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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.

(A) the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and

(B) the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the

(C) with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the

(D) with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and

(E) with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and
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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.

A the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and


Clear C for plural verb "derive" to match "alphabets" and so clause is next to Armaic script.

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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.

A the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and


I say C.

both x and y. D is incorrect b/c derive needs to be used when refering to both x and y. which causes verbs to become plural.

A: it, from which... the modifier appears to be modifying the empire of persia.
B: same problem as in A.
E: both x and y idiom is violated.

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going with D...it should be bringing with it

A - has a misplaced modifier - "from"
B - odd - "and from"
C - should be singular derive
E - again the usage of "and"

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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.

A the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and


Would go for C,

between A and C, choose C cuz "from which" refers to script not "Achaemenid empire".
Other choices sound awkward.

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going with D...it should be bringing with it

A - has a misplaced modifier - "from"
B - odd - "and from"
C - should be singular derive
E - again the usage of "and"


I am wrong it should be C. This is the case were the verb is placed before the the subject. If we flip it it would be

The northern and southern Indian alphabets which derive from the Aramaic script.

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In the following question:

The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.
A. the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B. the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C. with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D. with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E. with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

The doubt is in the phrase 'from which derive' or 'from which derives' as in choices C & D the verb derive is in simple present. Should it not be in the simple past as the action is already completed.

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Hi Experts,
In the following question:

The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.
A. the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B. the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C. with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D. with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E. with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

The doubt is in the phrase 'from which derive' or 'from which derives' as in choices C & D the verb derive is in simple present. Should it not be in the simple past as the action is already completed.


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Clear winner C, this and that makes the sub plural and justifies the usage of derive
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Even I'll go with C..

As mentioned by mailnavin1, the verb "derive" refers to "alphabets", a plural subject. Hence, C is correct !
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You guys are saying C? How does "from which derive both the northern and the" make any sense?

Should it not be E?

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I go with E. The alphabets did not derive by themselves. The Achaemenid empire of Persia derived those alphabets. Also, note the parallelism (bringing and deriving).
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I go with E. The alphabets did not derive by themselves. The Achaemenid empire of Persia derived those alphabets. Also, note the parallelism (bringing and deriving).


This really isn't a parallelism question because the Achaemenid empire is bringing. The achaemenid empire is not the one deriving, but rather the alphabets. The Achaemenid empire is not bringing and deriving at the same time.

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C) CORRECT.
"derive," a plural verb, correctly agrees with the plural subject "the Northern and the Southern Indian alphabets."

D) "derives," a singular verb, does not agree with the plural subject "Northern and Southern Indian alphabets."

E) The second pronoun "it" is ambiguous


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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.
A. the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B. the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C. with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D. with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E. with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

Some thoughts:
1. Subject Verb Reverse:
Some times subject and verbs are reversed.
Example:
Had I got the money, I would have helped the poor.
Clearly, We are between C and D.
The subject of the verb "derive" is both the northern and the southern India alphabets. So, the verb will be in plural, "derive".
Answer is D.
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OA is C

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Fistail wrote:
The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached the Indus Valley in the fifth century B.C., bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern India alphabets.

A the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
B the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
C with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
D with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
E with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and


Would go for C,

between A and C, choose C cuz "from which" refers to script not "Achaemenid empire".
Other choices sound awkward.


The northern and southern Indian alphabets derive from the Aramaic script.
In C Does n't it require auxiliary verb to be a clause....sth like The northern and southern Indian alphabets is derived from the Aramaic script.

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The Achaemenid empire of Persia reached in Indus valley in the fifth century B.C, bringing the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and southern Indian alphabets

i) the Aramaic script with it, from which was derived both northern and
ii) the Aramaic script with it, and from which deriving both the northern and the
iii) with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
iv) with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
v) with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

Please explain which answer is correct and why?
Why other answer choices are not correct

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D. What's the OA?

i) the Aramaic script with it ((what's it referring to? The script or the empire?)), from which was derived both northern and
ii) the Aramaic script with it ((what's it referring to? The script or the empire?)), and from which deriving both the northern and the

---the first 'it' refers to the empire---D) because script is singular, use derives
iii) with it the Aramaic script, from which derive both the northern and the
iv) with it the Aramaic script, from which derives both northern and
v) with it the Aramaic script, and deriving from it both the northern and

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Yeah I agree D looks best out of all.
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