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# The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a

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26 Jul 2018, 09:46
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The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply.

(A) unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply

(B) unsold goods were piling up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply

(C) unsold goods had piled up on store shelves with a sharp slowing of consumer spending

(D) consumer spending was slowing sharply, with the piling up of unsold goods on store shelves

(E) consumer spending has slowed sharply, with unsold goods piling up on store shelves

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Can you please throw more light on why Option D and E are wrong.

So we are talking of two SIMULTANEOUS actions. Thus the second action should parallel the first and should start the clause.
We can PARALLEL businesses with unsold goods, but businesses with consumer spending - may not be correct in the context here.
Although the verb tense is correct in D - was slowing, the sequence is not correct..
Unsold goods were piling up as consumer spending was slowing and not the other way as the choice D conveys. Consumer spending lowered with piling up of ...

Choice E is wrong in tense usage ..
Present perfect HAS is wrong and not PARALLEL with earlier verb.

Thank you so much chetan2u for throwing light on the "sequence" thing. Makes the whole point clear!

So, can I say that Option D is grammatically correct but logically doesn't convey the intended meaning?
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The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply.

I think there is a typo in the non-underlined portion of the sentence. Bunuel , will you please double check the OG? I'm guessing the "that" just needs to be removed.

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The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply.

I think there is a typo in the non-underlined portion of the sentence. Bunuel , will you please double check the OG? I'm guessing the "that" just needs to be removed.

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All source I have are identical and have "that" in them.
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GMATNinja GMATNinjaTwo Hey guys, can you please explain what "that" is doing in my sentence?
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with+noun+noun modifier can modify the main clause, showing reason, context or effect of the main clause. so, choice D is right.
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20 Nov 2018, 09:00
Are these three parallelisms option valid for the question?

Businesses should parallel with Consumers, not consumer spending.

Business production can parallel with consumer spending.

Business can parallel with unsold goods
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I chose option D because I though Businesses should be parallel with consumers but missed that consumers and consumer spending is not the same thing. However, unsold goods and businesses can be parallel is new to me. But somehow makes sense.
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25 Dec 2018, 08:27
I do not see any error in choice D
is this question from official source.
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The second "that" might feel a little bit unnecessary, but it's there to emphasize the parallelism:

"The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves..."

So the Commerce Department reported two things: (1) "that the nation's economy grew..." and (2) "that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves..." So the word "that" just subordinates the two clauses, and clarifies that both clauses are things that "the Commerce Department reported." Fair enough. (More on "that" in this article and this video.)

Perfectly explained. I understand now. Thanks GMATNinja !
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The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply.

(A) unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply

(B) unsold goods were piling up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply

(C) unsold goods had piled up on store shelves with a sharp slowing of consumer spending

(D) consumer spending was slowing sharply, with the piling up of unsold goods on store shelves

(E) consumer spending has slowed sharply, with unsold goods piling up on store shelves

Intent: While is used when simultaneous actions take place, said that 2 things were happening
businesses were expanding, unsold goods were pilling,and then the reason is given

With the intent in mind we can eliminate, D and E

(A) unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply
Rhetorical construction

(B) unsold goods were piling up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply
Only answer which matches the intent

(C) unsold goods had piled up on store shelves with a sharp slowing of consumer spending
Past perfect tense, not required here.
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Dear GMATNinja ,EMPOWERgmatVerbal

As for option A, if I change "is slowed" into "slowed", the sentence reads: "... while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply." Is this new version correct? If it is, the structure with "while" is not paralleled: while businesses + verb in past progressive, unsold goods + verb in simple past.

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Dear GMATNinja ,EMPOWERgmatVerbal

As for option A, if I change "is slowed" into "slowed", the sentence reads: "... while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply." Is this new version correct? If it is, the structure with "while" is not paralleled: while businesses + verb in past progressive, unsold goods + verb in simple past.

Thank you

Thanks for the question Tracy95!

If you changed "is slowed" to "slowed," it is better, but it fixes only one problem. In option B, we see that this option also fixes the parallelism issue between "were expanding" and "were piling up."

So while it's better, it's still not a fully corrected option.

I hope that helps! Feel free to tag me at EMPOWERgmatVerbal with any more questions you have!
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This one is fun, huh?

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I do not see any error in choice D
is this question from official source.

Yup, it's from the OG! I occasionally hallucinate things in the OGs, but Bunuel verified it, and he does not make mistakes. (Also: mosquitos refuse to bite him, just out of respect. And the last time he went to Spain, he chased the bulls.)

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GMATNinja GMATNinjaTwo Hey guys, can you please explain what "that" is doing in my sentence?

I see what you did there! Nicely played, MikeScarn.

