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That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception: Economist Steven Levitt's analysis of the financial records of a Chicago gang showed that most street dealers actually earned less than minimum wage.

A) That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception
B) The fact that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a popular misconception
C) It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics
D) It seems that it is no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers who sell narcotics make a fortune doing so
E) That all drug dealers make a fortune at selling narcotics seems no more than popularly misconceived
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New post 20 Jun 2014, 10:27
i marked B in this SC and honestly i do not find anything wrong with B
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i marked B in this SC and honestly i do not find anything wrong with B


The problem with option B is the use of The fact and misconception at the same time. drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics cannot be a fact if it is a misconception. Facts are undisputed, so there is no chance of misconception.
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That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception: Economist Steven Levitt's analysis of the financial records of a Chicago gang showed that most street dealers actually earned less than minimum wage.

A) That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception
B) The fact that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a popular misconception
C) It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics
D) It seems that it is no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers who sell narcotics make a fortune doing so
E) That all drug dealers make a fortune at selling narcotics seems no more than popularly misconceived

Dear aditya8062 & prasun9,
I am happy to respond to aditya8062's p.m.

I don't think this is the best question. Choices (A) & (D) & (E) are clearly out. There's no flaw in (C), so certainly that works as an answer. As to prasun9's explanation about why (B) is wrong: that's far more picayune that the GMAT SC gets. Yes, technically, a "fact" can't be a "misconception," but in practice, there are many many idea that large segments of the population would consider and treat as "facts" that actually are misconceptions. If know that X is not true, but person A is convinced that X is a fact, then in speaking to A, I might say, "The fact of A is a misconception." In other words, the thing you, Mr. A, think is a fact is actually a misconception. That would be a perfectly natural thing to say, so this is not a clear valid reason for dismissing (B), and other than that, there is no good reason to dismiss (B). This is a poorly written question.

That's my two cents.
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That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception: Economist Steven Levitt's analysis of the financial records of a Chicago gang showed that most street dealers actually earned less than minimum wage.

A) That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception
B) The fact that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a popular misconception
C) It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics
D) It seems that it is no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers who sell narcotics make a fortune doing so
E) That all drug dealers make a fortune at selling narcotics seems no more than popularly misconceived

Dear aditya8062 & prasun9,
I am happy to respond to aditya8062's p.m.

I don't think this is the best question. Choices (A) & (D) & (E) are clearly out. There's no flaw in (C), so certainly that works as an answer. As to prasun9's explanation about why (B) is wrong: that's far more picayune that the GMAT SC gets. Yes, technically, a "fact" can't be a "misconception," but in practice, there are many many idea that large segments of the population would consider and treat as "facts" that actually are misconceptions. If know that X is not true, but person A is convinced that X is a fact, then in speaking to A, I might say, "The fact of A is a misconception." In other words, the thing you, Mr. A, think is a fact is actually a misconception. That would be a perfectly natural thing to say, so this is not a clear valid reason for dismissing (B), and other than that, there is no good reason to dismiss (B). This is a poorly written question.

That's my two cents.
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Thanks Mike for the explanation, but I still think A fact cannot be a misconception. Since I am no expert I got confused after reading your explanation.
But when I looked for the question online, I found that the question is from The Economist
https://gmat.economist.com/gmat-practice-question/9105f/sentence-correction-pronoun-questions-it
And to my delight the explanation at the link confirms my belief :)

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B. The fact that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a popular misconception
C. It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics


I'm more inclined toward B than toward C. However, B refers to "fact"--I doubt whether a fact can be considered misconception.
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That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception: Economist Steven Levitt's analysis of the financial records of a Chicago gang showed that most street dealers actually earned less than minimum wage.


A. That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception
B. The fact that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a popular misconception
C. It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics
D. It seems that it is no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers who sell narcotics make a fortune doing so
E. That all drug dealers make a fortune at selling narcotics seems no more than popularly misconceived


A good one right? For me pretty though, but one should consider the following before answering the question:

The verb + relative clause seems that ... cannot logically follow anything except an it subject, or it creates a grammatical redundancy:

Incorrect: Something seems that it is not right

Incorrect: John seems that he is sad
Correct: It seems that John is sad (It subject)
Correct: John seems to be sad. (John is the subject)

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That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception: Economist Steven Levitt's analysis of the financial records of a Chicago gang showed that most street dealers actually earned less than minimum wage.


A. That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception
B. The fact that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a popular misconception
C. It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics
D. It seems that it is no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers who sell narcotics make a fortune doing so
E. That all drug dealers make a fortune at selling narcotics seems no more than popularly misconceived



Official Explanation:

AC A:
This answer choice is grammatically incorrect and non-idiomatic. The verb + relative clause seems that ... cannot logically follow anything except an it subject, or it creates a grammatical redundancy:

Incorrect: Something seems that it is not right

Incorrect: John seems that he is sad
Correct: It seems that John is sad (It subject)
Correct: John seems to be sad. (John is the subject)

However, in this sentence the subject is (the idea) That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics.

