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which is not possible as sum of two must be more than or equal the twice the least time: 2*2.5=5. So Brian could not have won the race. - I still don't get this line , please explain
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Ans is D
since s=d/t or t=d/s so lower the speed more the time
since combined time of Stephanie and Regine exceeds that of Brian so Brian was the slowest.
Thus someone between Stephanie and Regine might have won the race
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We don’t know who has won the race and who has come last. All we know is the fastest time is 2.5 hrs and the fastest speed is 8mi/hr.
Let’s us assume that Brain won the race. He took 2.5 hrs to complete the race. In this case
S + R = 4.5
Now the minimum possible time S and R could have taken would be 2.25 hrs to complete the race, since if they took any time less than 2.25 hrs (which is already less than 2.5hrs), then it would mean that Brian wasn’t the first to win the race.

Note that if S (or R) took more than 2.5 hrs, it means R (or S) took less than 2.5 hrs, and hence Brian wouldn’t be winner in that case.
Now even if they took 2.25 hrs, still the case is not possible, because Brian needs to take the lowest time in order to be winner. So we come to conclusion that Brian cannot be a winner in any case.

Let’s assume that Stephanie won the race in record time of 2.5 hrs. In that case
B = R + 0.5
Note that even if R took the minimum possible time of (2.6 hrs), then Brian would be 3.1 hrs and Stephanie would be 2.5 hrs. This case is very much possible. So S came first, then R and B came last.
The same is true with
B = S + 0.5
R came first, S and then B.
So we see that B is a loser in any case, however R or S have equal chances to win.
So (D) is the answer.

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A person with a speed of 8 miles per hour will finish the 20 mile race in:
\(t=20/8=5/2=2.5hrs\)

There is no person faster than that so the time of S, R and B must be at least 2.5 hours.

Let S, R and B be the time it took each person to finish the race.
S + R = B + 2

So the minimum possible value for S+R = 2.5 + 2.5 = 5 hrs
Therefore, the minimum possible value for B = 5-2 = 3 hrs.

Let us test:
B=3, S=2.5,R=2.5 ==> S and R could win.
B=4, S=3,R=3 ==> B still could not win. Even if we force either S or R to exceed B, the balance will still make B lose.

Answer: I and II only
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Can someone clarify this.

1. Stephanie, Regine, and Brian ran a 20 mile race - [D = 20miles]
2. Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours - [S + R = B + 2]
3. nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour - [Max Speed = 20/8 = 2.5m/h]

What if
A. S = 2, R = 1.8 then B = 1.8 so S would win the race.
B. S = 1.8, R = 2 then B = 1.8 so B would win the race.
C. S = 2.1, R = 2.1 then B = 2.2 so B would win the race.

Why not option E? Where am i going wrong?
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Can someone clarify this.

1. Stephanie, Regine, and Brian ran a 20 mile race - [D = 20miles]
2. Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours - [S + R = B + 2]
3. nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour - [Max Speed = 20/8 = 2.5m/h]

What if
A. S = 2, R = 1.8 then B = 1.8 so S would win the race.
B. S = 1.8, R = 2 then B = 1.8 so B would win the race.
C. S = 2.1, R = 2.1 then B = 2.2 so B would win the race.

Why not option E? Where am i going wrong?


We are told that nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour, thus the maximum speed is 8 miles per hour not 2.5 miles per hour. Also, it would mean that minimum time one could complete the race is 20/8=2.5 hours, thus your examples are not valid.
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I did it this way-

Let ts=time of steph
tr=time of reg
tb=time of brian

ts+tr=tb+2

From the problem its clear that Brian takes more time.
Since brian takes more time he could not have won the race. (speed and time are inverse proportional)
We have no info about the other 2.So, anyone could have won the race.
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Stephanie, Regine, and Brian ran a 20 mile race. Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours. If nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour, who could have won the race?

I. Stephanie
II. Regine
III. Brian

A. I only
B. II only
C. III
D. only I or II only
E. I, II, or III


Given that S + R = B + 2, where S, R, and B are the times in which Stephanie, Regine, and Brian completed the race.

The minimum time to complete the race is 20/8 = 2.5 hours. Let's consider if Brian could have won: If he ran at the fastest rate, he would finish in 2.5 hours, making S + R = B + 2 = 2.5 + 2 = 4.5 hours. However, this is impossible since the sum of two times (S and R) must be at least twice the minimum time: 2*2.5 = 5. Therefore, Brian couldn't have won.

There's no reason to differentiate between Stephanie and Regine. If one could win, so could the other. Hence, both could have won the race.

Answer: D.

To elaborate more: The least time one could complete the race is 20/8 = 2.5 hours, hence \(S+R≥5\). Let's see if Brian could have won the race: The best chance for him to win would be if he ran at the fastest rate, so he would complete the race in 2.5 hours. In this case, the combined time needed for Stephanie and Regine would be S + R = B + 2 = 2.5 + 2 = 4.5 hours. However, we know that \(S+R≥5\). Therefore, even if Brian ran at his fastest rate to win the race, the equation S + R = B + 2 cannot hold true. Hence, Brian could not have won the race.

Hope it's clear.


Hi Bunuel

Why so S+R>=5 ?????

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Stephanie, Regine, and Brian ran a 20 mile race. Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours. If nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour, who could have won the race?

I. Stephanie
II. Regine
III. Brian

A. I only
B. II only
C. III
D. only I or II only
E. I, II, or III


Given that S + R = B + 2, where S, R, and B are the times in which Stephanie, Regine, and Brian completed the race.

