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So dogged were Frances Perkin's investigations of the garment industry

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New post 13 May 2019, 03:48
Got it. Thanks. I'd like to make a similar sentence with same concept. Correct me if i am wrong.
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It is perfectly ok, but give me a sentence using 'her' preferably both as a possessive and as an object.
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Jenifer's idea to climb the Everest was declined by her parents, but her strong conviction to do so convinced them & made her physique ready to March towards the campaign.

Her parents -- possessive
Her strong conviction -- possessive
made her physique -- again possessive
Where is the object pronoun "her"
Hint: simply drop one word and you will get an object pronoun in one of them.
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I think this one of the weird GMAT prep questions... no good explanations in any of the forums... if some one can really go on and dissect it rather than just telling E looks better parallel than others , than KUDOS are waiting for him

So dogged were Frances Perkins’ investigations of the garment industry, and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, Alfred E. Smith and Franklin D. Roosevelt recruited Perkins to work within the government, rather than as a social worker.

A. and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent,
B. and lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, so that
C. her lobbying for wage and hour reform persistent, that
D. lobbying for wage and hour reform was so persistent,
E. so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that


My question is what is take away from this question. any similar examples.
Do we not need the 'AND' before second SO.
Do we not need the verb in construction E (is ellipses work here..can some one so another example )


Since the questions are pertaining to the structure of the correct choice, I will only take that one in my response.

So dogged were Frances Perkins’ investigations of the garment industry, so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that Alfred E. Smith and Franklin D. Roosevelt recruited Perkins to work within the government, rather than as a social worker.

I will simplify this sentence for my analysis:

So dogged were FP's investigations, so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that AES and FDR recruited Perkins to work within the government.

There are certain specific things about the structure of this sentence.

1: Inverted Structure


If this sentence were written in a more straightforward way, it would be as follows:
FP's investigations of the garment industry were so dogged that AES and FDR recruited Perkins to work within the government.
(notice that I have not considered the second element in this sentence for the sake of explanation. I will consider that in my analysis below:) )
Now to come up with the sentence in question, simply flip the order of the SV in the first clause in the simple sentence above. This will get us to the following version:
So dogged were FP's investigations, that AES and FDR recruited Perkins to work within the government.

2: Idiom used


Let's take the simplified version of the sentence (I will show both inverted and straight sentences)
- FP's investigations of the garment industry were so dogged that AES and FDR recruited Perkins to work within the government.
- So dogged were FP's investigations, that AES and FDR recruited Perkins to work within the government.
So as you can see, the idiom that has been used here is "So x that Y".

3: Two entities connected using a comma


I understand that there are two elements in the list but they have been connected using a comma. Let's consider the straight version of this sentence:
- FP's investigations of the garment industry were so dogged AND her lobbying for wage and hour reform was so persistent that AES and FDR recruited Perkins to work within the government.
In this version I would have added the second element using an AND.

Now let's consider the inverted structure.
- So dogged were FP's investigations AND so persistent was her lobbying for wage and hour reform that AES and FDR recruited Perkins to work within the government.
Here also I would have added the second element using an AND

So why is there is no AND and a COMMA instead - I do not know. I can almost say that it is a style of writing and certainly not a common style of writing.

4: Ellipsis


As you can see, the second element does not contain a verb. In fact ellipsis is at play here. Here is another sentence with similar ellipsis at play:

Of all the wild animals in their area, none was more useful to the Delaware tribes than the Virginia white- tailed deer: it was a source of meat, and its hide was used for clothing, its antlers and bones were used for tools, and its sinews and gut were used for bindings and glue.

    Notice the verb "was used" in the first element.
    Notice no verb in the second and third elements. But here ellipsis is at play.

Take away

- Follow the process for solving the question. Eliminate choices on deterministic errors and then consider errors such as punctuation etc. Yes, while you are preparing for GMAT, you must understand the construction of the correct sentence, but when you are in test environment, be confident of your approach and do not second guess yourself if questions such as these appear. :)

I hope this helps.

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Thanks, Payal for the excellent explanation.
I did not chose E because I strongly believed the two sentences should have been connected with 'AND'. Can I assume that this question was 700+ level?

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Despite having approx 100% correctness in OG , GMAT Prep , e-GMAT Mocks and MGMT mocks for the SC part, I have been stumped by this one .
So weird construction probably difficulty level is around 750 .
I 've a question, if in option C
there will be a construction like that : her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, that ( So X That Y )

will it be preferable than option E construction So X ,So Y , That Z .. ?

without a verb ' so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform ' really difficult to grasp in E for non-native like me .
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(A) and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent,
This one is tempting because two clauses are joined by 'and', but there is a parallelism error: So dogged...So Persistent

(B) and lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, so that
Same as (A)

(C) her lobbying for wage and hour reform persistent, that
Same as (A)

(D) lobbying for wage and hour reform was so persistent,
Same as (A)

(E) so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that
Correct: Ideally it should have been '....and was so persistent', but comparing with others, this one makes maximum sense because of parallelism

If you have a chance to correct on bases of parallelism, you should focus on that above trying to correct 'connecting by FANBOYS' error.
(Side note: FANBOYS stands for For, And, Nor, But, Or, Yet, So)
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Explanation:

A. Eliminate.
'so..that' is the correct idiom. 'that' is missing after 'persistent'. This sentence then is a run-on. Also, note that "her lobbying was persistent" is not parallel to "so dogged were "

B. Eliminate.
Idiom issue - 'so..that' is the correct idiom. 'so..so that' is wrong. The sentence also does not answer the question - lobbying by whom? "so that" denotes intent. The sentence says that lobbying was persistent so as to get FDR to recruit Perkins.

C. Eliminate.
‘So dogged’ and 'persistent' are not parallel. "her lobbying for wage and hour reforms persistent" modifies "so dogged were " - this does not make sense.

D. Eliminate.
Idiom issue - Same as B. The modifier ‘persistent' incorrectly modifies Smith. 'So dogged' and 'was so persistent' are not parallel. The sentence also does not answer the question - lobbying by whom?

E. Correct Answer. The idiom 'so.. that ..' is used correctly. There are no modifier issues.

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So dogged were Frances Perkins’ investigations of the garment industry, and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, Alfred E. Smith and Franklin D. Roosevelt recruited Perkins to work within the government, rather than as a social worker.

(A) and her lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent,

(B) and lobbying for wage and hour reform was persistent, so that

(C) her lobbying for wage and hour reform persistent, that

(D) lobbying for wage and hour reform was so persistent,

(E) so persistent her lobbying for wage and hour reform, that


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Can anyone please address why C is wrong?
Is it because "her lobbyinggg.." is a modifier and thus is not parallel to the structure "So+adjectivial phrase"
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