The second "that" might feel a little bit unnecessary, but it's there to emphasize the parallelism:

"The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves..."

So the Commerce Department reported two things: (1) "that the nation's economy grew..." and (2) "that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves..." So the word "that" just subordinates the two clauses, and clarifies that both clauses are things that "the Commerce Department reported." Fair enough. (More on "that" in this article and this video.)

septwibowo wrote:

I've read all the explanation but still confused why D is wrong...

Yeah, the "with" thing is tricky. Let's go through all of the answer choices, just to be safe.

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The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply.

(A) unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply

The verb tenses make no sense here. Businesses "were expanding" (past progressive tense, if you like jargon -- basically, an ongoing action in the past), but then consumer spending "is slowed sharply" (present tense). There's no good reason to mix those tenses here. (A) is out.

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(B) unsold goods were piling up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply

I have no problem with this. It's all in past tense: "business were expanding their production", "unsold goods were piling up", and "consumer spending slowed." That actually makes sense.

Let's keep (B).

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(C) unsold goods had piled up on store shelves with a sharp slowing of consumer spending

The verb tense doesn't work in (C), for starters. The past perfect tense "had piled up" must describe an action that logically occurs before something else in the past. And that just doesn't work here: the action "unsold goods had piled up on store shelves" doesn't happen before "business were expanding their production." That's enough to eliminate (C).

The "with" is also goofy, but I'll say more about that in (D), since that one has attracted more questions.

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(D) consumer spending was slowing sharply, with the piling up of unsold goods on store shelves

Maybe I'm missing something, but I can think of two major uses of the word "with":

1. To indicate that one thing or person is accompanied by another: "Tim went with Ron to see a nine-hour documentary about weiner dogs."
2. To modify or describe an action: "Milena ate an entire pizza with great enthusiasm." The phrase "with great enthusiasm" just describes the action, "Mila ate."

The problem with (D) is that neither usage of "with" really applies here. It makes no sense to say that spending was slowing accompanied by "the piling up of unsold goods," the way Tim was accompanied by Ron. And it's not logical for "the piling up of unsold goods" to describe the slowing spending.

Contrast this with (B), in which "as" indicates that the slowing of spending and the piling up of goods are happening at the same time. This is perfectly logical, and much, much clearer.

So given the choice between (D) and (B), (B) wins.

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(E) consumer spending has slowed sharply, with unsold goods piling up on store shelves

Welp, (E) has the same "with" problem as (D). Also, the verb tense still doesn't make a whole lot of sense: "has slowed" indicates an action that starts in the past but continues in the present, but then the non-underlined portion of the sentence is still in the past. It's not necessarily a crime to mix verb tenses, but in this case, there's no good reason to do it.

So (B) is the best we can do.

GMATNinja According to Manhattan Prep, the use of "with..." in E is acceptable. Do you agree? Take a look bellow:

The lack of a comma before with in answer choice (C) indicates that the modifier will modify a noun. However, with a sharp slowing of consumer spending does not logically modify any of the nearby nouns, such as shelves or unsold goods. Eliminate answer (C).

In answer (D), the modifier is with the piling up of unsold goods. When a with modifier is structured as with the [-ing word] of [noun], the modifier generally describes the cause of the clause it’s attached to. For instance, the following is correct:

With the slowing of consumer spending, unsold goods piled up on store shelves.

However, because the piling up of goods did not cause the slowing of spending, the with modifier is used incorrectly in answer (D).

Note: In answer (E), the modifier is with unsold goods piling up on store shelves. When a with modifier is structured as with [noun] [-ing word], there does not need to be a causal relationship between the modifier and its clause. Therefore, the with modifier in answer (E) is acceptable
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GMATNinja wrote:

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(D) consumer spending was slowing sharply, with the piling up of unsold goods on store shelves

Maybe I'm missing something, but I can think of two major uses of the word "with":

1. To indicate that one thing or person is accompanied by another: "Tim went with Ron to see a nine-hour documentary about weiner dogs."
2. To modify or describe an action: "Milena ate an entire pizza with great enthusiasm." The phrase "with great enthusiasm" just describes the action, "Mila ate."

The problem with (D) is that neither usage of "with" really applies here. It makes no sense to say that spending was slowing accompanied by "the piling up of unsold goods," the way Tim was accompanied by Ron. And it's not logical for "the piling up of unsold goods" to describe the slowing spending.

Contrast this with (B), in which "as" indicates that the slowing of spending and the piling up of goods are happening at the same time. This is perfectly logical, and much, much clearer.

So given the choice between (D) and (B), (B) wins.

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(E) consumer spending has slowed sharply, with unsold goods piling up on store shelves

Welp, (E) has the same "with" problem as (D). Also, the verb tense still doesn't make a whole lot of sense: "has slowed" indicates an action that starts in the past but continues in the present, but then the non-underlined portion of the sentence is still in the past. It's not necessarily a crime to mix verb tenses, but in this case, there's no good reason to do it.

