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The difficulty with the proposed high-speed train line is that a used plane can be bought for one-third the price of the train line, and the plane, which is just as fast, can fly anywhere. The train would be a fixed linear system, and we live in a world that is spreading out in all directions and in which consumers choose the free-wheel systems (cars, buses, aircraft), which do not have fixed routes. Thus a sufficient market for the train will not exist.

Which of the following, if true, most severely weakens the argument presented above?

(A) Cars, buses, and planes require the efforts of drivers and pilots to guide them, whereas the train will be guided mechanically.
(B) Cars and buses are not nearly as fast as the high-speed train will be.
(C) Planes are not a free-wheel system because they can fly only between airports, which are less convenient for consumers than the high-speed train's stations would be.
(D) The high-speed train line cannot use currently underutilized train stations in large cities.
(E) For long trips, most people prefer to fly rather than to take ground-level transportation.

I agree with the OA.
However, it is tricky to find the conclusion (in blue) because the sentence in red seems to be the conclusion if you don't pay enough attention (It is at the end of the argument and used the word "thus").
In this sense, I would like to know whether there is a method or approach to find the conclusion in this type of tricky questions in a faster way. CR Powerscore Bible suggests to organize the ideas to find what statement is consequence of another statement; however, it takes time. Thanks!
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is true that the conclusion not always is founded at the end of the stimulus (98% of time YES).

However, i disagree with you; for me the red phrase is the conclusion, and even not, the key point of the entire situation is that train are NOT convenient.

We have to find something that says train IS convenient. C does.

During this (huge, monster, crazy , amazing, unbelievable) exam one of the central point is : understand what's going on on the problem. As Ron says: be flexible

Without consider or not the conclusion.

First sentence: The difficulty with the proposed high-speed train line is that a used plane can be bought for one-third the price of the train line, and the plane, which is just as fast, can fly anywhere. -------> what 's that mean: train as more expensive than plane.

Second sentence: he train would be a fixed linear system, and we live in a world that is spreading out in all directions and in which consumers choose the free-wheel systems (cars, buses, aircraft), which do not have fixed routes ---------> we live in a world with a lot of movement where wheels are a problem rather than plane.

Thierd sentence: Thus a sufficient market for the train will not exist ----------> Train has no (or will not) market sufficient enough to develope.

I do not see the process above takes much time. At most 20 seconds. This collimate with what CR Bible says

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I also think the conclusion is in red. The blue part provides a few reasons (prices, range of mobility, etc.) to support the conclusion, which states there will be no market for the train line.

(C) directly weakens this conclusion by stating that there will be a market: using planes one can only fly from airport to airport. Thus many will still rely on trains for those areas in which using an airport will be inconvenient.

@metallicafan, Btw, was there another answer choice you were drawn to?
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The difficulty with the proposed high-speed train line is that a used plane can be bought for one-third the price of the train line, and the plane, which is just as fast, can fly anywhere. The train would be a fixed linear system, and we live in a world that is spreading out in all directions and in which consumers choose the free-wheel systems (cars, buses, aircraft), which do not have fixed routes. Thus a sufficient market for the train will not exist. to decrease in the next few years.

Which of the following, if true, most severely weakens the argument presented above?

(A) Cars, buses, and planes require the efforts of drivers and pilots to guide them, whereas the train will be guided mechanically.

(B) Cars and buses are not nearly as fast as the high-speed train will be.

(C) Planes are not a free-wheel system because they can fly only between airports, which are less convenient for consumers than the high-speed train's stations would be.

(D) The high-speed train line cannot use currently underutilized train stations in large cities.

(E) For long trips, most people prefer to fly rather than to take ground-level transportation.



In this question how can we can weaken the conclusion by questioning the premise itself that planes are not a free wheel system,whereas in premise its mentioned consumers choose the free wheel systems (cars,buses,aircraft).
Aircraft and planes are two different things?
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The difficulty with the proposed high-speed train line is that a used plane can be bought for one-third the price of the train line, and the plane, which is just as fast, can fly anywhere. The train would be a fixed linear system, and we live in a world that is spreading out in all directions and in which consumers choose the free-wheel systems (cars, buses, aircraft), which do not have fixed routes. Thus a sufficient market for the train will not exist. to decrease in the next few years.

Which of the following, if true, most severely weakens the argument presented above?

(A) Cars, buses, and planes require the efforts of drivers and pilots to guide them, whereas the train will be guided mechanically.

(B) Cars and buses are not nearly as fast as the high-speed train will be.

(C) Planes are not a free-wheel system because they can fly only between airports, which are less convenient for consumers than the high-speed train's stations would be.

(D) The high-speed train line cannot use currently underutilized train stations in large cities.

(E) For long trips, most people prefer to fly rather than to take ground-level transportation.



In this question how can we can weaken the conclusion by questioning the premise itself that planes are not a free wheel system,whereas in premise its mentioned consumers choose the free wheel systems (cars,buses,aircraft).
Aircraft and planes are two different things?


Hi Abid,

No, I don't think the argument is playing on the difference between aircraft and planes. By the way, technically, an airplane is a kind of aircraft.

