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# Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC

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30 Sep 2011, 12:01
feruz77 wrote:
Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC had reached
an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
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(A) had reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
(B) have reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(C) have reached an E-5 ranking in under three years
(D) had reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(E) have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years

It's a tough one.
I heard with "since" we should use present perfect, but I may be wrong.
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I was going with E... but I still dont know what the correct answer is from the lack of explanations.
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01 Oct 2011, 10:31
I am now leaning towards B...

I do believe that the OA is not A and present perfect should be used... but Less does work better than Fewer when it comes to time... I do remember reading that in MGMAT now...
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Anyone with an explaination on this one?

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13 Nov 2011, 10:25
I am confuse how to realize the tense of this sentence, because i eliminate 'less' and 'under', remaining (A) and (E)
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Ok, I read the MGMAT SC again and think the B is the right choice. Wtf, yes choose 'fewer' rather than 'less' does not make sense in this case. The year in this case is unit noun of the uncountable noun time. So we cannot say fewer than time... We have to say less than time => less three year OR fewer than three year number (I do not find the other nouns rather than number to express the example as in the MGMAT SC)
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14 Nov 2011, 04:57
we can count the number of years, so fewer is the choice. hence, b,c and d are out. Between A and E, i go for E. for the usage of 'Since' and 'have'. is the OA... correct
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14 Nov 2011, 11:01
Seem no one can explain this sentence. Very very tough one :<
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15 Nov 2011, 09:06
I prefer present perfect. E is my answer
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15 Nov 2011, 11:02
milanproda wrote:
MGMAT SC says whenever you use since, use it with a present perfect not past perfect.

Quote from page 109: "If you use SINCE with a time phrase, such as 1987, use the present perfect.

you're correct. However, this sentence discusses the period from 1966-1969.

Present perfect can be used if it still continues. Therefore, B C and E are out.

Out of A and D. years are countable so we need fewer than not less than. Hence, A is the only correct option left.
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30 May 2012, 14:21
nageshshiv wrote:
I prefer Present perfect..because "since 1966"
Also I could not see Two events (past perfect and Past tense ) In this sentence, Based on this, "Had reached.." eliminated.
If anyone disagrees,I am happy to see his or her explanations

I think its a late reply but still i will use this oppurtunity.

Since 1966.....to ..less than 3 years.. this mean untill 1969. Its a past. so past perfect , "had been" instead of "have been".

Also "fewer" than 3 years. since 1966 the next 3 years can be counted 1 by 1. Its countable. so fewer.
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02 Jun 2012, 03:13
I too marked B...but still the correct answer is not clear to me..could someone please tell what is the perfect OA here. ?
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07 Jun 2012, 04:06
the question totally dazzled me. i dont know why past perfect is used here. i prefer present perfect because of "since 1966" any better explanation guys?? what is the source of this question?
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08 Jun 2012, 14:19
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feruz77 wrote:
Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC had reached
an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
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(A) had reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
(B) have reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(C) have reached an E-5 ranking in under three years
(D) had reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(E) have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years

so the discussion is not conlcusive

any thoughts why "less than three years" is incorrect as we can count years.......

We use 'less' for non-countable things. For example, "..less air". We wouldn't say "...fewer air"
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05 May 2013, 17:51
so what is the correct answer for this.
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18 Oct 2013, 11:25
Hey Guys, nice discussion around here. Is there any consensus as to what is the correct answer choice?
Manhattan GMAT experts, will you please provide some asistance

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07 Nov 2013, 19:51
Somebody should post an OA and an OE, especially on such questions so that further confusion can be avoided.
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07 Nov 2013, 23:54
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Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC had reached
an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
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(A) had reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
(B) have reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(C) have reached an E-5 ranking in under three years
(D) had reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(E) have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years

IMO, E is the right answer. "The present perfect tense here indicates either a continued action or a continued effort of a completed action to the present. With Since, use the Present perfect to indicate an action or effect that continues to the present time." - MGMAT - page 107.
Since the effect of reaching E-5 ranking in fewer than 3 years still continues in time, I think the answer should be "have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years-"
A,,D - out
B - out- as, when you compare two things, (here the time taken and 3 years, you need to use the Comparative form - hence, less is wrong. Out
C- out - because, "under" does not compare the time period.
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31 Jan 2014, 05:49
feruz77 wrote:
Since 1966, roughly 21 percent of those enlisted in the USMC had reached
an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
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(A) had reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years
(B) have reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(C) have reached an E-5 ranking in under three years
(D) had reached an E-5 ranking in less than three years
(E) have reached an E-5 ranking in fewer than three years

Two things here:

I'm going with have here ('Since' indicated we need present perfect verb form)

Second, fewer than three years or less than years?

Years are countable no? 1 year, 2 years etc....

So shouldn't it be fewer?

Im going with E here

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03 Feb 2014, 13:39
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When it reads clearly perfect, ignore the rules.. and that's how I got B.

That's not quite a GMAT way to look at it
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