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Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.


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To keep bread affordable in Suriland, the country's government requires that wheat farmers in the country sell their wheat to the government for one dollar per bushel less than the world market price.

This question requires us to identify a statement that seriously weakens the argument. The conclusion of the argument is that, if these wheat farmers could legally sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, minus additional transportation and brokerage costs.

However, this argument assumes that the world market price for wheat is fixed and would not be affected by introducing Suriland's wheat supply. That is, it is possible that the world market price per bushel for wheat might decline as a result of an increase in the wheat supply available on that market. If this were the case, it would severely weaken the argument.

A. This choice is outside the scope of the argument: the argument is about Suriland's wheat farmers increasing how much money that can receive per bushel, not about how these farmers' costs compare to the costs of farmers in other countries. In any case, this claim does not indicate that Suriland's wheat farmers could make a dollar more, minus any additional transportation and brokerage costs, than they do now.

B. Correct. An increase in supply on the world market with no increased demand could easily depress the price of wheat on the market. It is still possible that Suriland's farmers would make more than they do now, even after subtracting additional transportation and brokerage costs. But the argument specifically says that the farmers would make a dollar more, minus those costs, and that does not follow if the claim made in this answer choice is true.

C. Note that the argument suggests that these farmers would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay. That could still be true no matter what those costs are.

D. Whether Suriland's wheat is sold to near or distant countries is immaterial to the argument; note that the conclusion includes the qualification less any additional transportation costs.

E. This indicates that Suriland wheat farmers might sometimes lose money on their wheat if selling on the world market. This does not indicate, however, that they would not lose less on the world wheat market than they would selling to the government. Note that the government's price for wheat is pegged to the world market, so the price the world market offers and the price the government offers will always differ by the exact same amount: the government pays one dollar less.

The correct answer is B.
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Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. - Suriland has to compromise on one of two fronts. If the country exports wheat, bread would no longer remain abundant and affordable locally. If it keeps enough bread for local consumption, the country would not be able to export wheat.

Accordingly, Suriland’s wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. - Farmers are required to sell wheat to the government – and that too at a price cheaper than the price on the world market. The word ‘accordingly’ indicates this requirement is due to the constraint mentioned in the first statement.

Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay. - If the farmers were not bound to sell to the government, they would make one dollar more per bushel (less the additional costs).

Gist: The government requires farmers to sell wheat to it at $1/ bushel less than the world market price (support), If the farmers could sell on the world market, they would make $1/ bushel more than they currently do, less the additional costs (conclusion).

The Gap

The argument assumes that if the farmers could sell on the world market, they would. There are a few underlying assumptions here:

    1. Of their government and the world market, the farmers will sell to whoever pays them a higher price.
    2. The selling price of wheat on the world market will remain higher than the price at which the government buys from the farmers.
    3. The additional costs will not go beyond the additional revenue they’d generate on the world market.

The Goal

Taking some of the assumptions one step further:

  • What if the farmers, in the best interest of their country, wish to continue selling to the government?
  • What if the additional costs per bushel were higher than a dollar, disincentivizing the farmers from selling on the world market?

The usual caveat: there could be other assumptions and other ways to attack the assumptions.

The Evaluation

(A) Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
Incorrect. The argument deals with whether the farmers would make the additional dollar (less costs) per bushel if they were allowed to sell on the world market. How these farmers’ production costs compare with farmers from other countries has no bearing on the argument.

(B) Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
Correct
. In the hypothetical scenario, if farmers sold a substantial proportion of wheat crop on the world market, wheat’s price would likely decrease. If wheat’s price did decrease, farmers would no longer make $1/ bushel more (less additional costs) than what they made when their government was paying them on exporting wheat. They’d earn according to the new, reduced price of wheat.

(C) The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
Incorrect. The costs ‘could’ amount to ‘almost a dollar’ → the additional costs would still remain less than a dollar. So, the farmers would still make a higher revenue on selling the wheat on the world market. While, the closer the costs are to one dollar, the lower the incentive of farmers to go to the world market, as long as the farmers still make more money, they would have the added incentive to sell outside.

