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The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces.

A. to be the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs
B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing
C. is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, and it weighs
D. is the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs
E. is the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing
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Hi sujit2k,

This is in response to your PM.

Well, there are many official questions in which the noun modifiers do not follow "touch" rule. Here are a few examples:

1. Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were televised nationwide.

2. What scientists know about dinosaur brains comes from studies of the cranium, the bony house of the brain located in the back of the skull.

3. Emily Dickinson’s letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson, which were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan’s marriage to Emily’s brother and ending shortly before Emily’s death in 1886, outnumber her letters to anyone else.

Now let's look at Choice B of this question at hand:

B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing: In my opinion, there is no issue with the reference of "which" because logically it should refer to "the smallest network digital camcorder". But yes, this choice is incorrect for the use of "to be".

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OA: D

My question is what's wrong with option B
I know the issue is claim +' to be ' is wrong here, so replacing it by IS it will be

B. [color=#ec008c]to be is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing[/color]

Now is this sentence correct;

weighing is refering back to subject 'WHICH' -- which actually is 'digital camcorder'

what wrong in the above structure? can two modifiers follow one after another

Sujit2k7-

The GMAT generally tries to avoid 'stacking' modifiers one after another, but the key issue in option B is with the word 'which'. On the GMAT, 'which' is a noun modifier and it must modify the noun it's 'touching' - in this case the noun would be world. The 'which' phrase in option B is clearly not meant to modify the world, so this option is illogical and incorrect.

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Hi HumptyDumpty,

All three examples that I have posted in my response are the correct version of the official problems. This means that none of the sentence breaks any rules of modification. Each of them complies to the rule. It's just that general understanding about the rule is little limited.

Please review the article in the following like to understand when noun modifiers can modify a slightly far away noun and when they cannot:
noun-modifiers-can-modify-slightly-far-away-noun-135868.html

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narendran1990 wrote:
Can anybody let me know as to why 'claims to be' shouldn't be used.? Is it because 'claim' is a reporting verb.?

Although "claims to be" is a valid idomatic usage, in this case the usage is not correct.

He claims to be able to predict future.
I claim to be innocent.

"Able" / "innocent" is what he is claiming to be. The claim "being able" / "being innocent" refers to back to himself.

In the subject question, the "the world’s smallest network digital camcorder" does not refer back to the entity who claims it, i.e. "the electronics company". Such usage is incorrect.
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OA: D

My question is what's wrong with option B
I know the issue is claim +' to be ' is wrong here, so replacing it by IS it will be

B. [color=#ec008c]to be is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing[/color]

Now is this sentence correct;

weighing is refering back to subject 'WHICH' -- which actually is 'digital camcorder'

what wrong in the above structure? can two modifiers follow one after another
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KyleWiddison wrote:
The GMAT generally tries to avoid 'stacking' modifiers one after another, but the key issue in option B is with the word 'which'. On the GMAT, 'which' is a noun modifier and it must modify the noun it's 'touching' - in this case the noun would be world. The 'which' phrase in option B is clearly not meant to modify the world, so this option is illogical and incorrect.

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But 'in the world' just modifying which can't be placed anywhere else in the same sentence. I think there are so many problems where the touching rule is violated if there is something essential before the modifier.

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24 Apr 2013, 11:10
The GMAT is strict about it's treatment of 'which'. 'Which' will modify the noun it touches. In your example, the phrase 'in the world' can't be effectively moved as-is, but you can change the phrase and retain the same meaning with 'the world's smallest' - the phrase used in options A, D, and E.

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Hi sujit2k,

This is in response to your PM.

Well, there are many official questions in which the noun modifiers do not follow "touch" rule. Here are a few examples:

1. Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were televised nationwide.

2. What scientists know about dinosaur brains comes from studies of the cranium, the bony house of the brain located in the back of the skull.

3. Emily Dickinson’s letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson, which were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan’s marriage to Emily’s brother and ending shortly before Emily’s death in 1886, outnumber her letters to anyone else.

Now let's look at Choice B of this question at hand:

B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing: In my opinion, there is no issue with the reference of "which" because logically it should refer to "the smallest network digital camcorder". But yes, this choice is incorrect for the use of "to be".

Hope this helps.
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Is "claim to be" always wrong?
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Is "claim to be" always wrong?

