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The city will lose more than one million dollars in much-needed revenue when the shopping center on Beacon Drive will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county.

A. will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county
B. closes sometime in the next year and moves to a different county
C. will close in the next year sometime and move to a different county
D. closes sometime in the next year and will move to a different county
E. will close sometime in the next year and then move to a different county
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The contruction is

"If X happens, Y will happen".

"If" is to impart sense of uncertainity. The same is "When" , that is we donnot know the exact time
of occurance of the event. The constuct remains ....

"When X happens, Y will happen".

But if you say,
"When X will happen, Y will happen" , you definitely loose the sense of uncertainity - isn't it ?

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The contruction is

"If X happens, Y will happen".

"If" is to impart sense of uncertainity. The same is "When" , that is we donnot know the exact time
of occurance of the event. The constuct remains ....

"When X happens, Y will happen".

But if you say,
"When X will happen, Y will happen" , you definitely loose the sense of uncertainity - isn't it ?

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I chose B.

"The city will lose more than one million dollars in much-needed revenue when the shopping center on Beacon Drive..."

That is a prediction into the future, so this means there has to be a basis for the claim. The original sentence adds "...will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county." The extra "will" is excessive and makes the sentence confusing.

B is more concise and yet addresses the basis for the future prediction.

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The simple present and consistency in tense are needed here. So, only B is the best answer choice :D.
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The city will lose more than one million dollars in much-needed revenue when the shopping center on Beacon Drive will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county.

(A) will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county
(B) closes sometime in the next year and moves to a different county
(C) will close in the next year sometime and move to a different county
(D) closes sometime in the next year and will move to a different county
(E) will close sometime in the next year and then move to a different county
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Did one of the free (for now ;)) GMATClub tests today and got this one wrong.

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This sentence requires the recognition that the word when creates a conditional tense that requires the (e)s form of the verb, and also that both verbs in the following phrase must use parallel form. The complete and correct verb phrase, without supporting words, should read: when the shopping center closes and moves.
Though the verbs in this option are parallel, they are not in the e(s) form required by the word when.


especially that part when creates a conditional tense that requires the (e)s form of the verb is new to me.

Please help.
Why is that?
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The city will lose more than one million dollars in much-needed revenue when the shopping center on Beacon Drive will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county.

(A) will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county
(B) closes sometime in the next year and moves to a different county
(C) will close in the next year sometime and move to a different county
(D) closes sometime in the next year and will move to a different county
(E) will close sometime in the next year and then move to a different county

can someone please help me with this one.

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The city will lose more than one million dollars in much-needed revenue when the shopping center on Beacon Drive will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county.

(A) will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county
(B) closes sometime in the next year and moves to a different county
(C) will close in the next year sometime and move to a different county
(D) closes sometime in the next year and will move to a different county
(E) will close sometime in the next year and then move to a different county

can someone please help me with this one.


I am not totally convinced on the use of when in this sentence. The sentence looks better with if


"The city will lose more than one million dollars in much-needed revenue when (If) the shopping center on Beacon Drive will close sometime in the next year and move to a different county.

One can see that sentence has a construction that If shopping center on beacon drive will close in next year then the city will lose more than one million dollars in revenue.

Note that the non underlined portion has then construction. And the general rule that I follow for If then construction is as follows

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So for then clause construction in Simple future tense, we can use Simple present tense in If clause. With this you are down to B and D. D is not parallel as the second verb "will move" on option D is not parallel to "closes"

Ans is B

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"When" makes sense here--the author is expressing certainty that the store will close and move. It's just like this . . .

"When I graduate from Stanford, I will get a job at Google."

except that the "when" and "will parts are swapped in order:

"I will get a job at Google when I graduate from Stanford."
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DmitryFarber wrote:
"When" makes sense here--the author is expressing certainty that the store will close and move. It's just like this . . .

"When I graduate from Stanford, I will get a job at Google."

except that the "when" and "will parts are swapped in order:

"I will get a job at Google when I graduate from Stanford."



Agreed. I thought that this will be questioned and I realised later that it makes sense...however do you think" if "will be

Better here or when is communicating the meaning in better way

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The meaning is simply different. "If" is used to describe a condition, while "when" is used to describe something that is going to happen. Since "when" is in the fixed part of the sentence, the author is telling us that the store will definitely close. Compare to this sentence:

"If you crash my car, you need to buy me a new one."

I highly doubt that you will crash my car--you don't even know where I live! I'm simply expressing the idea that if this were to happen, you would owe me.

If I said "When you crash my car," it would mean I was expecting you to crash it. Make sense?
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DmitryFarber wrote:
The meaning is simply different. "If" is used to describe a condition, while "when" is used to describe something that is going to happen. Since "when" is in the fixed part of the sentence, the author is telling us that the store will definitely close. Compare to this sentence:

"If you crash my car, you need to buy me a new one."

I highly doubt that you will crash my car--you don't even know where I live! I'm simply expressing the idea that if this were to happen, you would owe me.

If I said "When you crash my car," it would mean I was expecting you to crash it. Make sense?



Make sense definitely. Thank you for clarifying.
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DmitryFarber wrote:
"When" makes sense here--the author is expressing certainty that the store will close and move. It's just like this . . .

"When I graduate from Stanford, I will get a job at Google."

except that the "when" and "will parts are swapped in order:

"I will get a job at Google when I graduate from Stanford."



Still why is"will" wrong in option A
"I will get a job at Google when I will graduate from Stanford."
I will buy the book when I will go out tomorrow.

Is the use of will wrong or just redundant

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The answer should be B. The best way to tackle questions that test tenses is to draw a timeline and make sense of the sequence of events... also its a conditional statement. Something will happen if an event occurs...

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