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05 Oct 2014, 00:49
That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating of a 1,000-year-old Hohokam village in temple, Arizona, has nearly doubled the number of these artifacts known to exist.

The only issue is the subject of the sentence. Which subject can double the number of X. Obviously discover of Y. -> E) is the clear answer.

A. That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating
B. Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered at the excavating
C. Discovering twenty-one ceramic dog figurines at the excavating
D. Ceramic dog figurines,twenty-one of which were discovered during excavating
E. The discovery of twenty-one ceramic dog figurines during the excavation
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15 Aug 2015, 18:57
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12 Sep 2015, 02:12
if action noun exist, we use it, not doing as a noun

is this a message gmat want to send to us?

pls, help
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20 Jul 2016, 23:48
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That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating of a 1000 year old Hohokam village in Tempe, Arizona, has nearly doubled the number of these artifacts known to exists.

A. That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating
B. Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines discovered at the excavation
C. Discovering Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines at the excavating
D. Ceramic dog figurines, twenty-one of which were discovered during excavating
E. The discovery of twenty-one ceramic dog figurines during the excavation

ANSWER IS UNDISPUTED OPTION E

Look at the non underlined part, (which as per GMAT rule contains no error) and notice the linking verb "HAS"
(Linking verbs such as "IS" "HAS" "BE" "BEING" "WAS" etc etc show a relationship between the subject and the complement)
It clearly indicated that the complement must be singular because "has" is singular. SO the subject of the sentence CAN ONLY BE SINGULAR AND CANNOT BE PLURAL.
In all option A,B,C,D the subject is figurines, which is the plural of figure .... so none of them can be the correct options

In ONLY E in subject of the sentence is discovery which is singular and hence correctly links with "has"
A. That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating
WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT
B. Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines discovered at the excavation
WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT
C. Discovering Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines at the excavating
WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT

D. Ceramic dog figurines, twenty-one of which were discovered during excavating
WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT
E. The discovery of twenty-one ceramic dog figurines during the excavation
RIGHT Singular subject "discovery+singular linking verb "has"

The discovery of twenty-one ceramic dog figurines during the excavation of a 1000 year old Hohokam village in Tempe, Arizona, has nearly doubled the number of these artifacts known to exists.
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20 Jul 2016, 23:51
noboru wrote:
That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the
excavating
of a 1,000-year-old Hohokam village in Tempe, Arizona, has
nearly doubled the number of these artifacts known to exist.
A. That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating
B. Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines discovered at the excavation
C. Discovering twenty-one ceramic dog figurines at the excavating
D. Ceramic dog figurines, twenty-one of which were discovered during excavating
E. The discovery of twenty-one ceramic dog figurines during the excavation

OA is E. However, The problem I have with E is that I have always thought that "during" has to appear with a specific time. Ex.- during one year, during Prehistoric era, etc. and never in phrases such as I drank a lot during my birthday, or I will meet my cousin during holidays.
Could anybody clarify?

ANSWER IS AN UNDISPUTED E

THE ISSUE AT HAND IN THIS PROBLEM IS SUBJECT VERB AGREEMENT

Look at the non underlined part, (which as per GMAT rule contains no error) and notice the linking verb "HAS"
(Linking verbs such as "IS" "HAS" "BE" "BEING" "WAS" etc etc show a relationship between the subject and the complement)
It clearly indicated that the complement must be singular because "has" is singular. SO the subject of the sentence CAN ONLY BE SINGULAR AND CANNOT BE PLURAL.
In all option A,B,C,D the subject is figurines, which is the plural of figure .... so none of them can be the correct options

In ONLY E in subject of the sentence is discovery which is singular and hence correctly links with "has"
A. That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT
B. Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines discovered at the excavation WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT
C. Discovering Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines at the excavating WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT
D. Ceramic dog figurines, twenty-one of which were discovered during excavating WRONG SV - plural "figurines" + singular "has" INCORRECT
E. The discovery of twenty-one ceramic dog figurines during the excavation RIGHT Singular subject "discovery+singular linking verb "has"
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13 Aug 2017, 06:56
In option A .. "that twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating of a 1,000-year-old Hohokam village in Tempe, Arizona. Yes, this entire clause is the subject, and as it begins with "that" it's singular, agreeing with the verb "has." However, it's extraordinarily awkward to use such a long noun clause to begin a sentence. Furthermore, noun clauses rarely make sense as the subjects of transitive verbs, and are much more often the subjects of the verb "to be" than anything else. An example of a clear usage of a noun clause is this:

"That the problems are difficult is clear; what is interesting is how to answer them."

Both noun clauses ("that..." and "what...") are short and are the subject of the verb "to be" -- in the second part of the sentence, the first noun clause, "what...", is properly equated to another noun clause, "how...." Thus these are good sentences. The original one here, however, isn't ideal, and if there is a choice that uses a simple noun and modifiers instead of the long awkward noun clause to be the subject of "has doubled," as long as that choice makes no further errors, it will be the ideal choice.

Of the remaining choices, it's necessary to keep the subject singular, so that it agrees with the singular verb "has" that isn't underlined and therefore can't change. (B) and (D) both make the subject "figurines," which is plural, and therefore need to be eliminated.

