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Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers' conclusion?

a) elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year
b) elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people
c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not
d) most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do
e) many religious have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people
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13 Aug 2011, 15:13
if the conclusion is based on the premise that OLD RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY DO DIE AFTER A RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY THAN BEFORE- THAN A PREMISE THAT SAYS THE SAME THING :'LESS LIKELY" TO DIE BEFORE OR DURING IS STRENGHENING THE CONCLUSION.

THEY HAVE A WILL TO LIVE BEFORE AND DURING A HOLIDAY SO THEY DONT DIE. BUT AFTER A HOLIDAY AND LONG BEFORE THEY HAVE NOT GOT THE WILL TO LIVE. A is right
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13 Aug 2011, 16:20
How can you infer that waiting after the holidays to die is a sign of willpower? There are always important religious holidays after the upcoming holiday....does that mean that the old people will live forever?
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13 Aug 2011, 17:31
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premise is:
elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one
the conclusion is:
at least for short periods of time.

so they die right after a holiday-it's the premise and they can make it for a short term.so the holiday that come after the holiday does not really matter. how can you conclude that they live forever.

premise: religion makes power of will for a short time so the eldery are likely to die only after a holiday and not before.

so if you say that eldery are not likely to die before/during a holiday you strenghten the conclusion
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13 Aug 2011, 18:50
+1 for A.

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14 Aug 2011, 04:31
Why cannot we go for C..It states that some elderly people who practice religion live much longer than people who do not..Isn't that premise enough to state the conclusion that people live longer due to the belief in religion..
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Why cannot we go for C..It states that some elderly people who practice religion live much longer than people who do not..Isn't that premise enough to state the conclusion that people live longer due to the belief in religion..

IMDO C IS WRONG:
1. nothing in the stem declares something about non-religious or compare between non-religious (NR) and religious (R).
2. nothing in the stem states that R live longer than NR (WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THE STEM DEALS WITH DEATH)- It just states that R deaths are likely to occure after a holiday.
to clarify: according to the stem nothing is declared about NR. so theoritically THE STEN DOES NOT NEGATE the possibility in which all NR live longer than R, but R dies in specific period (after) and not in other periods (during/before).
let's say that all NR in the world are 100 and R are 100 too.

according to the stem a possibility that all 100 NR are over 90 years and all R are just below(i.e) 80, but R tend to die after holidays not during/before because that short power of will in front of a holiday is dragging them only a bit more. hence C is false. this is only MDO.
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14 Aug 2011, 09:07
I initially picked E)...how does that not strengthen the conclusion of will power -> live longer?
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14 Aug 2011, 11:20
Not e. 1. E declares lower rates of death for eldery in general not for R eldery. 2. E does not say in what period in fall/spring the lower rates of death are. Maybe the lower rates of death are immidiately after a holiday which weakens the conclusion? 3. If the stem states that they drag only short period it will be an extreme to declare that power of will made them live for all fall or spring In CR every single word is important. I think u could be right if E stated that lower rates of death of Eldery R occure in summer or fall or greater rates after summer or fall that have holidays.

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07 Feb 2016, 20:47
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Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers' conclusion?

a) elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year
b) elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people
c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not
d) most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do
e) many religious have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people

Can Someone explain why Option C is Incorrect here!
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mrblack wrote:
Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers' conclusion?

a) elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year
b) elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people
c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not
d) most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do
e) many religious have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people

Can Someone explain why Option C is Incorrect here!

Hi,
the usage of 'some' in ' some elderly people'..
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c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not

It could mean that most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice..
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07 Feb 2016, 21:03
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smartguy595 wrote:
mrblack wrote:
Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers' conclusion?

a) elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year
b) elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people
c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not
d) most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do
e) many religious have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people

Can Someone explain why Option C is Incorrect here!

Hi,
the usage of 'some' in ' some elderly people'..
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c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not

It could mean that most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice..

Hi Chetan,

how do you deduce the Statement "most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice."

from original statement - "some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not"

if there are total 100 elderly people who practice a religion & 100 who do not practice religion

then as per original statement - (1-100) of elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than (51-100) elderly people who do not.

am not sure how to relate this sentence to Conclusion & eliminate it
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chetan2u wrote:

Hi,
the usage of 'some' in ' some elderly people'..
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c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not

It could mean that most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice..

Hi Chetan,

how do you deduce the Statement "most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice."

from original statement - "some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not"

if there are total 100 elderly people who practice a religion & 100 who do not practice religion

then as per original statement - (1-100) of elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than (51-100) elderly people who do not.

am not sure how to relate this sentence to Conclusion & eliminate it

Hi,
I am not deducing it, since I amusing the word 'could mean'..
what I am saying that with the wordings given this can also be a possibility..

what is important is the usage of word 'some'..
we do not know what is the case with the most of the elderly practicing religion..
IT may be possible..
most practicing could be living more than most of non followers..
But we cannot deduce the above logically fronm choice C..
that is the problem with it..

It just talks of some, which is not sufficient to strengthen because we cannot speak anything about the majority
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10 Oct 2016, 15:36
How can (A) be the answer. Isn't it just repeating what the question stem states?

Could someone please shed some light?

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02 Nov 2016, 04:29
How is A the ans? It is simply re-phrasing the question
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15 Nov 2016, 09:11
Isn't Option A the re phrasal of the premise given in the argument as it is already given that people who practice a religion die after a religious holiday..
it is easily inferred that before a holiday or during that holiday they don't or areless likely to die.....

And I chose option C..Can anybpdy tell me what is wrong with that?
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16 Nov 2016, 11:42
C is such an irritating choice. Is 'some' the only reason that plagues option C?
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03 Dec 2016, 02:09
My take on the question.
Premise: Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one.
Conclusion: Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

From the conclusion we understand that the WILL TO LIVE is related to PRACTICE OF RELIGION.
We have to select a choice that strengthens the conclusion or makes it more believable.
We know strengthen choice SHOULD be new information and that is what made me choose option C and not A because A is a re-statement of the premise.

After going through the explanation, I understood why C is not correct.
Option C states
SOME elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than MOST elderly people who do not
Such words always make CR questions tricky.

If some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not then there are some elderly people who practice religion but do not live longer (It can be even one person) than elderly people who do not practice.
So this kind of different from what the argument states as it does not mention whether some live or most live. It just states that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one.
So this choice can be eliminated.

Choice A is an extension of what is stated in the argument.
Elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year.

Is my understanding of ‘some’ correct ?
Can a strengthen answer include information already stated in the argument ?
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03 Dec 2016, 11:38
The conclusion is that will to live prolongs life. The premise is that religious people are more likely to die after a religious occasion than before.

The religious people intend to participate in a religious occasion - this intent creates a will to live at least till the day of the occasion. This will in turn makes them live till the day. However as soon as the day is over the intent to participate is gone and hence the will to live also reduces, thus religious people die immediately after the day of the occasion. Hence A is correct.

C is wrong because the argument does not claim that practising religion increases life span - the argument is about whether the will to live prolongs life.
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