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the answer is c , i choose it because in all other options the pronoun you don't have any antecedent .
if i am wrong, please correct me

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The Academia Sectrorum Naturae, the first scientific community, was founded in 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission.

A. 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission
Wrong. Parallelism problem: "and" is parallel marker, but "was founded in 1950" and "in order to be included in membership" are NOT parallel.

B. 1560, and included a prerequisite for admission: in order to be included, you had to have made the discovery of a new law of nature
Wrong. The usage of colon ":" means you're explaining for something ==> Present simple tense is enough. But in B, "you had to" means past tense. Hence, B is wrong.

C. 1560 with a prerequisite for admission: the discovery of a new law of nature
Correct.
"with a prerequisite ...." just modifies the subject "The Academia Sectrorum Nature". Does not change meaning.
After a colon ":", you can use noun/noun phrase/clause. Because the part after the colon is just an explanation for something before the colon.
Other example: Medication X was initiated in 1990 with the main purpose: helping human being live longer.

D. the year 1560, including the prerequisite that to be admitted, you needed to have discovered a new law of nature
Wrong.
"the year 1560" is wordy, "in 1560" is enough.
" including the prerequisite that to be admitted" is not grammatical;
"you needed to have discovered" is bad grammar.

E. 1560 with the rule that in order to be admitted for membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, that was the prerequisite
Wrong.
"you had" means past tense. But the sentence just wants to explain a rule in general, so present simple tense is better.
"that" refers to "a new law of nature" incorrectly.

Hope it helps.


What does 'with a...' modify? Previous clause or only subject of the previous clause? In the following link e-gmat says “with a five percent increase” non-sensically modifies the preceding clause.
https://e-gmat.com/blogs/the-results-of ... 6gmatprep/

I am confused!!
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Please explain why C is the correct choice? I think it lost the intended meaning. These facts are not so closely related and should be written in the form of independent clauses.

1. A community was founded
2. Criteria to be its member


What is wrong with choice A?

I found choice A better than c
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Please explain why C is the correct choice? I think it lost the intended meaning. These facts are not so closely related and should be written in the form of independent clauses.

1. A community was founded
2. Criteria to be its member


What is wrong with choice A?

I found choice A better than c


In A it appears that the rule is applicable only for "you", the person spoken to, not in general for anybody. Though in colloquial language, we often use such style, in official language such usage is not acceptable.

Moreover if an option uses fewer words to express the same idea, it is considered better.
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The Academia Sectrorum Naturae, the first scientific community, was founded in 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission.

A. 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission
B. 1560, and included a prerequisite for admission: in order to be included, you had to have made the discovery of a new law of nature
C. 1560 with a prerequisite for admission: the discovery of a new law of nature
D. the year 1560, including the prerequisite that to be admitted, you needed to have discovered a new law of nature
E. 1560 with the rule that in order to be admitted for membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, that was the prerequisite

By mentioning the word "prerequisite", the intent of the topic is that if one wants to be admitted into the ASN, then one must have already discovered something new. One cannot say that he will enter ASN and then discover something new in the following years.

A and E say "you had to discover' but not "had to have discovered". They are straight out. In C, the noun phrase after colon doesn't seem to make clear whether the new discovery is an already made one or it is going to be made later. Thus, it misses the intent of the issue.

The main contention is between B and D, and both seem to be good or bad; both use the conversational 'you', not seen in GMAT.

B abounds in jarring redundancies. D is wordy with the inclusion of 'the year 1560' rather than '1560'. However, in D, the verb+ing "including" is indeed an apt modifier in that it is an additional information to the main intent of revealing the timeline of the founding year of ASN. Perhaps D is the best among the lot.
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The Academia Sectrorum Naturae, the first scientific community, was founded in 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission.
A. 1560, and in order to be included in membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, a prerequisite for admission
B. 1560, and included a prerequisite for admission: in order to be included, you had to have made the discovery of a new law of nature
C. 1560 with a prerequisite for admission: the discovery of a new law of nature
D. the year 1560, including the prerequisite that to be admitted, you needed to have discovered a new law of nature
E. 1560 with the rule that in order to be admitted for membership, you had to discover a new law of nature, that was the prerequisite

OA after some discussion


Why C is better than B.
Because in B "founded" and "included" have the same weight - it is not right - "founded" is more important than "included"
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