(C) is awkward because gerunds are similar to noun clauses in that it's hard to make them logically the subject of transitive verbs -- was it really the act of "discovering" them? or rather the fact that they were discovered? -- and a noun, as in (E), would be far better. Furthermore, it's rarely correct to use a gerund after a preposition, so "at the excavating" in (C) should raise some eyebrows, while "during the excavation" in (E) is, again, far superior.
Thus (E) is the correct answer.
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13 Aug 2017, 06:58
In option A .. "that twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating of a 1,000-year-old Hohokam village in Tempe, Arizona." Yes, this entire clause is the subject, and as it begins with "that" it's singular, agreeing with the verb "has." However, it's extraordinarily awkward to use such a long noun clause to begin a sentence. Furthermore, noun clauses rarely make sense as the subjects of transitive verbs, and are much more often the subjects of the verb "to be" than anything else. An example of a clear usage of a noun clause is this:

"That the problems are difficult is clear; what is interesting is how to answer them."

Both noun clauses ("that..." and "what...") are short and are the subject of the verb "to be" -- in the second part of the sentence, the first noun clause, "what...", is properly equated to another noun clause, "how...." Thus these are good sentences. The original one here, however, isn't ideal, and if there is a choice that uses a simple noun and modifiers instead of the long awkward noun clause to be the subject of "has doubled," as long as that choice makes no further errors, it will be the ideal choice.

Of the remaining choices, it's necessary to keep the subject singular, so that it agrees with the singular verb "has" that isn't underlined and therefore can't change. (B) and (D) both make the subject "figurines," which is plural, and therefore need to be eliminated.

(C) is awkward because gerunds are similar to noun clauses in that it's hard to make them logically the subject of transitive verbs -- was it really the act of "discovering" them? or rather the fact that they were discovered? -- and a noun, as in (E), would be far better. Furthermore, it's rarely correct to use a gerund after a preposition, so "at the excavating" in (C) should raise some eyebrows, while "during the excavation" in (E) is, again, far superior.
Thus (E) is the correct answer.
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In option A .. "that twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating of a 1,000-year-old Hohokam village in Tempe, Arizona. Yes, this entire clause is the subject, and as it begins with "that" it's singular, agreeing with the verb "has." However, it's extraordinarily awkward to use such a long noun clause to begin a sentence. Furthermore, noun clauses rarely make sense as the subjects of transitive verbs, and are much more often the subjects of the verb "to be" than anything else. An example of a clear usage of a noun clause is this:

"That the problems are difficult is clear; what is interesting is how to answer them."

Both noun clauses ("that..." and "what...") are short and are the subject of the verb "to be" -- in the second part of the sentence, the first noun clause, "what...", is properly equated to another noun clause, "how...." Thus these are good sentences. The original one here, however, isn't ideal, and if there is a choice that uses a simple noun and modifiers instead of the long awkward noun clause to be the subject of "has doubled," as long as that choice makes no further errors, it will be the ideal choice.

Of the remaining choices, it's necessary to keep the subject singular, so that it agrees with the singular verb "has" that isn't underlined and therefore can't change. (B) and (D) both make the subject "figurines," which is plural, and therefore need to be eliminated.

(C) is awkward because gerunds are similar to noun clauses in that it's hard to make them logically the subject of transitive verbs -- was it really the act of "discovering" them? or rather the fact that they were discovered? -- and a noun, as in (E), would be far better. Furthermore, it's rarely correct to use a gerund after a preposition, so "at the excavating" in (C) should raise some eyebrows, while "during the excavation" in (E) is, again, far superior.
Thus (E) is the correct answer.

your posting is rich, offering many ideas. honestly, I dont know whether the ideas are correct. but I appreciate your ideas.
I want you to write more on those ideas.

is is correct that preposition is seldom used before a gerund. I dont know why, can you write more on this point.
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there is a point here, the difference between action noun and doing

Ron said that we should use action noun, not doing when action noun exist. doing is used when there is no action noun.

look at the point another way, if there is action noun, doing working as a noun dose not exist.

we do not discuss doing working as an adjective now.
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13 Aug 2017, 09:09
The sentence asks for something that has nearly doubled the number of artifacts.

Clearly, the DISCOVERY of artifacts has done it....

And, excavation is correct form of verb to be used here.

so E is the answer
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That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating of a 1,000-year-old Hohokam village in temple, Arizona, has nearly doubled the number of these artifacts known to exist.
• A That twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered during the excavating
• B Twenty-one ceramic dog figurines were discovered at the excavating
• C Discovering twenty-one ceramic dog figurines at the excavating
• D Ceramic dog figurines, twenty-one of which were discovered during excavating
• E The discovery of twenty-one ceramic dog figurines during the excavation

OA:E

I know that the OA should be E, because the subject-verb agreement. But I want to know why the "discovery" can be the subject of the "double"?
Could you guys help to explain the usage of "double"? Thanks!
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27 Mar 2018, 01:19
POE 1: “Has discovered” ,in the non-underline part makes the subject singular. Therefore, A (were), B, & D(Ceramic dog figurines) are out.
POE 2: Excavating Vs. Excavation. Excavating is unidiomatic. Hence, A, C & D out,
Also, The discovery of Blah blah, has nearly doubled the numbers not anything else as mentioned in the question. others dont make sense.
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