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The answer will be "A".

Option "B" and "C" are eliminated because of the same reason:-
They used "pain, fatigue, and enhance alertness" which means "Stimulants can-eliminate pain, eliminate fatigue and eliminate enhance alertness" which is obviously wrong.

Option "D" is eliminated because it uses "pain and fatigue while enhancing alertness" which means "elimination and enhancement" are always simultaneous effects.

Option "E" is eliminated because it uses "and also enhancing alertness" which produces redundancy.
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[quote="satansanti"]This is from MGCAT.

Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.

A pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction
B pain, fatigue, and enhanced alertness; if used continuously for long periods, though, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
C pain, fatigue, and enhance alertness; people having used them continuously for long periods, though, can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
D pain and fatigue while enhancing alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
E pain and fatigue, and also enhancing alertness; however, people using them continuously for long periods can develop tolerance and even addiction

A is correct answer


hi,
firstly, the choices leave with no option but to mark A as the answer..
now onto your question.. If you look into the question stem, you realize the modifying clause refers directly to stimulants.
there is nothing between the clause and stimulants, to which clause can refer back..
so Yes it can refer to something slightly away if it unambigiously refers to that noun...
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This is from MGCAT.

Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.

A pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction
B pain, fatigue, and enhanced alertness; if used continuously for long periods, though, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
C pain, fatigue, and enhance alertness; people having used them continuously for long periods, though, can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
D pain and fatigue while enhancing alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
E pain and fatigue, and also enhancing alertness; however, people using them continuously for long periods can develop tolerance and even addiction

A is correct answer


hi,
firstly, the choices leave with no option but to mark A as the answer..
now onto your question.. If you look into the question stem, you realize the modifying clause refers directly to stimulants.
there is nothing between the clause and stimulants, to which clause can refer back..
so Yes it can refer to something slightly away if it unambigiously refers to that noun...


In option A, we have this
Stimulants can eliminate ...., but, if used continuously for long periods, (stimulants) can cause
hence 'if used continuously for long periods' is modifying (stimulants).

However in option D,
Stimulants can eliminate ..., but, if used continuously for long periods, users can
here stimulants is not repeating and thus 'if used continuously for long periods' is modifying users.

Hope this understanding is correct
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Hi Experts / chetan2u / daagh,

First, I would like to share explanation given by MGMAT
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The sentence juxtaposes certain positive and negative effects of stimulants. There are two positive effects cited—(a) the elimination of pain and fatigue, and (b) the enhancement of alertness. On the other hand, negative effects—the development of tolerance and/or addiction—are also cited.

The two positive effects should appear in a parallel structure. The sentence should also use a proper transition to express the contrast between the positive and negative effects. Finally, the sentence must use modifiers accurately; specifically, “if used continuously…” must properly refer to the stimulants themselves, not to their users.

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1) how could the "development of tolerance" be the negative effect. IMO its positive effect
If a person has good tolerance power than I think it a good thing..... Please correct my reasoning if wrong.

I would like to discuss between A and D
I opted for wrong option D

A. pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.
D. pain and fatigue while enhancing alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them.

After opted for wrong option D, I realized that word eliminate and enhance must be parallel. So we are only left with option A and C.

Apart from this I want to discuss the usage of can develop VS to develop
I eliminated A because of usage to develop

to develop---> shows INTENTION. It means users are drinking coffee for long periods as they WANT to develop tolerance and even addiction.
IMO, this should not be the intended meaning of sentence, that's why I eliminated A.

Please assist, why to develop is correct.
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Hi

To develop tolerance is not a positive factor. Tolerance here does not mean patience or forgiveness. In medical terms, tolerance means immunity or resistance. Therefore developing tolerance is a negative factor.
Secondly, causing something to develop does not mean intention. It is simply a cause and effect. So we should not disconnect to develop from the causal agent. Further, development of a negative trait cannot logically be by an intention. It is a side effect that occurs in tandem, whether one wants it or not. For example, consider this: If people consume high-fat food, it may lead them to suffer a heart attack. – This does not mean that people consume high-fat food in order to undergo a heart attack.

