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Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers' conclusion?

a) elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year
b) elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people
c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not
d) most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do
e) many religious have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people


Can Someone explain why Option C is Incorrect here!


Hi,
the usage of 'some' in ' some elderly people'..
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c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not

It could mean that most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice..


Hi Chetan,

how do you deduce the Statement "most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice."

from original statement - "some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not"

if there are total 100 elderly people who practice a religion & 100 who do not practice religion

then as per original statement - (1-100) of elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than (51-100) elderly people who do not.

am not sure how to relate this sentence to Conclusion & eliminate it :(
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New post 07 Feb 2016, 22:18
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Hi,
the usage of 'some' in ' some elderly people'..
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c) some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not

It could mean that most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice..


Hi Chetan,

how do you deduce the Statement "most elderly people who practice religion live lesser than some who do not practice."

from original statement - "some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not"

if there are total 100 elderly people who practice a religion & 100 who do not practice religion

then as per original statement - (1-100) of elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than (51-100) elderly people who do not.

am not sure how to relate this sentence to Conclusion & eliminate it :(


Hi,
I am not deducing it, since I amusing the word 'could mean'..
what I am saying that with the wordings given this can also be a possibility..

what is important is the usage of word 'some'..
we do not know what is the case with the most of the elderly practicing religion..
IT may be possible..
most practicing could be living more than most of non followers..
But we cannot deduce the above logically fronm choice C..
that is the problem with it..

It just talks of some, which is not sufficient to strengthen because we cannot speak anything about the majority
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What is wrong with C?



Option C says that being religious is the reason for them to live longer. However the conclusion that we have to strengthen is 'Its their will that helps them to live longer'.
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Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

100 people practice religion.
die before religious ceremony ______________________ die in between________________-die after
30_____________50_____________20

the will is not the factor - weaken
so if we remove all other factor that could be responsible for prolong life - strengthen.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers conclusion?

(A) Elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year.
(B) Elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people. :- it actually weakens as it is the less anxiety that leads to delayed death, not the will power. Also, if you are less anxious about death, no matter if death come now or then.

(C) Some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not. :- it is the religion and not will power. also some give it away.

(E) Many religions have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people.

I find A & E both seems good to me.
E strengthen the idea a bit more by stretching the sample size.

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How can (A) be the answer. Isn't it just repeating what the question stem states?

Could someone please shed some light?

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How is A the ans? It is simply re-phrasing the question
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Isn't Option A the re phrasal of the premise given in the argument as it is already given that people who practice a religion die after a religious holiday..
it is easily inferred that before a holiday or during that holiday they don't or areless likely to die.....

And I chose option C..Can anybpdy tell me what is wrong with that?
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C is such an irritating choice. Is 'some' the only reason that plagues option C?
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My take on the question.
Premise: Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one.
Conclusion: Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

From the conclusion we understand that the WILL TO LIVE is related to PRACTICE OF RELIGION.
We have to select a choice that strengthens the conclusion or makes it more believable.
We know strengthen choice SHOULD be new information and that is what made me choose option C and not A because A is a re-statement of the premise.

After going through the explanation, I understood why C is not correct.
Option C states
SOME elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than MOST elderly people who do not
Such words always make CR questions tricky.

If some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not then there are some elderly people who practice religion but do not live longer (It can be even one person) than elderly people who do not practice.
So this kind of different from what the argument states as it does not mention whether some live or most live. It just states that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one.
So this choice can be eliminated.

Choice A is an extension of what is stated in the argument.
Elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year.

Is my understanding of ‘some’ correct ?
Can a strengthen answer include information already stated in the argument ?
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The conclusion is that will to live prolongs life. The premise is that religious people are more likely to die after a religious occasion than before.

The religious people intend to participate in a religious occasion - this intent creates a will to live at least till the day of the occasion. This will in turn makes them live till the day. However as soon as the day is over the intent to participate is gone and hence the will to live also reduces, thus religious people die immediately after the day of the occasion. Hence A is correct.

C is wrong because the argument does not claim that practising religion increases life span - the argument is about whether the will to live prolongs life.
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option A is almost same as given in argument but still it is the answer.

Option E is promising older people do want to live the religious holiday and due their desire for that they do not die during that period which is mentioned in option E that is during spring and fall there are less number of elderly death.
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Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers conclusion?

(A) Elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year.
Correct. It is more of an inference. We know this already from the premise that the followers of a religion tend to die more number of times post the holidays than before the holidays.

(B) Elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people.
This option is a weakener. It gives us an alternative that the anxiety is low in elderly people who follow a religion.

(C) Some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not.
Its a fact set. Plus, we are not worried about the comparison with the non followers of religion.

(D) Most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do.
We are not worried about the reason

(E) Many religions have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people.
We are not worried about the time of year when the religious holidays fall.
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option A is almost same as given in argument but still it is the answer.

Option E is promising older people do want to live the religious holiday and due their desire for that they do not die during that period which is mentioned in option E that is during spring and fall there are less number of elderly death.


There are 2 important grounds that the premise talks about -
1. Elderly people who practice a religion
2. dying immediately after holiday period - SPAN

The conclusion relates to -
3. The willingness to live longer enough to finish the holiday span
(Though you may not be able to digest this at first, but convince yourself immediately to get comfortable with such statements; else your mind will somewhere be struck at it and hence, less focus on the question. This was important for me. So, tried to reason immediately that elderly people might have prayed to celebrate this holiday period as their last one with their relatives and family - whatever works for you)

So, the strengthening option must relate to all these 3 points.
A - relates all three grounds - holiday span, religious practice and willingness to live through this span. You may ask - how is willingness related ?
Because if this particular statement is true, then only factor of willingness has made them to survive through the holiday period before dying.
C- misses out the very important ground of including Holiday Span in the statement logic. Incomplete in this context.

D & E are eliminated on identical grounds of missing to relate all the three points.
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Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.

Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers conclusion?


(A) Elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year.
- Correct as is. Elderly people who practice a religion have a reason to WANT to avoid dying immediately before/during an important religious holiday

(B) Elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people.
- Not sure anxiety is directly tied to prolonging life/dying. also compare religious people to other people unnecessarily -- only considered with the will to prolong life.

(C) Some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not.
- "Some" can be 1 or 99%. also, not concerned about living MUCH longer -- remember, Conclusion is focused on prolonging life for SHORT PERIODS OF TIME.

(D) Most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do.
- Out of scope. The reasons people participate in religious holidays is irrelevant.

(E) Many religions have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people.
- Out of scope. Lowest death rates do NOT relate to the WILL to avoid dying.

must share that i thought this was a tough one. by using POE, i was able to knock down quite a few A/C but ultimately its about how well you understand the conclusion

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