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New post 15 Sep 2016, 16:39
manhasnoname, if you read through the thread above, you'll see that the pronoun issue has been discussed quite a bit. I'm inclined to agree with you, although that leaves us with no correct answer!
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Many have found their ways to reach option A but this is not a GMAT like SC question. In GMAT SC, the correct answer can never be grammatically incorrect. It has to be concise and GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT.

No matter how hard one tries, one can't find an antecedent for "their" in option A. Stem starts with "company's efforts"; company is no where a plural and hence we are just talking about a single company, Period! "It's computers" bolsters the singularity of the company. No ambiguity left for singular vs plural subject.

Also the rival is a single company as the stem says "its chief rival" and not "rivals".

Hence, nowhere the question stem talks about more than one company. "their" must refer to company and not to visions and hence this option A, no matter is an OA, is plain incorrect. I don't understand that on what stead, people are defending "A" so hard.

I think Veritas should take this off their list. This appeared as second question in my mock and it contributed in spoiling my verbal score.


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The company’s efforts to seek advance orders for its computers will set off an intense new phase with its chief rival, one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.

a) one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.
b) which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than their visions
c) which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than by its visions
d) one that will be determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than its visions.
e) one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers as by its vision.


What is the referent for "their visions"


Kindly provide detailed explanations!
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A good parallel construction problem.Thanks for posting.
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The company’s efforts to seek advance orders for its computers will set off an intense new phase with its chief rival, one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.

a) one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.
Correct
Correclty uses the idiom more by X than by Y

b) which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than their visions
which modifies the touching noun, hence incorrect
c) which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than by its visions
which modifies the touching noun, hence incorrect
d) one that will be determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than its visions.
should be than by its visions, parallelism error
e) one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers as by its vision.
more by X as by Y is idiomatically wrong,
it should be more by X than by Y


I think people are often to quick to dismiss "which" because it modifies the touching noun. The fact is this could easily be a vital noun modifier and be modifying phase. However, even if we are using phase as the noun the sentence doesn't make sense and hence wrong. But you set a lot of people up to get a lot of wrong GMAT answers when you say which is wrong because it isn't touching. A which not touching is a clear GMAT trap and you need to be aware when it's vital and non vital.

The other mistake in B is not using the word by and in C using its visions which is singular and hence makes no sense. Though I do agree with some above that "their has no antecedent" still the sentence is clearly a plural comparison
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Hi VeritasPrepKarishma,

Can you please look into this one ? "their" in option A does not seem to have a clear antecedent mentioned in the sentence. Also, the sentence mentions company in possessive form. Although it is implied that their refers to the rival companies however do we see such a sentence construction on the actual GMAT ?
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Hi VeritasPrepKarishma,

Can you please look into this one ? "their" in option A does not seem to have a clear antecedent mentioned in the sentence. Also, the sentence mentions company in possessive form. Although it is implied that their refers to the rival companies however do we see such a sentence construction on the actual GMAT ?


"Their" is a possessive adjective. It refers to the visions of the company and its chief rival.
Since we are discussing two companies, the use of plural "their" is justified. It is obvious that we are talking about the vision of each company (company and its chief rival).
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The company’s efforts to seek advance orders for its computers will set off an intense new phase with its chief rival, one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.

(A) one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions. -Correct.

(B) which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than their visions -Wrong meaning

(C) which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than by its visions -Wrong meaning

(D) one that will be determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than its visions. -incorrect comparison

(E) one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers as by its vision. -"as" is not required
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I don't think the GMAT would use "their" the way it is used in A, but the other answers are really egregiously bad, so as long as we know who "their" is supposed to refer to, it still looks like the best choice. If I were going to defend this answer choice, I'd say that the antecedent is there in compound form: the company and its rival. However, since "company" isn't even used in non-possessive form, I'm not too inclined to defend this answer. :) Throw it out!


Here is the official answer:

Solution: A

Explanation: The key in this problem is to make sure the correct answer contains a logical and parallel comparison. (B) and (D) can be quickly eliminated because they seem to be modifying “chief rival” (and create illogical meaning even if they were modifying the “new phase”). In (D) the “by” is required to make the construction parallel and “its visions” needs to be the plural “their visions”. In (E) the construction “more…as” is incorrect as it should be “more…than” While at first glance, the pronoun "theirs" in (A) might seem numerically incorrect, it is referring back to the visions of the two competing companies and therefore is correct. Answer is (A).

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GuilhermeAzevedo The official explanation shows that whoever created the original question/explanation was a bit confused. The antecedent for "their" can't be "visions." The phrase is "their visions"! So the question is, "whose visions?" While it's pretty clear what the author is trying to say--it's the companies' visions--the word "companies" (plural) does not appear in the sentence, leaving us no actual antecedent for the word "their."
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