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The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says

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Can somebody tell me what is the problem with the modifier "saying ..." ? Is it because "saying..." in A incorrectly modifies "engine has sparked..." clause?
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80. The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has
sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply
problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says


Both X & Y : X & Y should be in parallel form. C & D use this idiom in incorrect form. Both on X and Y (Here on is missing for Y)

Option B: Changes the meaning a little bit and here only engine is mentioned instead of diesel engines. Better to stay with original one. Moreover pronoun "they" dont have any referent.

Option A: use ing-modifier which tends to modify the preceding clause. So the meaning is not clear here.

Option C is correct: which refers to industry and meaning is clear. The proposal has sparked a counter attack by oil industry and the industry says that the move will exacerbate ........problems.
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The simple way to approach this is via grammar first, namely the correlative conjunction //ism and then via other errors.
‘Both ---and’ are correlative conjunctions and they should be followed by structurally and logically // parts. If you say ‘both x’, you should also say ‘and y’; On the contrary, if you say both on diesel, you should say ‘and on diesel’. D and E can be eliminated on this score...
2. The subject is proposal; the verb should be has. B is gone.
3. We essentially need the ‘which’ to clearly indicate the oil industry, which is saying whatever it says. On the contrary, A by using the present participle is unable to indicate who is saying that, whether the EPA or the proposal or the Industry. This element of ambiguity belittles Choice A in comparison to C.
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When you use the verb+ing participial modifier, then it is licensed to modify the entire clause that lies before it, not necessarily the noun before it. Structurally, the saying could also be attributed to the EPA’s proposal, which is wrong. That is why we need to fix the noun that is saying something, by the relative pronoun ‘which’; now we can be damn sure, it is the oil Industry which mooted the saying.
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I have one small doubt , what is the difference between "on both" and "both on" phrases here ???
Are both equivalent ?


If you put the two phrases back to back it may be easier to tell the difference. "....restrictions on both ..." or "....restrictions both on ..." Does one sound more favorable than the other. In all honestly, I could see myself saying both but I went with A. Out of curiosity I looked up the usage of the word "both" and this is what I found.

Position of both

When both refers to the subject of a clause, it can go with the verb. It is put after auxiliary verbs and before other verbs. When there are two auxiliary verbs, both usually goes after the first.

They are both good.
We both want to go.
We have both been invited.
They have both gone home.

Note that these meanings can also be expressed by using the structure both (of) + noun/pronoun.

Both of them are good.
Both of us want to go.
Both of us have been invited.
Both of them have gone home.

Both … and … ------ The same kind of words or expressions usually follow both and and.

She is both beautiful and clever. (adjectives)
She both sings and dances. (verbs)

http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/usage/both.htm

I think the last concept describes what's going on in this question. We have the "both ... and.." construction. In the "both diesel fuel and diesel engines". Based on this, I think the "on both" is preferable to the "both on". When you have a prepositional phrase and the use of "both", you would say, "Bob went inside (on) both the airplane and helicopter" as opposed to "Bob went both inside (on) the airplane and helicopter."

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The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says

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Can somebody tell me what is the problem with the modifier "saying ..." ? Is it because "saying..." in A incorrectly modifies "engine has sparked..." clause?


msand,

, saying that.... is a present participle or ing modifier after comma

Rule: present participle or ing modifier after comma will always modify both the subject & verb of the preceding clause. So A has incorrect meaning..It seems as if proposal is saying......
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Excuse me, can anyone explain what is the difference between 'which says' and 'saying' in this sentence?


Here Saying is modifying the proposal and it seems that the proposal is saying, which of course is incorrect
Which says correctly points to the Oil Industry, hence the correct option.

Does that clarify?
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80. The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has
sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply
problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says



@sanjeebpanda - Please follow the forum rules before posting any questions. You need to underline the sentence correctly for sentence correction questions to avoid any confusion.
Explanation:
"The proposal has sparked" and not "The proposal have sparked". Hence option B and E are out.
Option D - "has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying" Modifier issue + wordiness. Hence incorrect.
Option A - Modifier issue. It seems that the proposal itself saying that move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply. Hence incorrect.
Option C - corrects all the issue. Hence correct.
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80. The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has
sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply
problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says



The answer is C.