(D) Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
Incorrect. What are the transportation costs associated with exporting to countries that do import wheat from Suriland? Do none of the countries around Suriland import wheat? Just ‘cause Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat, doesn’t necessarily mean that all surrounding countries do not import any wheat. (I am surrounded by geniuses doesn’t imply everyone surrounding me is a genius.) Moreover, do none of the not-so-near countries import wheat? Doesn’t seem so, given the argument. Thus, while this piece of information might indicate that the additional transportation costs would not be miniscule, the option at best just mildly weakens the argument.

(E) The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.
Incorrect. How the price on the world market compares with the cost of production is irrelevant. The government pays $1 less than the world market price. So, if the farmers could sell on the world market, they still would – after all, they’d at least make a smaller loss selling on the world market than they would selling to their government.


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gmatt1476 wrote:
Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.


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Farmers are paid 1$ less for wheat by Govt than world market price.

Conclusion: If they sold wheat outside, they will get 1$ more per bushel (minus any transportation and brokerage).

It is a conditional conclusion. We need to say what will happen if these farmers sold outside. We need to find a reason that says that if these farmers sell outside, they may NOT get (1$ - transportation etc) extra.

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.

Irrelevant. We are only discussing two diff sale prices.

B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.

Correct. If these farmers sold outside, price of wheat will go down. Then they may not get 1$ extra.

C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.

Doesn't matter. How much actual extra money they will make is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will make (1$ - transportation etc) extra. Whether it amounts to $0.9 or $0.0001, it is irrelevant.

D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.

Again irrelevant. Where they will sell in the world market doesn't matter. Perhaps the transportation cost will be 0.01$ per bushel, we don't know. Even if the transportation cost is very high, realise that it is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will get ($1 - transportation) extra. Even if this becomes negative, the conclusion still holds. The transportation cost is a variable and could take any value without changing the conclusion. The problem is with $1. If that changes, then the conclusion will not hold. Option (B) clearly says that the extra margin of $1 may not be available if these farmers tried to sell outside. So it weakens our conclusion.

E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.

Again, cost of production is irrelevant. We are taking about what the govt pays them for wheat and what they can get outside in the world market. The argument clearly says that the Govt pays them a dollar less than what they would get outside. Those are the two prices we need to compare.

Answer (B)

Dear
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i think this answer is flawed.
Suppose wheat price in world market 1.1 dollar
farmers selling to Govt is 0.1 dollar
If farmers sold all wheat they may get 1.1 dollar
as per Ans B-
If all wheat is sold outside the price may go down to 1.09 dollar or 1.08 dollar or anything , but still the farmers can make profit.
so how we can conclude that seeling all wheat will lower the price to such an extent that it will be nonprofitable.
Please explain ...


Conclusion: if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make ($1 - Transportation) extra.

If the wheat price outside depresses, they will not make ($1 - Transportation) extra. They may make ($0.9 - Transportation) extra or ($0.8 - Transportation) extra and so on ...
And this weakens the conclusion. The conclusion does not say that the farmers will make something extra. It says they will make (($1 - Transportation) extra. If we can say that the farmers may make only ($0.9 - Transportation) extra, that weakens the conclusion.
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amoljain wrote:
VeritasKarishma wrote:
gmatt1476 wrote:
Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.


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Farmers are paid 1$ less for wheat by Govt than world market price.

Conclusion: If they sold wheat outside, they will get 1$ more per bushel (minus any transportation and brokerage).

It is a conditional conclusion. We need to say what will happen if these farmers sold outside. We need to find a reason that says that if these farmers sell outside, they may NOT get (1$ - transportation etc) extra.

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.

Irrelevant. We are only discussing two diff sale prices.

B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.

Correct. If these farmers sold outside, price of wheat will go down. Then they may not get 1$ extra.

C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.

Doesn't matter. How much actual extra money they will make is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will make (1$ - transportation etc) extra. Whether it amounts to $0.9 or $0.0001, it is irrelevant.

D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.

Again irrelevant. Where they will sell in the world market doesn't matter. Perhaps the transportation cost will be 0.01$ per bushel, we don't know. Even if the transportation cost is very high, realise that it is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will get ($1 - transportation) extra. Even if this becomes negative, the conclusion still holds. The transportation cost is a variable and could take any value without changing the conclusion. The problem is with $1. If that changes, then the conclusion will not hold. Option (B) clearly says that the extra margin of $1 may not be available if these farmers tried to sell outside. So it weakens our conclusion.

