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04 Sep 2010, 02:12
Hello GC mambers,

Greetings!

I gave GMAT 15 days back and got a shattering score 470(Q36, v19). I am targeting to apply in R2 and targetting 700 + score.

I have taken a week off from work to focus on my weak areas . As we know 36 is also not a great score for quant and 19 is not even average score for verbal . I am planning to improve on quant esp Number System and Inequalities and VICs during this period . At the same time I also believe I should be improving Verbal as well starting with SC.

I need your advise to best utilize my time w.r.t percentage of time that should be spend at both the sections and subtopics that should be covered during this time.

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04 Sep 2010, 03:41
Dear PositiveSoul,

Most of the schools' R2 is in Dec-Jan. So u have good 3 months in your hands. I would recommend you to start all over again rather than just targeting on your weak areas. For first 15 days, brush up all ur basics. Then start with GMAT problems.

As ur quants looks comparatively better, start with it. This will help boosting ur confidence. Then once you reach 80-90% accuracy, take SC. SC is almost like math..all you need is strong grammar. Then do quants and RC/CR together. Don't do only RC or only CR for a whole day. Its very exhaustive.

List down the things - except from study part - what went wrong in ur first attempt.
study time, study style, stamina, health problems, mis-planning..

You can find best GMAT study plan at gmat-study-plan-for-gmat-novices-start-your-gmat-journey-80727.html

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04 Sep 2010, 08:15
Thanks Piya for the advise . By: For first 15 days, brush up all ur basics, do u mean I should be doing all basics or quant basics?
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04 Sep 2010, 08:47
I have just begun studying but I definitely recommend doing a foundations book- I know MGMAT has one for math. I am not sure where you can get a verbal one. What materials do you have?
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04 Sep 2010, 08:50
Also, when are you planning to take the next GMAT?
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Before I give you any suggestions, this is a monster thread that talks about EVERYTHING you'll possible need to know.

36 and 19 are not your average scores and might indicate a fundamental weakness in your preparation and knowledge. But it's not impossible to bring your score up.

1. Get the MGMAT or Veritas Prep Math Fundamentals book. I've heard good things about both the books and I am sure it'll help bring you up-to-date on the basic concepts.
2. Then, if you can, enroll in a Knewton class or buy either the MGMAT Bundle or the Veritas books. These are comprehensive resources that will definitely aid you in your preparation. Choose between them - they're both good.
3. Get the Powerscore CR Bible. Definitely get MGMAT SC.

From here on, devise a strategy that would basically involve a familiarization phase and a practice phase. First gain proper understanding of concepts. Don't do practice questions on a brute-force method during this period. Take notes. Once you're done, start doing questions. Definitely get the OG 12, OG Quant Review and OG Verbal Review if you haven't already. Start working on practice problems and keep an error log. Initially do the problems untimed, but once you're achieving a good hit rate on all question types, switch to timed practice. Use the error log to identify weaknesses in your study.

Then finally take practice exams and see where you stand. If you're consistently scoring >700 in your practice tests (esp. GMAT Prep), then you're in good shape. If not, go back and re-do your problem areas.

Hope this helps, and good luck!
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04 Sep 2010, 10:08
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Thanks Piya for the advise . By: For first 15 days, brush up all ur basics, do u mean I should be doing all basics or quant basics?

I meant that you should spend first 15 days brushing up highschool maths (Number theory, time-distance problems, work problems, simultaneous equations etc.) and basic rules of english grammar (components of sentence, active/passive voices, tenses, idioms etc).
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05 Sep 2010, 00:10
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I have just begun studying but I definitely recommend doing a foundations book- I know MGMAT has one for math. I am not sure where you can get a verbal one. What materials do you have?

Thanks lilli for your advise. I am planning to apply in R2 so will be taking test mid of Nov this year.
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05 Sep 2010, 00:31

whiplash2411 wrote:

36 and 19 are not your average scores and might indicate a fundamental weakness in your preparation and knowledge. But it's not impossible to bring your score up.

PS :I got 36 and 19 during my first GMAT attempt. Improving from 36Q-> 49Q and 19V->40V will involve a combination of knowing and applying concepts and using correct strategies for different sections and sub-sections. I need GC members help here to devise a strategy for the improvement.

1. Get the MGMAT or Veritas Prep Math Fundamentals book. I've heard good things about both the books and I am sure it'll help bring you up-to-date on the basic concepts.

PS: I got MGMAT books .

2. Then, if you can, enroll in a Knewton class or buy either the MGMAT Bundle or the Veritas books. These are comprehensive resources that will definitely aid you in your preparation. Choose between them - they're both good.

3. Get the Powerscore CR Bible. Definitely get MGMAT SC.

PS: I got both the books.

From here on, devise a strategy that would basically involve a familiarization phase and a practice phase. First gain proper understanding of concepts.

Approach 1: Learn concepts of all the subsections SC, CR, RC , PS, DS and just do MGMAT exercises. After completing this, do questions from different question banks like OG, OG Verbal and Quant and GmatClub topic wise questions.