A: Incorrect. Incorrect placement of ,+ ing modifier changes the meaning to - the proposal to place restrictions is saying that the move will further aggravate the nation's fuel supply issues.
B. Subject verb agreement problem. Singular subject "proposal" requires singular verb "has".
C. Correct. Correct placement of ,+which modifier to mean that the oil industry is saying that the move will further aggravate the nation's fuel supply issues.
D. Parallelism issue with "Both X and Y". Incorrect placement of "saying" ,+ING modifier (same as A)
E. Parallelism issue with "Both X and Y". Subject verb agreement problem. Singular subject "proposal" requires singular verb "has". Ambiguous meaning.
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The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says

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Can somebody tell me what is the problem with the modifier "saying ..." ? Is it because "saying..." in A incorrectly modifies "engine has sparked..." clause?


A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying - It modifies The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say - Proposal is singular
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying - It modifies The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says - Proposal is singular
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The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply problems.

A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying

B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say

C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
"has" agree in number with subject "the proposal"
"which says" correctly modify oil industry


D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying

E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says
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The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply problems.

A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying saying is a verbing modifier and it attaches to the subject of the previous clause. The result of the meaning is EPA itself is saying that move will cause problems to its proposal -> ridiculous

B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say -> proposal -> singular noun and singular verb -> has

C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says -> Correct

D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying -> same issues as A) and BOTH X and Y so "on diesel engines" should be used

E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says -> SV agreement issue.
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The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says

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Can somebody tell me what is the problem with the modifier "saying ..." ? Is it because "saying..." in A incorrectly modifies "engine has sparked..." clause?


saying is a verb-ing modifier. With preceding comma, it modifies the preceding clause, i.e. 'The EPA's proposal to place restrictions on blah'. But did this clause action do the saying? NO. Oil industry did. Therefore, saying is wrong.
In B and E, they and it are ambiguous pronouns. Also were the oil industry sparked? NO.
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80. The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has
sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply
problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says



A is incorrect because of the ing modifier. in this case, it is incorrect. it does not present the result nor the "how" aspect of the preceded clause.
B - they doesn't have an antecedent. verb "have" does not agree in number with the subject proposal.
C - looks good.
parallel marker both X and Y or both on X and Y
D - parallelism is violated. like in A, ing modifier is incorrect.
E - same parallelism error as in D. same verb error as in B. It - ambiguous as it can have 2 antecedents.
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The Environmental Protection Agency’s proposal to place restrictions on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying that the move will exacerbate the nation’s fuel supply problems.
A. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, saying
B. on both diesel fuel and engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and they say
C. on both diesel fuel and diesel engines has sparked a counterattack by the oil industry, which says
D. both on diesel fuel and engines has sparked the oil industry to a counterattack, saying
E. both on diesel fuel and diesel engines have sparked the oil industry to counterattack, and it says

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Can somebody tell me what is the problem with the modifier "saying ..." ? Is it because "saying..." in A incorrectly modifies "engine has sparked..." clause?


Here in the above sentence "The environment Protection Agency's proposal" is singular, So this singular subject will take singular verb.
So,B and E is not possible


A is wrong because of wrong modifier usage
As we know comma+ Ving modifies previous clause, if placed after the clause but here as per the meaning of the sentence we need to modify industry
Hence A is out


D is wrong because of two reason
1st is parallelism
both on diesel fuel and on engines is correct not both on diesel fuel and engines
2nd is modifier issue. saying is wrongly modifying previous clause

Now C remains, Which after comma is clearly modifying industry
Hence C is correcr

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imo its C. in E and D, both X and Y not parallel. proposal.. has.. is correct so B is wrong for SV agreement.
saying.... is unclear who is saying agency or industry.
C clearly modifies industry.

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