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Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC

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New post 04 Feb 2011, 03:05
One more for E. Past perfect just doesn't make sense here.
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New post 25 Jul 2011, 21:31
feruz77 wrote:
Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC had reached
an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
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(A) had reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
(B) have reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(C) have reached an E-5 ranking in under three years
(D) had reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(E) have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years


so the discussion is not conlcusive

any thoughts why "less than three years" is incorrect as we can count years....... :? :?
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What is wrong with C? Cant we say under 3 years ?

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What is wrong with C? Cant we say under 3 years ?

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Dear binu
lets be pratical
we can say under the table (its concerned with the position of the object)


but we cant say under the year

can we???????????

but yes we can say within 3 years (provided the sentence makes sense)
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New post 26 Jul 2011, 19:53
I selected E but now confused. For justification we can said that action was completed before 1968 (1965+3 years) but want to learn concept.
I saw on website that since can be used with past perfect but I can not take that as base unless see at some standard source.
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yeh an expert's opinion and explanation will help.

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the same problem i voted for E because we need to use here present perfet instead of past perfect - the action started in the past and still going. Since help to indentified this.

left with B, C and E.

E is correct because it use correct word "fewer" because year are countable.

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When it reads clearly perfect, ignore the rules.. and that's how I got B. :)
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The answer has to be between B and C.

less is used for plural countable nouns if the nouns deal with time, money or distance. => less is preferred over few.

I agree with daagh that C looks elegant. If you think about the intent/meaning, C makes the most sense.

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Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC had reached
an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
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(A) had reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
(B) have reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(C) have reached an E-5 ranking in under three years
(D) had reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(E) have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years


It's a tough one.
I heard with "since" we should use present perfect, but I may be wrong.
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I am now leaning towards B...

I do believe that the OA is not A and present perfect should be used... but Less does work better than Fewer when it comes to time... I do remember reading that in MGMAT now...
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I am confuse how to realize the tense of this sentence, because i eliminate 'less' and 'under', remaining (A) and (E)
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we can count the number of years, so fewer is the choice. hence, b,c and d are out. Between A and E, i go for E. for the usage of 'Since' and 'have'. is the OA... correct

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Seem no one can explain this sentence. Very very tough one :<
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I prefer present perfect. E is my answer

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MGMAT SC says whenever you use since, use it with a present perfect not past perfect.

Quote from page 109: "If you use SINCE with a time phrase, such as 1987, use the present perfect.


you're correct. However, this sentence discusses the period from 1966-1969.

Present perfect can be used if it still continues. Therefore, B C and E are out.

Out of A and D. years are countable so we need fewer than not less than. Hence, A is the only correct option left.

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I prefer Present perfect..because "since 1966"
Also I could not see Two events (past perfect and Past tense ) In this sentence, Based on this, "Had reached.." eliminated.
If anyone disagrees,I am happy to see his or her explanations



I think its a late reply :P but still i will use this oppurtunity.

Since 1966.....to ..less than 3 years.. this mean untill 1969. Its a past. so past perfect , "had been" instead of "have been".

Also "fewer" than 3 years. since 1966 the next 3 years can be counted 1 by 1. Its countable. so fewer.

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I too marked B...but still the correct answer is not clear to me..could someone please tell what is the perfect OA here. ?
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the question totally dazzled me. i dont know why past perfect is used here. i prefer present perfect because of "since 1966" any better explanation guys?? what is the source of this question?
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feruz77 wrote:
Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC had reached
an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
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(A) had reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
(B) have reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(C) have reached an E-5 ranking in under three years
(D) had reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(E) have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years


so the discussion is not conlcusive

any thoughts why "less than three years" is incorrect as we can count years....... :? :?


We use 'less' for non-countable things. For example, "..less air". We wouldn't say "...fewer air"

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