Or

Approach 2:Learn one concept do all the questions for example in case of Number properties complete first topic; Prime numbers and divisibility and do all the questions for GMAT Club forum. In this way complete quant and then follow same approach for verbal.

Or

Approach 3: Complete each MGMAT book and after completion of each book do questions from forum. That means in case of quant complete all 5 books and do the topic wise questions from forum. After completing quant section move to verbal and follow same approach

Approach 4: Start Quant and Verbal lets say SC in parallel and do questions from forum.

Then finally take practice exams and see where you stand. If you're consistently scoring >700 in your practice tests (esp. GMAT Prep), then you're in good shape. If not, go back and re-do your problem areas.

PS: Sure will do that and will share my experience

Hope this helps, and good luck!
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05 Sep 2010, 01:20
The way I structured my study plan is by dividing it into four blocks.
1. Strategy. This involves internalizing the concepts. I've not done this for Quant yet because I have a 49 score on Q from GMAT prep before studying. For verbal I read and listen then take notes by hand. Then I typed the notes without looking at the handwritten ones and cross checked. This way I remember everything.
2. Familiarity. Practice questions from Veritas or MGMAT without timing. Use error logs. This will help track weakness by concepts. Go back and revise those areas. It doesn't matter for Quant if you do all concepts first or not. But for verbal I'd say go question by question.
3. Practice. Use the OG for timed practice after you're sure about bridging weaknesses identified through error logs. Keep track of timing and improve on that
4. Take practice tests and repeat whichever portion is necessary.

This is my study plan but maybe it'll give you an idea. Hope it does! Let me know if you want to know anything else

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05 Sep 2010, 01:48
Thanks again whiplash2411

whiplash2411 wrote:
The way I structured my study plan is by dividing it into four blocks.
1. Strategy. This involves internalizing the concepts. I've not done this for Quant yet because I have a 49 score on Q from GMAT prep before studying. For verbal I read and listen then take notes by hand. Then I typed the notes without looking at the handwritten ones and cross checked. This way I remember everything.

PS: I will follow this for both verbal and quant.

2. Familiarity. Practice questions from Veritas or MGMAT without timing. Use error logs. This will help track weakness by concepts. Go back and revise those areas. It doesn't matter for Quant if you do all concepts first or not. But for verbal I'd say go question by question.

PS: If I have interpreted correctly , by question by question you mean to say questions of each topic . For example cover all all question of SC like Parallelism , modifiers. Then after completing it all questions of each topic of CR. Please correct me in case there is any gap.

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05 Sep 2010, 12:11
No problem. You can check out my GMAT study plan thread if you want more inputs It's in my signature!
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07 Sep 2010, 10:55
Hi Positivesoul,
i will also advice you to read few success stories of people scoring above 700..They have written some nice debriefs and their study plans too like how they prepared for exam and what was their strategy..
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07 Sep 2010, 11:28
PositiveSoul: You might consider looking into the GMAT Club Grammar e-Book Previews posted online to get on target with the grammar level.
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07 Sep 2010, 11:31
Thanks Sandeep , Whip , surely I will do that
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07 Sep 2010, 16:54
i would definitely start fresh since your scores seems to be a bit low on both categories. I would go over the mgmat books, doing every practice problem and make sure you tag those that you got wrong for back review.
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08 Sep 2010, 02:02

Now a days I am concentrating on my strategies, considering I will be devoting 11.5 hrs to office(including traveling), do you recommend any specific study plan or study plan

gmat-study-plan-for-gmat-novices-start-your-gmat-journey-80727.html
is ok ?

The reason I am asking this question is , I am planning to apply in R2

@Whip, you have been very helpful so far.
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08 Sep 2010, 16:16
PositiveSoul wrote:

Now a days I am concentrating on my strategies, considering I will be devoting 11.5 hrs to office(including traveling), do you recommend any specific study plan or study plan

gmat-study-plan-for-gmat-novices-start-your-gmat-journey-80727.html
is ok ?

The reason I am asking this question is , I am planning to apply in R2

@Whip, you have been very helpful so far.

ok. since you need an overhaul and you have taken the gmat already you could skip some formalities on the novice page but I would suggest following it for maximum effect. Also, since you are applying in R2 i guess you have maybe 2+ months squeezing in 3 months max so you could tweak the plan around to fit your needs. good luck!
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11 Sep 2010, 12:39
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PositiveSoul wrote:

Now a days I am concentrating on my strategies, considering I will be devoting 11.5 hrs to office(including traveling), do you recommend any specific study plan or study plan

gmat-study-plan-for-gmat-novices-start-your-gmat-journey-80727.html
is ok ?

The reason I am asking this question is , I am planning to apply in R2

@Whip, you have been very helpful so far.

ok. since you need an overhaul and you have taken the gmat already you could skip some formalities on the novice page but I would suggest following it for maximum effect. Also, since you are applying in R2 i guess you have maybe 2+ months squeezing in 3 months max so you could tweak the plan around to fit your needs. good luck!

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11 Sep 2010, 13:20
I would spend some time first working on the basics. Immediately go out and review your grammar basics. Then start practicing SCR then move on to reading. One week may not be enough to get where you need to be.

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