So (B) is the best we can do.

GMATNinja According to Manhattan Prep, the use of "with..." in E is acceptable. Do you agree? Take a look bellow:

The lack of a comma before with in answer choice (C) indicates that the modifier will modify a noun. However, with a sharp slowing of consumer spending does not logically modify any of the nearby nouns, such as shelves or unsold goods. Eliminate answer (C).

In answer (D), the modifier is with the piling up of unsold goods. When a with modifier is structured as with the [-ing word] of [noun], the modifier generally describes the cause of the clause it’s attached to. For instance, the following is correct:

With the slowing of consumer spending, unsold goods piled up on store shelves.

However, because the piling up of goods did not cause the slowing of spending, the with modifier is used incorrectly in answer (D).

Note: In answer (E), the modifier is with unsold goods piling up on store shelves. When a with modifier is structured as with [noun] [-ing word], there does not need to be a causal relationship between the modifier and its clause. Therefore, the with modifier in answer (E) is acceptable

Interesting question! There's a difference between arguing that an answer choice has an unclear meaning and arguing that a certain usage is inherently, mechanically wrong.

Manhattan is claiming that the usage in (E) isn't a definitive error. I don't disagree with this -- you can't eliminate (E) because it definitively violates a rule, but I don't think there's any contradiction in arguing that a construction is both technically acceptable and somewhat illogical. My explanation above doesn't claim that "with" is grammatically incorrect -- just that it doesn't seem to make much sense, and is unclear at best.

Put another way: if an answer choice isn't fundamentally wrong, but has a meaning that's less clear or coherent than an alternative, then you can eliminate that option from contention.

I hope that helps!
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The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply.

(A) unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply

(B) unsold goods were piling up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply

(C) unsold goods had piled up on store shelves with a sharp slowing of consumer spending

(D) consumer spending was slowing sharply, with the piling up of unsold goods on store shelves

(E) consumer spending has slowed sharply, with unsold goods piling up on store shelves

I just went off-balance after reading 2nd 'that', thankfully it is not underlined. Anyway, a quick question rather just checking whether my application is fine or not.
I was stuck between B and D, others i have eliminated without much hiccup.
Does 'while' suggest any sort of parallelism, at least in this question?? After 'while' 'businesses were expanding their production' followed and I thought something similar(clause) inline and structure should follow after the 'comma'. Hence only B(were piling) and D(was slowing) were doing that.

Thereafter i eliminated D since it doesn't make sense that piling up of unsold goods was happening after spending was slowing or even simultaneously with it.

Is that correct or i have been lucky here??(not trying to make a rule out of this )
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septwibowo wrote:
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The Commerce Department reported that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter, but that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply.

(A) unsold goods piled up on store shelves as consumer spending is slowed sharply

(B) unsold goods were piling up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply

(C) unsold goods had piled up on store shelves with a sharp slowing of consumer spending

(D) consumer spending was slowing sharply, with the piling up of unsold goods on store shelves

(E) consumer spending has slowed sharply, with unsold goods piling up on store shelves

https://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/30/us/economy-is-up-3.7-but-signs-hint-of-slowing.html

In a report that cheered the Administration and financial markets for different reasons, the Commerce Department said today that the nation's economy grew at a brisk annual pace of 3.7 percent in the second quarter. But the report also showed that while businesses were expanding their production, unsold goods were piling up on store shelves as consumer spending slowed sharply.

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GMATNinja, need your help here. I've read all the explanation but still confused why D is wrong.

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(D) consumer spending was slowing sharply, with the piling up of unsold goods on store shelves

in D : "with the pilling up of...." explains (or shows a result of) "a slower consumer spending". For me this relation still makes sense.
If we connect also with the previous statement: "while business expanding...", we can see the correlation also.

Wdyt?

Hi, let me try to explain this.

As per the original sentence, two things happened simultaneously.

1. Businesses were expanding their production
2. Unsold Goods piled up on the store shelves.

Notice the very important use of "as" here. This is trying to explain the reason why #2 happened. unsold goods piled up on store shelves as[because] consumer spending is slowed sharply.

Hence the sequence is -
1. Businesses were expanding their production
2. Unsold Goods piled up on the store shelves. [because] 3. consumer spending is slowed sharply

Option D uses "with" that again states #2 and #3 came up together or they happened together, and that is not the intended meaning as per original sentence.

the point is that

can be an adverb showing reason, efffect and context of the main clause

but
"with+noun+preposition"
this is why choice D is wrong.

am I correct ?
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"While" here plays the role of "Although" or does it represent simultaneous actions?
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