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# Stem: First of all, the meaning is alittle unclear. In his

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30 May 2003, 10:25
Stem:
First of all, the meaning is alittle unclear.

In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Paris, the archaelogist Manz cut through Montreal and uncovered a city a thousand years ( older as was the city Homer's heroes knew)

What city did Homer's heroes know about? Homer's heroes no longer live so is that right for me to say know or I have to say they knew. English is confusing, no question about it?

Are they talking about the same city? In Homer's time, the city probably was have been younger? Never mind city refers to Troy.
Isn't city a vague pronoun since it refers to civilization already. Stupid Testmakers.

This is the correct one:

BYZ) more ancient than the city known to Homer's heroes

Is known in the transitive condition? What is the transitive condition?

Past Tense:
Was is in the past tense, according to ETS, that is wrong.

It's an awkward sentence and that's why it's annoying to see how it is in the past tense.

It implies that Homer's heroes knew a civilization that was a thousand years younger instead of a thousand years older like today and it continues to be a thousand years older. Thus, the past tense is wrong.

Example would be:
It is a thousand years older. ( and continues to be)
It was a thousand years older.

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30 May 2003, 16:58
The city probably was younger. It is not have been younger.
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(Clarification)

Is the verb known transitive? ETS tests the transitive phase, since when?
This is the correct one:

BYZ) more ancient than the city known to Homer's heroes
( Past tense)

According to ETS, the use of was is wrong because it indicates the more ancient civiilzation was thousand years older.....

But from their sentence, who is the subject of was?
It is supposed to be the more ancient civilizations but in the incorrect answer choices it doesn't seem to be. How do you know that is what ETS is saying?

uncovered a city a thousand years ( older as was the city Homer's heroes knew)
I guess it's okay to deduce it's wrong by saying : The city Homer's heroes knew was a thousand years younger. It still is a thousand years younger and thus the use of the past tense is wrong.

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30 May 2003, 23:56
VTay25 wrote:
Stem:
First of all, the meaning is alittle unclear.

In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Paris, the archaelogist Manz cut through Montreal and uncovered a city a thousand years ( older as was the city Homer's heroes knew)

What city did Homer's heroes know about? Homer's heroes no longer live so is that right for me to say know or I have to say they knew. English is confusing, no question about it?

Are they talking about the same city? In Homer's time, the city probably was have been younger? Never mind city refers to Troy.
Isn't city a vague pronoun since it refers to civilization already. Stupid Testmakers.

This is the correct one:

BYZ) more ancient than the city known to Homer's heroes

Is known in the transitive condition? What is the transitive condition?

Past Tense:
Was is in the past tense, according to ETS, that is wrong.

It's an awkward sentence and that's why it's annoying to see how it is in the past tense.

It implies that Homer's heroes knew a civilization that was a thousand years younger instead of a thousand years older like today and it continues to be a thousand years older. Thus, the past tense is wrong.

Example would be:
It is a thousand years older. ( and continues to be)
It was a thousand years older.

Victor,

you are challenging me mentally.

I can't figure out a kasha like this It is too much for my brain. Let's start off with just the full question without your comments because I often can't figure out which is which, and I think that may be the reason not many people comment as well. We, just like you, drop by for a couple minutes at a time in between our work and other things we do; well, you know it yourself, so figuring out a quesion for 10 mins is not smth anybody is jumping to do...

Just my thoughts..

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02 Jun 2003, 10:59
In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Paris, the archaelogist Manz cut through Montreal and uncovered a city a thousand years ( older as was the city Homer's heroes knew)
a) older as was the city Homer's heroes knew
b) more ancient than the city known to Homer's heroes.
c) older than was the city known to Homer's heroes.
d) more ancient of a city than Homer's heroes knew.
e) older of acity than was the one known to Homer's heroes knew.

Questions that I have:
1) Why is the use of was wrong and how can you tell what is in past tense?

2) What verb tense is known have?

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07 Jun 2003, 12:26
I could not figure in that much do to.

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06 Jun 2007, 04:27
So what is the answer here and why ?

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06 Jun 2007, 12:46
narrowed it down to B & C and would probably go with C.

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