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Since 1986 when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began paying their investment advisers a small basic fee, with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.

(A) investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began
(B) investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA

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10 Dec 2009, 02:08
I think D

B is not clear ("they")

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10 Dec 2009, 02:23
xcusemeplz2009 wrote:
Since 1986 when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began paying their investment advisers a small basic fee, with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.
(A) investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began
(B) investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began

Its B or D and Why?

"investment officers" manage not "performance of the funds" but "the funds" itself. Moreover in Choice B "they" has no referent
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10 Dec 2009, 15:24
B Vs D - D is the correct answer.

B:
investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage

In this case, "they" is referring to " investment officers' ", which is possesive noun that should have a posessive pronoun e.g their instead of they.
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15 Dec 2009, 15:11
xcusemeplz2009 wrote:
Since 1986 when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began paying their investment advisers a small basic fee, with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.
(A) investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began
(B) investment officers' fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began

Its B or D and Why?

My ans is D
- Since 1986.. , implies that the situation still continues now--> present perfect tense. Eliminate A,B, and E.
-"allow..to" is prefer. (than "allow that")--> Eliminate C

To specifically answer xcusemeplz2009 question, it is D not B because of the v.tense.
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15 Dec 2009, 23:48
Should be D. Mindful has explained well.
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Since 1986, when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers' fees to be based on how the
funds they manage perform, several corporations began
paying their investment advisers a small basic fee,
with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.
(A) investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations
began
(B) investment officers’ fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several
corporations began
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(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations
have begun
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several
corporations have begun
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several
corporations began
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12 Jan 2010, 10:04
jitendra wrote:
Since 1986, when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers' fees to be based on how the
funds they manage perform, several corporations began
paying their investment advisers a small basic fee,
with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.
(A) investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations
began - [totally awkward]
(B) investment officers’ fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several
corporations began
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(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations
have begun ["began to allow that" is not a good construct, another problem same as option A]
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several
corporations have begun - [inactive from active speech, tense issue]
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several
corporations began - [same as option C above]

Very good Question. Takes a moment to sink-in properly. My go for Option B only. what's the OA?
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IMO, D. It should be "Since.. have begun"
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14 Jan 2010, 11:59
Was confused between B and D, but picked D
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The correct answer is D. Whenever "since" is in a sentence this indicates the present perfect (has/have + participle) needs to be used. The action happened in the past and is continuing to happen.
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should be (D)

Since 1986, when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers' fees to be based on how the
funds they manage perform, several corporations began
paying their investment advisers a small basic fee,
with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.

(A) investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began - "they" has no referent

(B) investment officers’ fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began - "they" has no referent

(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations
have begun - very awkward

(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun

(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began - "they" has no referent
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Since 1986, when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers' fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began paying their investment advisers a small basic fee, with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.
(A) investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began
(B) investment officers’ fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began

Some thoughts:
1. Since + Time + Present perfect tense:
Since the sentence has begun with "since +time", we should be stick to the use of present perfect tense.
=> This eliminates A, B, and E.
2. "To allow X to do Y" is the correct idiom. So, the use of "to allow that X be y" is not not redundant but also unidiomatic.
=> This eliminates C.
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Since 1986 when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began paying their investment advisers a small basic fee, with a contract promising higher fees if the managers perform well.
(A) investment officers’ fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began
(B) investment officers’ fees to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
(C) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun.
(D) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations have begun
(E) that investment officers' fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began
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25 Jul 2010, 20:51
As per the question, it states the contrast between two times. Thus it is essential to use different TENSES to bifurcate the events.

have begun is correct usage.

also allow to is correct idiom.

allow that : shows subjunctive mood that is not the intended meaning.
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Since 1986, when the Department of Labor began to allow investment officer's fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several coporations began paying their investment advisers a small basic fee, with a contract promising highrer fees if the managers perform well.

a) investment officer's fees to be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations began

b) investment officer's fees to be based on the performance of thefunds they manage, several corporations began

c) that fees of investment officers be based on how the funds they manage perform, several corporations have begun

d) fees of investment officers to be based on the performance og the funds they manage, several corporations have begun

e) that investment officer's fees be based on the performance of the funds they manage, several corporations began

OA is d

I dont's understand OG explanation.
It says that investment officers' is a possessive modifying fees, and the flural noun fees intervenes between officers'.
-> that's why a, b, e are out!
does plural pronoun such as they always refer to the word right before the pronoun if there are two plural words before the pronoun ? Please~~ somebody explains for me!!
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23 Nov 2011, 21:19
A possessive noun cannot be a subject, like officer's here. so the noun here is the fees.

sentence has 'Since 1986', so we must use 'have + past participle'. -- general rule

Since the fee of the officer is more imp. here, its best to use passive form for Officer.

with all this reason D is the best.
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06 Mar 2012, 06:46
according to mgmat sc, allow does not take the subjunctive form. moreover, the usage of since suggests that we use have begun.

ans: d
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In A, B and E, began is in the wrong tense. Since requires the present perfect tense: since 1986...several corporations HAVE BEGUN. Eliminate A, B and E.

In C, be based should not be in the subjunctive mood. The subjunctive mood is appropriate when an action is being requested or demanded -- not when it is being ALLOWED. The correct idiom here is allow X to Y. Eliminate C.

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