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# The fanatical, young group of girls have been waiting in the

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18. The fanatical, young group of girls have been waiting in the concert line all night by the time the tickets go on sale.

a) have been waiting in the concert line all night
b) will have been waiting in the concert line each night
c) will have been waiting in the concert line the entire night
d) had been waiting in the concert line all night
e) has been waiting in the concert line the whole night

Dear visitors, please tell me why the answer choose E cannot be used here. Many thanks!
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The correct answer is C here.

Reason:

Consider tense and tone of given sentence. It tells that by the time tickets go on sale, girls will have been already spent entire night in the queue.

a) have been waiting in the concert line all night >> no will, wrong tense
b) will have been waiting in the concert line each night >> each night, wrong
c) will have been waiting in the concert line the entire night >> correct
d) had been waiting in the concert line all night >> had?, wrong tense
e) has been waiting in the concert line the whole night >> wrong tense
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23 Jan 2012, 08:47
just compare the sentences ...

group of girls has done a thing..

group of girls have done a thing..

if you are still not able to recognise the difference

the singular plural thing just go through the basics..

i made it just by going through the sentence,,,
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23 Jan 2012, 09:47
mohan514 wrote:

if you are still not able to recognise the difference

the singular plural thing just go through the basics..

I don't think that marus had doubt about singular-plural form of verb.

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Dear visitors, please tell me why the answer choose E cannot be used here. Many thanks!
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Hi,

@marus: This sentence needs careful reading. Read the portion “by the time tickets go on sale.” This suggests a future action. We know that the tickets are not up for sale yet. They will be sold some time in the future.

This understanding helps us in eliminating choice E as it is written in the present perfect tense and hence leads to inconsistency in tense in the sentence.

With choice E, the sentence reads: The fanatical, young group of girls has been waiting in the concert line the whole night by the time the tickets go on sale.
The present perfect tense “has been waiting” denotes an action that has already begun in some time in the past and is continuing in the present as well. It renders the sense that the group of girls has already begun to wait in the line for the tickets which will be sold sometime in the future. This is not the logical intended meaning of the sentence.
The logical intended meaning of the sentence is that By the time the tickets will be up for sale, these girls will have been waiting in the line already.

Take this example: By the time Joe appears for the exam, he will have been completely prepared. The sense of the sentence is that by the time Joe will appear for the exam, he will be completely prepared.
However, we do not if he is completely prepared in the present or not. The sentence says nothing about the present. It talks about a situation that is yet to happen.

We cannot say: By the time Joe appears for the exam, he has been completely prepared. “has been prepared” suggests that Joe is already prepared in the present and it does not relate to the event that will take place in the future, i. e. appearing for the exam.

In the very same way, the original sentence is also talking about a situation that is yet to happen. Hence we must use future tense to correspond the related event with that future event only. Again, understanding the intended logical meaning of the sentence is the key here to use the correct verb tense knowledge.

Choice C correctly conveys the logical intended meaning of the sentence: The fanatical, young group of girls will have been waiting in the concert line the entire night by the time the tickets go on sale. This choice clearly says that by the time the tickets will be up for sale, the girls will already be standing in the line from the previous night.
Say for example if the tickets will be sold on February 3, the girls will already have been standing in the line from the night of February 2.

Hope this helps.

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10 Jul 2014, 15:49
Picked E.
Eliminated ABC based on SVA. Eliminated D, because there was not another past tense verb in the sentence to merit the use of past perfect. E didn't really make sense, so I was not surprised to have missed it. According to the following grammar site, singular nouns can use the future perfect construction "will have", so BC can't be eliminated based on SVA
http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/futureperfect.html
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13 Jul 2014, 01:46
The correct answer is actually C here. Not sure why you eliminated C on the basis of SVA. This sentence uses "will have been waiting", which I think is future perfect continuous. Oh boy..I thought these kind of tenses are not tested on GMAT. Can some expert help.
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