E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.

Again, cost of production is irrelevant. We are taking about what the govt pays them for wheat and what they can get outside in the world market. The argument clearly says that the Govt pays them a dollar less than what they would get outside. Those are the two prices we need to compare.

Answer (B)


Hello Expert,

In option B, the language says that "Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat." If we see only the market as a stand-alone entity, then yes, this statement will be diminishing the profit percentage of the farmer over what is being said in the statement. However, we are comparing the price farmer will be getting from the world market as opposed to the government. In this case, as we do not know what will be the price government will be issuing to buy off the crop, we cannot compare if the farmer will be getting $1 minus the transportation or not. Said that, if the government is paying a dollar less right now, the government may as well as pay a dollar less in respect to the market price, whatever it may be. In this case, our reasoning falls apart.

However, if we consider option C, which clearly states that although the world market is paying a dollar extra in absolute cost, the overheads match the net profit of the farmers to what the government is paying; farmers would have no reason to go and sell the crop in the world market. This is assuming that the inferred conclusion of the passage is infact that the farmers are willing to export to gain higher profit.

I am very confused as to the right reasoning to mark the answer correctly, and because it is an official GMAT question, I cannot regard this as poor question stem too. Can you please help clarify the same.

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The conclusion says that if the farmers sell outside in the world, they would make a dollar - expenses more.

Option (C)
Saying that expenses could come up to be almost to a dollar doesn't weaken it. If expenses are $0.9, the farmers will make $0.1 extra. If expenses are $0.95, farmers will make $0.05 extra. The conclusion stays as is.

Option (B)
But what if selling outside reduces the extra dollar that is the difference in the price? Then the extra amount may not be 1 - Expenses.
There is no reason to believe that the Govt. would change their price. The option doesn't indicate anything about that.
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(B) Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
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doesn't this answer choice depend on the assumption that the government's purchasing of wheat is fixed? Else, despite the world's prices decreasing, the government will always pay 1$ less? Thus, this will strengthen the argument?

Isn't this assumption a stretch? Or am I missing something here?


DinoPen - We don't need to get into "what if" situations. We are given that sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat. It doesn't say anything about what the Govt will do thereafter. So for our purpose we assume that status quo is maintained. We are not given that the Govt price is pegged to the world price and moves with it.
So option (B) does weaken the argument.

Yes, the Govt could reduce its own buying price too but if it does, we need to be given that. That will then weaken the weakener.
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KarishmaB wrote:
gmatt1476 wrote:
Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.


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Farmers are paid 1$ less for wheat by Govt than world market price.

Conclusion: If they sold wheat outside, they will get 1$ more per bushel (minus any transportation and brokerage).

It is a conditional conclusion. We need to say what will happen if these farmers sold outside. We need to find a reason that says that if these farmers sell outside, they may NOT get (1$ - transportation etc) extra.

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.

Irrelevant. We are only discussing two diff sale prices.

B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.

Correct. If these farmers sold outside, price of wheat will go down. Then they may not get 1$ extra.

C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.

Doesn't matter. How much actual extra money they will make is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will make (1$ - transportation etc) extra. Whether it amounts to $0.9 or $0.0001, it is irrelevant.

D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.

Again irrelevant. Where they will sell in the world market doesn't matter. Perhaps the transportation cost will be 0.01$ per bushel, we don't know. Even if the transportation cost is very high, realise that it is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will get ($1 - transportation) extra. Even if this becomes negative, the conclusion still holds. The transportation cost is a variable and could take any value without changing the conclusion. The problem is with $1. If that changes, then the conclusion will not hold. Option (B) clearly says that the extra margin of $1 may not be available if these farmers tried to sell outside. So it weakens our conclusion.

E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.

Again, cost of production is irrelevant. We are taking about what the govt pays them for wheat and what they can get outside in the world market. The argument clearly says that the Govt pays them a dollar less than what they would get outside. Those are the two prices we need to compare.

Answer (B)


I want clarification on one thing. The following statement: government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market
If the price in the world market would depress as stated in option B, suppose it's $7, then according to the statement I have re-written and underlined above, govt will pay to farmers $6. So the farmers are still earning a dollar per bushel more than they would have earned if they sold their crops to govt. How is option B correct that way?
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We are not given that Govt. price is pegged to the world price. Currently, the Govt is giving $1 less than the world price. If the world price reduces, the Govt is not required to reduce its own price too. It may reduce, may keep same, may increase - we know nothing about how it will react. Hence if the world price depresses, it does bring our conclusion into question - will the farmer still get ($1 - transportation) etc? We don't know.
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KarishmaB wrote:
gmatt1476 wrote:
Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.