Not always, Manhattan SC describes it as "suspect". I.e. it can be correct if it is the best AC.
Always wrong: Claim sh as...
Always correct: Claim sb a friend.

egmat wrote:
Hi sujit2k,

This is in response to your PM.

Well, there are many official questions in which the noun modifiers do not follow "touch" rule. Here are a few examples:

1. Although she had been known as an effective legislator first in the Texas Senate and later in the United States House of Representatives, Barbara Jordan did not become a nationally recognized figure until 1974, when she participated in the hearings on the impeachment of President Richard Nixon, which were televised nationwide.

2. What scientists know about dinosaur brains comes from studies of the cranium, the bony house of the brain located in the back of the skull.

3. Emily Dickinson’s letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson, which were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan’s marriage to Emily’s brother and ending shortly before Emily’s death in 1886, outnumber her letters to anyone else.

Now let's look at Choice B of this question at hand:

B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing: In my opinion, there is no issue with the reference of "which" because logically it should refer to "the smallest network digital camcorder". But yes, this choice is incorrect for the use of "to be".

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

Are you saying that the touch rule can be violated and the sentence will still be fully correct? Can the rule be neglected? I am a bit confused now!
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03 May 2013, 12:41

with option A and B ,it is not clear what 'it' refers to , logical meaning is not clear.
so option A and B are out. while in rest of the options 'it' refers to company.
is my understanding correct ?
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C. is the smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld cmoputer and weighs

D. is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs

Hi all,

I'm failing to see why D outshines C. Also, what OG and problem number is this? Thanks for your input
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Mejia,

the information given in the original sentence should not be omitted ie. 'world's smallest' ; I believe this is the reason for option 'c' being incorrect, it did not imply the intended meaning of the original sentence.
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The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces.

A. to be the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs

B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing

C. is the smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld cmoputer and weighs

D. is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs

E. is the world's smalles network digital camcorder, the lenght of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing

In option (d) if I put :

"is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and which weighs"
Will this be wrong ?
What is the difference between the original (d) and " which ... and which ..."

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prasannar wrote:
The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces.

A. to be the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs

B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing

C. is the smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld cmoputer and weighs

D. is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs

E. is the world's smalles network digital camcorder, the lenght of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing

In option (d) if I put :

"is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and which weighs"
Will this be wrong ?
What is the difference between the original (d) and " which ... and which ..."

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Hi Practicegmat.

There is no reason to put a second "which" for the same subject. D's structure, without a second "which", is parallel. If you put the second "which" in the sentence, the answer is not better than the original D.
For example:
CORRECT: The old house, which is at the end of the street and was built in 1980, is very expensive.
WORDY: The old house, which is at the end of the street and which was built in 1980, is very expensive.

Hope it's clear.
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'Claims to be' is the correct idiom right ?
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IMO (D) is wrong because of the use of 'IT'.

If we use 'IT' again then there would be pronoun ambiguity as to what 'IT' refers to? Electronic company or digital camcorder.

The electronic company has....,...., and it weighs......

My Query.

Even if I use construction per the right choice, doesn't it looks like that the second verb goes with the electronic company?

The electronic company has....,....., an weighs....
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KW,

Thanks a lot for telling the usage of which. But is "claims is the world's smallest" usage correct. I believe claims to be is the correct idiom. Please correct me. Thanks in advance.
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Somebody please correct the question bb / souvik101990:

The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces.
A. to be the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs
B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing
C. is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, and it weighs
D. is the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs
E. is the world’s smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing

In option C) "in the world" is missing the in the posted question. I cannot believe that I got this problem wrong.
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The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces.

A. to be the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs

B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing

C. is the smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld cmoputer and weighs

D. is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs

E. is the world's smalles network digital camcorder, the lenght of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing

kinjiGC is correct; There has to be something missing from answer choice C. Choice C does not have anything wrong with it, and I actually prefer it over answer choice D. If something is "the smallest network digital camcorder", it is implied that the thing is "the world's smallest". Saying that the thing is "the world's smallest" is actually redundant. However, if the answer choice is missing "in the world", that phrase makes the answer choice wrong because which would be referring to "the world". Please update the answer choice or merge this post.
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