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But I thought the present perfect tense should be used here. The action 'anticipate' occurred in the past, furthermore, the sentence has one of the example which also occurred in the past.

Pls help. I always have problem understanding questions regarding tenses.


hi,
there is one verb ARE which is correct as we are talking of todays educator..
But I think where you are going wrong is taking anticipate as a verb..
'anticipating' here is a GERUND and "not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said. " is an OBJECT of preposition FOR..
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I think choice A and B are wrong not because of the use clauses as subjects, but because of other reasons. Uses of clauses that have their own verbs are acceptable in Grammar. See the following link for an understanding of this theme.
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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault: Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault --- That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology--- is a subject clause and can hardly be said is the verb; So nothing wrong about that. However, what does the word ‘stand’ for? There is no precise referent for the pronoun ‘it’

(B) that educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault --- Although this removes the problematic ‘it’, still we cannot say that a phenomenon of some people not anticipating is at fault.

(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology -- yet again the problem of a referent-less second ‘it’

(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology --- Good enough

(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said -- the same problem as in B., in addition, the ending is weird.
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When I review this question with students, I find the best way to think about it is to think of the following structure as an idiom:

"It's surprising that __________"

"It can hardly be said that ________"

"It's unfortunate but true that __________"

This construction is a particular type of English idiom that's used to avoid putting a very long, complicated clause at the beginning of a sentence. Given the choice, most of us native English speakers should prefer (1) to (2) below:

(1) It's unfortunate that Jordan and Lee unexpectedly divorced after five seemingly happy years of marriage. - Good
(2) That Jordan and Lee unexpectedly divorced after five seemingly happy years of marriage is unfortunate. - Weird

You might want to cross off (1) because the 'it' doesn't seem to refer to anything. However, that's because in this particular idiom, there's a 'hollow it' that doesn't refer to anything at all, and that's okay. The 'hollow it' shows up in other English sentences too, like "It's raining" or "It's going to be beautiful outside today."

Really, what I think is being tested in options (A) and (B) is whether you recognize the 'it can hardly be said that ______' idiom, and whether you know that it's better to keep an idiom in its normal form than to move the bits around.
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But I thought the present perfect tense should be used here. The action 'anticipate' occurred in the past, furthermore, the sentence has one of the example which also occurred in the past.

Context and meaning determine the tense usage. Hopefully it is clear that anticipate means predict/expect. From the sentence, it is very clear that educators were proven wrong because microcomputer technology did have a significant impact (which is something that educators did not anticipate). So, anticipation and proving wrong of that anticipation, all happened in the past. Hence, present perfect is not a valid tense.

Let’s look at an analogy that will hopefully ring bells.

Would we say:

i) Economists did not predict the great depression of 1930s (simple past)

Or would we say:

ii) Economists have not predicted the great depression of 1930s (present perfect)

It should be clear that ii) does not make any sense, since the prediction as well as the failure of that prediction (in this case great depression) all happened in the past. Hence, simple past should be used, not present perfect.
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But I thought the present perfect tense should be used here. The action 'anticipate' occurred in the past, furthermore, the sentence has one of the example which also occurred in the past.

Pls help. I always have problem understanding questions regarding tenses.


As you have anticipated, the usage of present perfect for "anticipate" would be correct. However the options (A, B and C) using present perfect have other serious grammatical issues.

In option D, using simple present for the verb "are" is correct since the educators are still at fault - the fact is a general truth.


Thank you very much. Per my understanding, we should eliminate other serious grammar mistakes first and left the tenses for last, is it right? I often see the grammar mistake to be very hard to recognize.


Tense errors are serious grammatical mistakes - it would not be appropriate to prioritize them low. Have you tried to understand the tense issues using a time line? The timeline approach helps clarify the concept of tense.

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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault: Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.


(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault
full part in bold is the subject here. the construction "SUBJECT + can hardly be said that it is their fault" is wrong and make no sense.

(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
same as A.

(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
wrong construction. we call it 'empty it'.

(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology

(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said
D wins over E due to brevity. E is wordy.
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HI ... I just have a quick question -
Answer D does seem right although one of the grammar rules I learnt was that a pronoun always needs an antecedent. In answer D, the pronoun 'It' has no antecedent.

What am I missing? Please help.

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(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology



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1. No. One can’t take the antecedence rule that rigidly. As may be seen, the antecedent always precedes the pronoun. However, in Choice D, the pronoun is starting a sentence. Obviously, we cannot have an antecedent. Can we therefore logically claim that all sentences that start with a pronoun are wrong? That is why we have to say that a pronoun must have either an antecedent or a postcedent, meaning that the referred noun appears later in the clause.

2. Again, there is a factor known as placeholder pronouns. Some pronouns that are used to start a sentence sometimes serve the purpose of filling up the flow of the clause, without any real value. This is an accepted norm in formal English.
Consider the following. It was reported in the TV that India would have sumptuous rains this year. – Here the word it has no particular antecedent or postcedent. Still, it is not a faulty sentence.
Another example will be: it is polled that the controversial presidential candidate is losing ground due to his antics in public platforms. What is the 'it' standing for? It has neither antecedence nor postcedence.

Similarly, the 'it' in choice D is a placeholder it. However, when the same pronoun is used in the middle of the sentence or at the end, then one has to be careful. The second it mostly will be required to have some reference in the form of a noun, either in the front or in the back.
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Wow thank you so much. This surely helps clear my concept! :)

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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault: Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault

(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology

(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology

(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said



D) => It is/was/seems ________+that clause
or It is /was/ seems ______to verb
Then it will not be treated as pronoun
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