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Farmers are paid 1$ less for wheat by Govt than world market price.

Conclusion: If they sold wheat outside, they will get 1$ more per bushel (minus any transportation and brokerage).

It is a conditional conclusion. We need to say what will happen if these farmers sold outside. We need to find a reason that says that if these farmers sell outside, they may NOT get (1$ - transportation etc) extra.

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.

Irrelevant. We are only discussing two diff sale prices.

B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.

Correct. If these farmers sold outside, price of wheat will go down. Then they may not get 1$ extra.

C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.

Doesn't matter. How much actual extra money they will make is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will make (1$ - transportation etc) extra. Whether it amounts to $0.9 or $0.0001, it is irrelevant.

D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.

Again irrelevant. Where they will sell in the world market doesn't matter. Perhaps the transportation cost will be 0.01$ per bushel, we don't know. Even if the transportation cost is very high, realise that it is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will get ($1 - transportation) extra. Even if this becomes negative, the conclusion still holds. The transportation cost is a variable and could take any value without changing the conclusion. The problem is with $1. If that changes, then the conclusion will not hold. Option (B) clearly says that the extra margin of $1 may not be available if these farmers tried to sell outside. So it weakens our conclusion.

E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.

Again, cost of production is irrelevant. We are taking about what the govt pays them for wheat and what they can get outside in the world market. The argument clearly says that the Govt pays them a dollar less than what they would get outside. Those are the two prices we need to compare.

Answer (B)


Hi Karishma,
I have a doubt in B:
Even if the price in world market went down because of sale of Suriland’s crop ($22 to $20) how can we assume that Suriland’s government will not decrease the price ($21 to $19)

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Let me ask you the flip question - how can we assume that the Govt will decrease the price? We are not given that the Govt sets its pricing as per world pricing. Until and unless we are given that 2 things are connected, we shouldn't worry that they may be. When we are asked to evaluate the impact of a particular change, it is assumed that everything else stays the same.
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GMATNinja, could you please help with answer choice E? I do understand that it is somehow weaker than answer choice B, but still can't fully accept it.

Thank you.

The unfortunate fact for wheat farmers in Suriland is that the government always pays a dollar below the world market price. If the world price dips down, then the government price dips down $1 lower.

So, even if (E) were true, the farmers would make more money (or at least lose less money) on the world market than by selling wheat to the government.

(E) doesn't weaken the argument that the farmers would make a dollar more on the world market, so we can eliminate (E).

I hope that helps!­
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amoljain wrote:

Hello Expert,

In option B, the language says that "Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat." If we see only the market as a stand-alone entity, then yes, this statement will be diminishing the profit percentage of the farmer over what is being said in the statement. However, we are comparing the price farmer will be getting from the world market as opposed to the government. In this case, as we do not know what will be the price government will be issuing to buy off the crop, we cannot compare if the farmer will be getting $1 minus the transportation or not. Said that, if the government is paying a dollar less right now, the government may as well as pay a dollar less in respect to the market price, whatever it may be. In this case, our reasoning falls apart.

However, if we consider option C, which clearly states that although the world market is paying a dollar extra in absolute cost, the overheads match the net profit of the farmers to what the government is paying; farmers would have no reason to go and sell the crop in the world market. This is assuming that the inferred conclusion of the passage is infact that the farmers are willing to export to gain higher profit.

I am very confused as to the right reasoning to mark the answer correctly, and because it is an official GMAT question, I cannot regard this as poor question stem too. Can you please help clarify the same.

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The conclusion says that if the farmers sell outside in the world, they would make a dollar - expenses more.

Option (C)
Saying that expenses could come up to be almost to a dollar doesn't weaken it. If expenses are $0.9, the farmers will make $0.1 extra. If expenses are $0.95, farmers will make $0.05 extra. The conclusion stays as is.

Option (B)
But what if selling outside reduces the extra dollar that is the difference in the price?
Then the extra amount may not be 1 - Expenses.
There is no reason to believe that the Govt. would change their price. The option doesn't indicate anything about that.


