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The fear of rabies is well founded; few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms.

(A) few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms.
(B) few people are known to have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
(C) there are few known people who have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
(D) after the clinical symptoms appear,there are few known people who have recovered from the disease
(E) recovery from the disease is known for only a few people after the clinical symptoms appear
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The fear of rabies is well founded; few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms.

(A) few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms
(B) few people are known to have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
(C) there are few known people who have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
(D) after the clinical symptoms appear, there are few known people who have recovered from the disease
(E) recovery from the disease is known for only a few people after the clinical symptoms appear
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2 reasons I feel A is wrong

1. Fear is well founded. Its based upon the past.
2. (A) few people are known to recover from the disease ---> You must exclude the people who have the symptoms now and still recovering – to make such a statement.

people are sampled from the past not the present. "have recovered from the disease" looks alright.

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Can you please clarify? I think it is A, too. But I am not very sure why B is incorrect.

In option A, "..to recover" seems correct because it is a fact and is still true. The usage of "...to have recovered" in option B seems to refer to events in the past.
Also in B, "once" is used rather than "after" (I read somewhere that "after" is preferable). Additionally, "have appeared" should be simple past "appeared".

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I am quoting from another source I found on a google search :

"I still feel B is the right choice. The sentence begins with a statement that the fear of rabies is well founded and the second part is trying to get evidence from past to substantiate why the fear if rabies is well founded - namely very few people are known to have recovered once the symptoms have fully appeared.

Option A makes it sound like there is a fixed set of people who are well known for their ability to recover from rabies (as if they do it multiple times just to prove their ability). e.g Spartans were known warriors.
Somehow the more i look at A, the more the message being conveyed by A gets unclear "


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Yep C is indeed a change of meaning.

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I was left between B or C as both should be Independent Clauses..

But C is having few known people which changes the meaning. So the Ans is B..

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Hey All,

I got Private Messaged to answer this question, and indeed, the discussion has been long and fruitful! What fun!

The fear of rabies is well founded; few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms.

(A)few people are known to recover from the disease after the appearance of the clinical symptoms.
PROBLEM: This question is a classic concision trap. The hope is that you'll pick A, thinking that A and B are the same and this one is shorter. But this is not idiomatic. We say "SUBJECT is known TO HAVE RECOVERED" not "SUBJECT is known TO RECOVER." We wouldn't say he is "known to eat twenty apples". The present tense infinitive (to eat) is wrong. Correct is that "I am known to have eaten 20 apples", which correctly uses the present perfect to imply this is what we've known from the past into the present.

Also, "after" and "once" have slightly different meanings. "I'm going to the store after lunch" implies that SOMETIME after lunch, I'll go to the store. "I'm going to the store once I've eaten lunch" implies that there is a causal relationship between the eating and the going to the store, that eating lunch is the threshold. That's what we want here, because the symptoms are the threshold.

(B)few people are known to have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
ANSWER: Awesome.

(C)there are few known people who have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared
PROBLEM: Adjective "known" is now modifying "people", which is silly.

(D)after the clinical symptoms appear,there are few known people who have recovered from the disease
PROBLEM: Same as above, and the placement of the prep phrase "after..." is odd.

(E)recovery from the disease is known for only a few people after the clinical symptoms appear
PROBLEM: "Known for only a few people" doesn't make any sense. It's not that the recovery isn't known, but that few people are known to have recovered.

Hope that helps! The answer is definitely B.

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(B)few people are known to have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared


The key why A is not correct is the existence of "founded" which means the reasons why the fear exists is based on the observations in the past. The only option which reconciles that is one which has "have recovered" .
The rest is eliminated by the 3C's : concise, correct, clarity.


To further elaborate, the fear "is" well founded, but the fear is again based on the experience of the past.. i.e. need to look in the past for experience, which is most people who have symptoms appear don't recover.
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IMO "B"

a) changes the context when use "recover"

b. few people are known to have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared - "good"
c. there are few known people who have recovered from the disease once the clinical symptoms have appeared - here "known people" says the writer knows the pple who have recovered
d. after the clinical symptoms appear, there are few known people who have recovered from the disease - ditto.
e. recovery from the disease is known for only a few people after the clinical symptoms appear - this stmt say "few pple know the recovery"
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B is good answer. The semi colon there means new sentence and B can be a stand alone sentence
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IMO B

E says recovery from the disease is known FOR only a few people after the clinical symptoms appear..

doesnt this mean that the instances of recovery are known ABOUT few people and not TO few people..?

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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IMO, B is correct.

This question tests us about "perfect infinitive - TO HAVE + PAST PARTICIPLE" vs "infinitive - TO + VERB"
Perfect infinitive mentions an action that happened in the past and still has its effect in present. However, infinitive mentions an action that happens in present or will happen, but DID NOT happen in the past.

For example: Mr. John is known to have worked for IBM since 1990.
What if we use a more concise sentence: Mr. John is known to work for IBM.
The difference is the first sentence mentions that Mr. John started working for IBM in 1990 and he still works the the company
The second sentence mentions that Mr. John is going to work for IBM. it changes the intended meaning.

When you see the PERFECT INFINITIVE, please make sure you checked the time of an action. If it happened in the past and still bear an effect in present ==> Perfect infinitive is correct, even the sentence is longer and not concise.

Back to the question, the first part is "The fear of rabies is well founded" ==> it provides the evidence that the action happened in the past. Clearly, in the second part, we cannot use infinitive-to recover. If there is no first part, the second part only maybe correct.

Between A & B, A is wrong for reason above. B is correct.

PS: You will see a lot of this structure - To have + P.P in real GMAT, because GMAT hopes you will pick a more concise sentence and get it wrong.

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mdacosta, here you go:

C) The use of "known people" is problematic here. It seems to be saying that of all "known people" in the world, there are few who have recovered. