is used in answer (a), in the case of a demand/request/recommendation [word] + that + subj + verb is when subjunctive is actually used.

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08 Oct 2010, 21:43
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I thought that subjunctive 'should' needed to be followed by 'that'?

eh, i don't think subjunctive is used in answer (a), in the case of a demand/request/recommendation [word] + that + subj + verb is when subjunctive is actually used.

There are two subunctives :-
1.Hypothetical Subjunctive
2.Command Subjunctive

Only command subjuntive requires "that" after the command word.
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09 Oct 2010, 01:05
inverted form of should is right.
C is out simply because sharply cannot come in between to rise! be sure

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09 Oct 2010, 07:35
Do we not use "Should" for a "moral obligation" and not for a "likelihood of an event"? In addition, I remember reading somewhere that "VERB-ing" (gerund) should be avoided as much as possible.

That leaves us only with option C.

I think C it is.
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Do we not use "Should" for a "moral obligation" and not for a "likelihood of an event"? In addition, I remember reading somewhere that "VERB-ing" (gerund) should be avoided as much as possible.

That leaves us only with option C.

I think C it is.

I fell for C too, but the guys mentioned "to sharply rise" is a split infinitive, frm what i recall in mgmat sc, that is a big no no... unless you can prove otherwise?

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14 Oct 2010, 20:01
even MGMAT book says split infinitive is wrong in GMAT world

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20 Oct 2010, 01:00
Thanks guys for the explaination. Now I understand why it is A and not C

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20 Oct 2010, 01:42
A as well, as it sounds natural. For C, "to sharply rise" sounds awkward although we may say that in daily conversation.

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12 Oct 2011, 11:37
Nice discussion about split infinitives. I chose A because I felt "to sharply rise" is wrong it should be "to rise sharply".
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12 Oct 2011, 19:28
Is A a "Hypothetical Subjunctive" construction?

If yes, shouldn't it be...
the value of the copper in a penny would [strike]will[/strike] soon be greater than the face value of the coin.

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13 Oct 2011, 05:33
Fell for C... The split infinitives was staring me in the face saa

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02 Nov 2011, 01:24
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Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise, the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.

(A) Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise,
(B) If present metal prices are continuing their sharp rise,
(C) If present metal prices continue to sharply rise,
(D) Continuation of sharply rising metal prices should mean that
(E) Metal prices’ sharp rise continuing should mean that

+1 for A. Progressive tense of B is awkward.

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11 Oct 2013, 05:58
Bumping this thread up for further discussions/reviews.
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12 Oct 2013, 01:51
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Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise, the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.

(A) Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise,
(B) If present metal prices are continuing their sharp rise,
(C) If present metal prices continue to sharply rise,
(D) Continuation of sharply rising metal prices should mean that
(E) Metal prices’ sharp rise continuing should mean that

Lets look at the choices.

D and E can be ruled out as there is change in the meaning and improper construction. Basically,the mess up the sentence itself

Normally in the if then construction, carefully observe the then construction tense as it is not underlined. It is simple future tense and thus only simple present tense or simple future tense can be used in the if construction.

B can ruled out because it uses present progressive tense

Now we are down to A and C.

C looks okay but it's the use of To verb which is a problem as to verb construction is generally use to show intent but as per the original sentence construction there is not a certainty and hence C cannot be used as the construction shows intent.

A has to be the answer

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13 Oct 2013, 23:26
I DIDNT UNDERSTAND ANY ONE PIONT, STILL I NEED MORE ELOBRATIONS THAT HOW THE SENTENCE WAS STRUCTURED

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Pl reffer OGs, GMAT does not prefer "should" in conditional clauses. Moreover should is for obligation and it can not be a replacement of conditions.

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26 Sep 2014, 06:48
"Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise.." Is it OK to use their for things (not humans)!!
Need advice on use of split infinitives.
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