Hi VeritasKarishma,

Thank you for your explanation. However, I am still confused with the reasoning. We have a premise that selling price to the government always $1 less than world price, and so even when the world price drops because of overwhelming supply, world price is always $1 higher than local price. Hence, farmers still get ($1 - additional expense) more if they sell to world market than if they sell to the government. and the conclusion still stands.

Would you please help to clarify this? Thank you.


We are not given that the Govt will always give 1$ less than the world price at that time.

What we know is that currently, say the Govt gives $10 per bushel while in the world market we get $11 per bushel.
If the farmers start selling outside, the extra supply in the world market may bring down the price of wheat. So outside, we may start getting $10 per bushel.
In fact, if the supply to the Govt reduces, the Govt may start paying more for wheat, we don't know.
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tinbq wrote:
VeritasKarishma wrote:

We are not given that the Govt will always give 1$ less than the world price at that time.

What we know is that currently, say the Govt gives $10 per bushel while in the world market we get $11 per bushel.
If the farmers start selling outside, the extra supply in the world market may bring down the price of wheat. So outside, we may start getting $10 per bushel.
In fact, if the supply to the Govt reduces, the Govt may start paying more for wheat, we don't know.


Hi VeritasKarishma,

I also think that the reason above is more reasonable. But OG confuses me with its official explanation in option E.

"Note that the government's price for wheat is pegged to the world market, so the price the world market offers and the price the government offers will always differ by the exact same amount: the government pays one dollar less."

Is this an error from GMAC? LoL

Cheers,


Compared with the kind of thought that is put into making the official questions, the explanations fall short by a big margin. It's alright to ignore the official explanations. Derive your own logic from what is reasonable.
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Vegita wrote:
KarishmaB

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B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.

Correct. If these farmers sold outside, price of wheat will go down. Then they may not get 1$ extra.


It seems like the correct option weakens only a part of the main conclusion which is getting an extra dollar. How does it weaken the rest of the part which says "..minus any transportation and brokerage"?


Vegita

To weaken a conclusion, we do not need to say that everything it says is false. Even if we establish that one aspect may not be true, it is enough to weaken it.

Take a simpler example:
Conclusion: A and B will visit the mall today.

Statement: B has a project delivery today and will be in office till 12 midnight.

This statement weakens our conclusion. The conclusions says A and B will visit. The statement says that B is unlikely to visit. So it weakens our conclusion even if it doesn't say anything about A.


The conclusion is that they will get

$1 - Extra Expenses (transportation and brokerage)

more.

What is this conclusion based on? That world market buys at a price higher than Govt by $1. So by selling outside, farmer will get that $1 extra (minus extra expenses of selling to the world market).

How do we weaken it? By showing that farmers may not get ($1 - expenses ) extra when they sell to the world market. If selling outside to world market will depress the prices (say by $0.5), farmers will not get ($1 - expenses ) extra. They will get say ($0.5 - expenses ) extra etc. It will depend on how much the prices are depressed but the extra earning may not be ($1 - expenses ). The conclusion is weakened.
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BLTN wrote:
Dear GMATNinja,
I have alike question and read your explanation, thanks for detailed answer.
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When Suriland’s wheat farmers move to sell on the world market, the world market will change, and the price of wheat will likely decrease. So, let’s say that the current price of wheat on the world market is $100 per bushel. Then, Suriland farmers are paid $99 per bushel. BUT when the Suriland farmers join the world market, the price of wheat drops to $80 per bushel. Now, Suriland farmers earn $80 (less any transportation costs) per bushel. So, the farmers do not actually earn more. Let’s keep (B).

But, the argument mentioned nothing about Profit. The conclusion clearly states that
Quote:
if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less....

Taking into consideration that the government pays farmers a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market, we can infer that price will always be X+1$ for Export and X-1$ for sale to Government.

Thus, whatever price is the conclusion will always hold true. In this case, how B can weaken?

Thank you in advance, Charles.

To address your concern, let's take a look at the exact conclusion:
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Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.

What does the argument mean by "a dollar per bushel more?" Does it mean a dollar per bushel more than they currently make? Or does it mean it mean a dollar per bushel more than they would get if they sold to the government?