Therefore, I feel ‘to develop’ is correct in this context.

As regards D, in addition to parallelism, a fatal flaw is that the modifier - if used continuously for long periods,- modifies the users, meaning as though the users are used long periods.

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Hi daagh,

Thank for quick reply. However I still want to discuss one more thing. If in medical terms, tolerance means immunity or resistance than also it should be a good thing.
Eg- Eating basil leaves improves immunity.

If a person's immunity = tolerance is getting developed than it should be good.

Please assist.
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Perceptions will differ, but we should take MGMAT's thinking as the final.
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Hi daagh,

Thank for quick reply. However I still want to discuss one more thing. If in medical terms, tolerance means immunity or resistance than also it should be a good thing.
Eg- Eating basil leaves improves immunity.

If a person's immunity = tolerance is getting developed than it should be good.

Please assist.

Hi Prakhar,

i) Immunity to/from a good thing - Bad news (For example, immunity to antibiotics - Bad news)
ii) Immunity to/from a bad thing - Good news (For example, immunity to disease - Good news)

Here, the sentence is talking about Immunity to a good thing (caffeine: good because it eliminates pain and fatigue and enhances alertness). Hence here, immunity is bad news and not good.
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After opted for wrong option D, I realized that word eliminate and enhance must be parallel.

Not really. There is no enhance in D. It uses enhancing and that's fine.

However, as daagh has already mentioned, the big issue with D is that the Participial phrase if used continuously for long periods modifies users, erroneously implying that users are used continuously for long periods!
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Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.

(A) pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction

(B) pain, fatigue, and enhanced alertness; if used continuously for long periods, though, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them

(C) pain, fatigue, and enhance alertness; people having used them continuously for long periods, though, can develop tolerance and even addiction to them

(D) pain and fatigue while enhancing alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them

(E) pain and fatigue, and also enhancing alertness; however, people using them continuously for long periods can develop tolerance and even addiction


Isn't the usage of 'comma+ but' in option A incorrect?

Comma+ FANBOYS is used to separate two independent clauses.

1. I went home, and then I slept- Correct
2. I went home, then I slept - Run-on
3. I went home and slept - Correct; here 2 verbs are added, not two clauses
4. I went home, and slept - Incorrect

OA- A seems analogous to case 4 above.

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Isn't the usage of 'comma+ but' in option A incorrect?

Comma+ FANBOYS is used to separate two independent clauses.

1. I went home, and then I slept- Correct
2. I went home, then I slept - Run-on
3. I went home and slept - Correct; here 2 verbs are added, not two clauses
4. I went home, and slept - Incorrect

OA- A seems analogous to case 4 above.

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Some people would consider the use of a comma in I went home, and slept incorrect. This is not a strict rule and such commas are used frequently by even the best writers.

Because the GMAT does not test it, we should avoid applying this "rule".
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Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.

Isn't the usage of 'comma+ but' in option A incorrect?

Comma+ FANBOYS is used to separate two independent clauses.

1. I went home, and then I slept- Correct
2. I went home, then I slept - Run-on
3. I went home and slept - Correct; here 2 verbs are added, not two clauses
4. I went home, and slept - Incorrect

OA- A seems analogous to case 4 above.


As AjiteshArun correctly notes, almost every comma "rule" can be violated.

In general, the more stuff we cram into a sentence, the more useful it might be to include some commas to make things clearer to a reader. Consider a simple example:

    "Zoe loves her pet poodle but would rather not clean up after him."

This is conventional usage, since I'm not introducing a list or a new clause. But ultimately, the question of whether to include a comma after "poodle" is up to the writer's discretion. To me, this sentence seems clear enough as it is.