The minimum time to complete the race is 20/8 = 2.5 hours. Let's consider if Brian could have won: If he ran at the fastest rate, he would finish in 2.5 hours, making S + R = B + 2 = 2.5 + 2 = 4.5 hours. However, this is impossible since the sum of two times (S and R) must be at least twice the minimum time: 2*2.5 = 5. Therefore, Brian couldn't have won.

There's no reason to differentiate between Stephanie and Regine. If one could win, so could the other. Hence, both could have won the race.

Answer: D.

To elaborate more: The least time one could complete the race is 20/8 = 2.5 hours, hence \(S+R≥5\). Let's see if Brian could have won the race: The best chance for him to win would be if he ran at the fastest rate, so he would complete the race in 2.5 hours. In this case, the combined time needed for Stephanie and Regine would be S + R = B + 2 = 2.5 + 2 = 4.5 hours. However, we know that \(S+R≥5\). Therefore, even if Brian ran at his fastest rate to win the race, the equation S + R = B + 2 cannot hold true. Hence, Brian could not have won the race.

Hope it's clear.


Hi Bunuel

Why so S+R>=5 ?????

Rgds
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Nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour --> the least time one could complete the race is 20/8=2.5 hours --> S+R>=2.5+2.5.

Hope it's clear.
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Stephanie, Regine, and Brian ran a 20 mile race. Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours. If nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour, who could have won the race?

I. Stephanie
II. Regine
III. Brian

A. I only
B. II only
C. III
D. only I or II only
E. I, II, or III


It's a good conceptual question. Here are my thoughts on it:

8 mph implies that each person took at least 20/8 = 2.5 hrs. They could have taken more time too.
So Stephanie and Regina's combined time is at least 2.5*2 = 5 hrs. So Brian's time taken is at least 3 hrs. Can Brian win? No. The difference between S and R's combined time and Brian's time is 2 hrs but each person takes more than 2.5 hrs.

If S and R together took 5 hrs, B took 3 hrs. Both S and R must have taken 2.5 hrs each.
If S and R together took 6 hrs, B took 4 hrs. Both S and R must have taken less than 4 hrs since each person takes at least 2.5 hrs.
If S and R together took 10 hrs, B took 8 hrs. Both S and R must have taken less than 8 hrs since each person takes at least 2.5 hrs.
Brian could never win.
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Stephanie, Regine, and Brian ran a 20 mile race. Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours. If nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour, who could have won the race?

I. Stephanie
II. Regine
III. Brian

(A) I only
(B) II only
(C) III only
(D) I or II only
(E) I, II, or III


We see that since nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour, then each of them took more than 20/8 = 2.5 hours to complete the 20-mile race.

If Stephanie took 2.6 hours and Regine took 2.7 hours to complete the race, then Brian took 2.6 + 2.7 - 2 = 3.3 hours to complete the race. In this case Stephanie is the winner of the race.

If we switch Stephanie’s time with Regine’s, then Regine is the winner of the race.

Finally, if we let Stepanie’s time = 2.5 + s and Regine’s time = 2.5 + r for some positive numbers s and r, then Brian’s time = 2.5 + s + 2.5 + r - 2 = 3 + s + r. We see that Brian took more time than either Stepanie or Regine to complete the race, which means he could never be the winner of the race. So only Stephanie or Regine could be the winner of the race.

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Stephanie, Regine, and Brian ran a 20 mile race. Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours. If nobody ran faster than 8 miles per hour, who could have won the race?

I. Stephanie
II. Regine
III. Brian

A. I only
B. II only
C. III
D. only I or II only
E. I, II, or III


Whenever a problem gives you an upper or lower limit, TEST THE LMIIT to see how the problem is constrained.

In this problem, our upper limit is 8mph. No one is allowed to have a faster rate.

Let's start with Brian. Let's say that he wins by running at the fastest allowed speed of 8 mph.

Time = Distance/Rate

Brian's time would be 20/8 = 2.5 hours.

Stephanie and Regine's combined times exceeded Brian's time by exactly 2 hours: This means Stephanie and Regine's combined time would be 2.5 + 2 = 4.5 hours.

In this case, the upper limit for Stephanie and Regine also is 8mph. Neither can run faster because we want Brian to win. Let's see what happens when Stephanie and Regine each run at 8mph.

Stephanie's time would be 20/8 = 2.5 hours.
Regine's time would be 20/8 = 2.5 hours.
Their combined time would be 2.5 + 2.5 = 5 hours.

Too much, because we need their combined time to be 4.5 hours.

But the only way for their combined time to be 4.5 hours is if they run faster. But they can't run faster because we want Brian to win.

So Brian can't win by going at the maximum rate of 8mph.

If Brian goes slower, the situation gets worse:

Let's say Brian runs at 5 mph.

Brian's time would be 20/5 = 4 hours.

This means Stephanie and Regine's combined time would be 4 + 2 = 6 hours.

In this case, the upper limit for Stephanie and Regine is 5mph. Neither can run faster because we want Brian to win. Let's see what happens when Stephanie and Regine each run at 5mph.

Stephanie's time would be 20/5 = 4 hours.
Regine's time would be 20/5 = 4 hours.
Their combined time would be 4 + 4 = 8 hours.

Too much, because we need their combined time to be 6 hours.

But the only way for their combined time to be 6 hours is if they run faster. But they can't run faster because we want Brian to win.

So we're stuck. Brian can't win, poor guy.
Eliminate any answer choice that includes Brian (C and E).
The correct answer must be A, B, or D.

"None" is not included among the answer choices, so we know that someone must be able to win. The problem makes no distinction between Stephanie and Regine; we know information only about their combined time. If Stephanie can win, why couldn't Regine? If Regine can win, why couldn't Stephanie? So either must be able to win.

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