Well, let's consider the implications of the second interpretation. If that were the correct interpretation, then the argument would basically be impossible to weaken. In fact, it wouldn't really be an argument so much as a restatement of the original facts.

Put another way: if the government pays a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market, then selling to world market would always pay one dollar per bushel more than selling to the government. That's a circular statement, not a conclusion. And for that reason, it makes more sense to assume the argument means to say the farmers would earn one dollar more than they currently make if they sold on the world market.

In that case, if the world price dropped, farmers wouldn't make a dollar more than they currently make. As per our example above, they might make $80 per bushel instead of $99. Since that would weaken the argument, (B) is correct.

I hope that helps!­
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jabhatta2 wrote:
KarishmaB wrote:
Stanindaw wrote:
Hi Karishma,
I have a doubt in B:
Even if the price in world market went down because of sale of Suriland’s crop ($22 to $20) how can we assume that Suriland’s government will not decrease the price ($21 to $19)

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Let me ask you the flip question - how can we assume that the Govt will decrease the price? We are not given that the Govt sets its pricing as per world pricing. Until and unless we are given that 2 things are connected, we shouldn't worry that they may be. When we are asked to evaluate the impact of a particular change, it is assumed that everything else stays the same.


Hi KarishmaB – If i could gently push back - we are given the yellow

The premise states

Quote:
“Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market


The premise in the purple implies that if world prices drop (say from 22 $ to 15 $) – the govt prices will also drop accordingly (21 $ to now 14 $), no ?


No, what you suggest is not implied. Let's read again:

Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market.

Suriland produces just enough wheat for itself. It cannot do both - export as well as support itself.
Hence, the farmers are required to sell to their own govt only.
But their own govt is paying them a dollar less than the price on the world market.

It doesn't not imply that Govt is setting its prices as per the world market. Just that currently the govt is paying a dollar less than the world market.
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Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.


But question says the famers would get $1 less than the world market price, meaning if they sold outside and price reduces then the government will pay $1 less than the new world market price. Why have we assumed that the government is paying $1 less only at current rate? Where I am coming from it appears the $1 difference will remain, irrespective of world market price.

Please help

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­@craghav1985 Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. If farmers sell wheat worldwide (exporting) , Suriland won't be able to keep bread affordable. The government won't be able to pay a dollar less in this case. 
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gmatt1476 wrote:
Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. Accordingly, Suriland's wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.


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Farmers are paid 1$ less for wheat by Govt than world market price.

Conclusion: If they sold wheat outside, they will get 1$ more per bushel (minus any transportation and brokerage).

It is a conditional conclusion. We need to say what will happen if these farmers sold outside. We need to find a reason that says that if these farmers sell outside, they may NOT get (1$ - transportation etc) extra.

A. Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.

Irrelevant. We are only discussing two diff sale prices.

B. Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.

Correct. If these farmers sold outside, price of wheat will go down. Then they may not get 1$ extra.

C. The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.

Doesn't matter. How much actual extra money they will make is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will make (1$ - transportation etc) extra. Whether it amounts to $0.9 or $0.0001, it is irrelevant.

D. Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.

Again irrelevant. Where they will sell in the world market doesn't matter. Perhaps the transportation cost will be 0.01$ per bushel, we don't know. Even if the transportation cost is very high, realise that it is irrelevant. The conclusion only says that they will get ($1 - transportation) extra. Even if this becomes negative, the conclusion still holds. The transportation cost is a variable and could take any value without changing the conclusion. The problem is with $1. If that changes, then the conclusion will not hold. Option (B) clearly says that the extra margin of $1 may not be available if these farmers tried to sell outside. So it weakens our conclusion.

E. The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.

Again, cost of production is irrelevant. We are taking about what the govt pays them for wheat and what they can get outside in the world market. The argument clearly says that the Govt pays them a dollar less than what they would get outside. Those are the two prices we need to compare.

Answer (B)

Dear
VeritasKarishma
i think this answer is flawed.
Suppose wheat price in world market 1.1 dollar
farmers selling to Govt is 0.1 dollar
If farmers sold all wheat they may get 1.1 dollar
as per Ans B-
If all wheat is sold outside the price may go down to 1.09 dollar or 1.08 dollar or anything , but still the farmers can make profit.
so how we can conclude that seeling all wheat will lower the price to such an extent that it will be nonprofitable.
Please explain ...
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The Story

Suriland cannot both export wheat and keep bread plentiful and affordable in Suriland. - Suriland has to compromise on one of two fronts. If the country exports wheat, bread would no longer remain abundant and affordable locally. If it keeps enough bread for local consumption, the country would not be able to export wheat.