AC B:
While this answer choice corrects the grammatical mistake in the original question, it is illogical and stylistically flawed. By adding the word fact the corrected sentence becomes illogical - something that seems to be a misconception cannot also be called a fact. Even if the sentence did make sense, the addition of the fact makes the sentence wordy and redundant.

AC C:
This answer choice corrects the original grammatical mistake by adding an it subject before the verb seems and turning the original subject into a relative clause describing misconception. Note that while this answer choice is stylistically flawed (the words to be are redundant), it is still the best answer choice.

AC D:
While grammatically correct, this answer choice is stylistically flawed. The phrases that it is, who sell narcotics, and doing so are wordy and redundant. There is an answer choice which conveys the same meaning in a more concise way. Find it.

AC E:
While this answer choice corrects the original grammatical mistake, it introduces a new one. The phrase no more than indicates a comparison, where both items compared should be grammatically parallel. However, the complex subject phrase (the idea) That all drug dealers make a fortune at selling narcotics is compared to the adjective phrase popularly misconceived.
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" seems to be " is the correct usage..when something pretends as if it were something else..

Only C has it.

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"seem to" is the correct idiom. That was the only fact that help me to come up with correct answer.
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Following the link provided in the forum, I found this to be the official explanation for choosing C as the best.

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Very good!
This answer choice corrects the original grammatical mistake by adding an it subject before the verb seems and turning the original subject into a relative clause describing misconception.
Note that while this answer choice is stylistically flawed (the words to be are redundant), it is still the best answer choice.


It looks as though C is the best of the available choices, if not the best, in view of the stylistic flaw of redundancy. It will be interesting to explore whether stylistic flaws have been tolerated in official GMAT questions.

Another amusing factor is that the whole perception of the Economist who proposed this hypothesis seems to be based on the financial records of a drug-peddling gang. The glaring question is which gang will maintain genuine financial records for such illegal activities as narcotic dealings? Although this premise is not part of the error area, still the misconception itself is arising from this fallacy. So it may be that it is not a misconception after all, but a reality
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Isn't "seems to be" idiomatic? Thats why it was a clear C to me.
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The author himself admits that 'seems to be' is unidiomatic.
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Isn't "seems to be" idiomatic? Thats why it was a clear C to me.

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The author himself admits that 'seems to be' is unidiomatic.

noTh1ng and daagh,
I would say that, in and of itself, "seems to be" is perfectly correct and idiomatic. For example, it's fine in the construction:
Obama seems to be concerned that X.
It's very direct and clear in that construction. By contrast,
It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics . . .
This is getting a bit long and unwieldy, although it's not clear that there is a better way to say it.
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That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception: Economist Steven Levitt's analysis of the financial records of a Chicago gang showed that most street dealers actually earned less than minimum wage.

A) That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception
B) The fact that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a popular misconception
C) It seems to be no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics
D) It seems that it is no more than a popular misconception that all drug dealers who sell narcotics make a fortune doing so
E) That all drug dealers make a fortune at selling narcotics seems no more than popularly misconceived


nice question. I missed this one, which is similar to og question (educator at fault)
the problem here is that

it seems that clause
it seems to be something.
in both cases, "it" is fake subject
something seem to be something

3 cases are the correct patterns. (do not read grammar books for this point because grammar books say little of this). end of story. this is all for "seem' and "that "clause.

something seems something
is incorrect pattern.

this is still meaning/logic point but is more close to pattern and grammar points.

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oh what a brilliant trap!
I chose B, but now I see what's wrong with it...
fact is a misconception - ai ai ai!
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Could you please explain why option a is not correct?
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Could you please explain why option a is not correct?

Dear VKat,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

My friend, I am not sure how strong your command of English is, but for most native speakers, (A) sounds jarringly wrong:
That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems that it is no more than a popular misconception

You see, it would be natural-sounding to say either:
1) That all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics seems no more than a misconception
or
2) It seems no more than a misconception that all drug dealers make a fortune selling narcotics
As a general rule, it's extremely awkward to have a "that" clause both before and after "seems." That's a general guideline, not a 100% rule.
In particular, I have trouble imagining any construction that wouldn't sound awkward with "X seems that it is Y," because I think in every case we could simply say "X seems Y."

Ideally, you would develop your English skills to the point at which this answer choice would sound jarringly wrong right away. I'm going to recommend this blog article:
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Does all this make sense?
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Hey,
I only have one doubt regarding the use of colon. In this case it seems the phrase after de colon explains the popular misconception. If that's the case, shouldn't the correct version have "popular misconception" just before the colon?
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