But now take a more complicated version of the same sentence:

    "Zoe loves her pet poodle and pet cockatiel and enjoys pitting them against each other in games of Twister, but hates cleaning up after them."

There's no rule dictating that I absolutely NEED that comma after "Twister," but because I've included another object (the cockatiel) and another verb (enjoys), the sentence is just harder to read without the comma, which allows the reader to take a much-needed pause.

The takeaway: there are very few ironclad rules involving commas, and the GMAT rarely uses punctuation as a decision point, so try to find more definitive reasons for eliminating answer choices.

I hope that helps!
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Should there not be an "it" before "can cause":

Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, it can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.
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Should there not be an "it" before "can cause":

Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, it can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.
Hi Kritisood,

Good question. There are a couple of issues we should look at:

1. Let's take all the extra stuff out.
Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue... but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance....

Stimulants (1) can eliminate A and B... but (2) can cause Y.

The enhance complicates things a bit, but doesn't lead to any major changes in our analysis.

2. The subject is stimulants (plural), so we would not really want to use an it (singular).
Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue, but it can cause users to develop tolerance.

To summarize: adding a they would not hurt, but is not necessary. The sentence is clear enough in its current form (a they may in fact confuse the reader: does the they refer to stimulants or to pain and fatigue?).
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chetan2u wrote:
satansanti wrote:
This is from MGCAT.

Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction.

A pain and fatigue and enhance alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, can cause users to develop tolerance and even addiction
B pain, fatigue, and enhanced alertness; if used continuously for long periods, though, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
C pain, fatigue, and enhance alertness; people having used them continuously for long periods, though, can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
D pain and fatigue while enhancing alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them
E pain and fatigue, and also enhancing alertness; however, people using them continuously for long periods can develop tolerance and even addiction

A is correct answer


hi,
firstly, the choices leave with no option but to mark A as the answer..
now onto your question.. If you look into the question stem, you realize the modifying clause refers directly to stimulants.
there is nothing between the clause and stimulants, to which clause can refer back..
so Yes it can refer to something slightly away if it unambigiously refers to that noun...


In option A, we have this
Stimulants can eliminate ...., but, if used continuously for long periods, (stimulants) can cause
hence 'if used continuously for long periods' is modifying (stimulants).

However in option D,
Stimulants can eliminate ..., but, if used continuously for long periods, users can
here stimulants is not repeating and thus 'if used continuously for long periods' is modifying users.

Hope this understanding is correct


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Hi, I just want to ask why in option D 'used' cant refer back to stimulants? How should one decide what is 'used' modifying (users or stimulants)? Please guide me. Thanks in advance.
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Hi, I just want to ask why in option D 'used' cant refer back to stimulants? How should one decide what is 'used' modifying (users or stimulants)? Please guide me. Thanks in advance.


D: Stimulants, such as caffeine, can eliminate pain and fatigue while enhancing alertness, but, if used continuously for long periods, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them.
Here, but serves to connect the blue clause to the red clause.
Each of these clauses is INDEPENDENT: each has a subject and verb and thus must be able to stand on its own as a complete sentence.
The red clause, on its own:
If used continuously for long periods, users can develop tolerance and even addiction to them.
Here, used seems to modify users, implying that USERS are USED CONTINUOUSLY.
This meaning is nonsensical.
Eliminate D.

Generally, if a conjunction serves to connect two independent clauses:
Any modifier in the first clause must refer to a word in the first clause.
Any modifier in the second clause must refer to a word in the second clause.
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I am actually confused whether "If used continuously...." is in the simple past tense. If yes then shouldn't the "then-clause" be either in simple past or follow would + verb structure?

Ex - I used to be good at English grammar. This is a simple past, but what tense is followed in the if clause in choice A? Could you please help to clarify my doubt?

Moreover, if we are referring to a condition that never occurred in past. We use if + had + condition, then + would + have (present perfect) construction. Is my understanding correct here?

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