Accordingly, Suriland’s wheat farmers are required to sell their crop to the government, which pays them a dollar per bushel less than the price on the world market. - Farmers are required to sell wheat to the government – and that too at a price cheaper than the price on the world market. The word ‘accordingly’ indicates this requirement is due to the constraint mentioned in the first statement.

Therefore, if the farmers could sell their wheat on the world market, they would make a dollar per bushel more, less any additional transportation and brokerage costs they would have to pay. - If the farmers were not bound to sell to the government, they would make one dollar more per bushel (less the additional costs).

Gist: The government requires farmers to sell wheat to it at $1/ bushel less than the world market price (support), If the farmers could sell on the world market, they would make $1/ bushel more than they currently do, less the additional costs (conclusion).

The Gap

The argument assumes that if the farmers could sell on the world market, they would. There are a few underlying assumptions here:

    1. Of their government and the world market, the farmers will sell to whoever pays them a higher price.
    2. The selling price of wheat on the world market will remain higher than the price at which the government buys from the farmers.
    3. The additional costs will not go beyond the additional revenue they’d generate on the world market.

The Goal

Taking some of the assumptions one step further:

  • What if the farmers, in the best interest of their country, wish to continue selling to the government?
  • What if the additional costs per bushel were higher than a dollar, disincentivizing the farmers from selling on the world market?

The usual caveat: there could be other assumptions and other ways to attack the assumptions.

The Evaluation

(A) Suriland's wheat farmers have higher production costs than do farmers in many other wheat-producing countries.
Incorrect. The argument deals with whether the farmers would make the additional dollar (less costs) per bushel if they were allowed to sell on the world market. How these farmers’ production costs compare with farmers from other countries has no bearing on the argument.

(B) Sale of a substantial proportion of Suriland's wheat crop on the world market would probably depress the price of wheat.
Correct
. In the hypothetical scenario, if farmers sold a substantial proportion of wheat crop on the world market, wheat’s price would likely decrease. If wheat’s price did decrease, farmers would no longer make $1/ bushel more (less additional costs) than what they made when their government was paying them on exporting wheat. They’d earn according to the new, reduced price of wheat.

(C) The transportation and brokerage costs that Suriland's farmers would face if they sold their wheat outside Suriland could amount to almost a dollar per bushel.
Incorrect. The costs ‘could’ amount to ‘almost a dollar’ → the additional costs would still remain less than a dollar. So, the farmers would still make a higher revenue on selling the wheat on the world market. While, the closer the costs are to one dollar, the lower the incentive of farmers to go to the world market, as long as the farmers still make more money, they would have the added incentive to sell outside.

(D) Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat.
Incorrect. What are the transportation costs associated with exporting to countries that do import wheat from Suriland? Do none of the countries around Suriland import wheat? Just ‘cause Suriland is surrounded by countries that do not import any wheat, doesn’t necessarily mean that all surrounding countries do not import any wheat. (I am surrounded by geniuses doesn’t imply everyone surrounding me is a genius.) Moreover, do none of the not-so-near countries import wheat? Doesn’t seem so, given the argument. Thus, while this piece of information might indicate that the additional transportation costs would not be miniscule, the option at best just mildly weakens the argument.

(E) The price of a bushel of wheat on the world market occasionally drops below the average cost of producing a bushel of wheat in Suriland.
Incorrect. How the price on the world market compares with the cost of production is irrelevant. The government pays $1 less than the world market price. So, if the farmers could sell on the world market, they still would – after all, they’d at least make a smaller loss selling on the world market than they would selling to their government.


If you have any doubts regarding any part of this solution, please feel free to ask.



Can't we say that in option A- if the production cost is higher than the production cost in other parts, so in the wheat market,the farmers would not get the desired price and the govt. is already buying on more than the price on world market.

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GMATNinja, could you please help with answer choice E? I do understand that it is somehow weaker than answer choice B, but still can't fully accept it.

Thank you.
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