It seems to me a rare case of attacking the premise.

Due to lack of any better options, this is the right one.

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I am shocked that this is an official question. Any answer that goes against the premise is incorrect. Option C clearly goes against what is stated in the passage. I feel option B weakens the conclusion because if cars and buses are not as fast as high-speed train, then there could be a market for these trains. Thus doesn't B weaken the conclusion?
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I am shocked that this is an official question. Any answer that goes against the premise is incorrect. Option C clearly goes against what is stated in the passage. I feel option B weakens the conclusion because if cars and buses are not as fast as high-speed train, then there could be a market for these trains. Thus doesn't B weaken the conclusion?

The passage states that consumers choose free-wheel systems that do not have fixed routes. If a free-wheel system is one that does not have fixed routes and planes are free to fly anywhere, then planes can indeed be considered a free-wheel system.

Choice (C) doesn't actually contradict this information; rather, choice (C) elaborates by stating that, although planes can theoretically fly anywhere, in reality their routes are limited to airports at fixed locations. If we include the fact that consumers need to use these airports in order to actually travel by plane, the resulting system is not free-wheel. This does not directly contradict the author's notion that an aircraft, by itself, can be considered free-wheel.

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(B) Cars and buses are not nearly as fast as the high-speed train will be.

As for choice (B), the author's argument is not based on speed but rather on convenience of routes. The train might be 20 times faster than cars and buses, but if the train stations are not convenient for travelers, the travelers will not take the train.
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GMATNinja, GMATNinjaTwo,

In a CR argument, we treat the premise as TRUE on its face value.

Argument says:
The train would be a fixed linear system, and we live in a world that is spreading out in all directions and in which consumers choose the free-wheel systems (cars, buses, aircraft), which do not have fixed routes.

This statement is a fact, and it clearly says: Aircraft (as as system, not plane individually) are free wheel systems ie one that can reach out in all directions.

Does not option C goes against the premise - Planes are NOT free wheeled system?
I believe we CAN NOT challenge the premise but we need to break link between premise and conclusion.

Also do we not need additional supporting evidence against cars and buses too, which are not mentioned in option C.
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GMATNinja, GMATNinjaTwo,

In a CR argument, we treat the premise as TRUE on its face value.

Argument says:
The train would be a fixed linear system, and we live in a world that is spreading out in all directions and in which consumers choose the free-wheel systems (cars, buses, aircraft), which do not have fixed routes.

This statement is a fact, and it clearly says: Aircraft (as as system, not plane individually) are free wheel systems ie one that can reach out in all directions.

Does not option C goes against the premise - Planes are NOT free wheeled system?
I believe we CAN NOT challenge the premise but we need to break link between premise and conclusion.

Also do we not need additional supporting evidence against cars and buses too, which are not mentioned in option C.

The passage states that consumers choose free-wheel systems that do not have fixed routes. If a free-wheel system is one that does not have fixed routes and planes are free to fly anywhere, then planes can indeed be considered a free-wheel system.

Choice (C) doesn't actually contradict this information; rather, choice (C) elaborates by stating that, although planes can theoretically fly anywhere, in reality their routes are limited to airports at fixed locations. If we include the fact that consumers need to use these airports in order to actually travel by plane, the resulting system is not free-wheel. This does not directly contradict the author's notion that an aircraft, by itself, can be considered free-wheel.

With that in mind, check out the explanation for choice (C) in the post below. Hopefully it makes more sense now!
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Argument Evaluation

Situation A free-wheel system of transportation, the airplane, is as fast as a fixed linear system, the high-speed train. Because people prefer free-wheel systems that do not have fixed routes, the high-speed train will never find a sufficient market.

Reasoning What is the potential weakness in this argument? The passage argues that consumers will choose to fly rather than use the high-speed train. The argument is based upon a consumer preference for free-wheel systems over fixed linear systems. The definition of a free-wheel system is one that does not have fixed routes. The argument is weakened by any challenge to the definition of flying as a free-wheel transportation system. It is true that airplanes may be able to go almost anywhere, but commercial airlines do establish fixed routes and necessarily must travel to and from airports. Furthermore, if airports are less conveniently located for consumers than are train terminals, consumers might well prefer the more convenient of the two fixed-route alternatives.

A The method of guidance is irrelevant to the argument about free-wheel versus fixed linear systems.
B The passage compares the speed and system models of airplanes and high-speed trains. The argument does not incorporate buses and cars, which are included only to give examples of freewheel systems, and so this statement is irrelevant.
C Correct. This statement properly identifies the weakness in the argument: Airplanes are not truly a free-wheel system because they are restricted to traveling between airports. Additionally, airports tend to be less conveniently located than train terminals, which has further potential to
weaken the argument in favor of airplanes.
D The inability of high-speed trains to use some convenient train stations strengthens, rather than weakens, the argument in favor of airplanes.
E Consumer preference for air travel over ground travel on long trips strengthens, rather than weakens, the argument in favor of airplanes.

The correct answer is C.
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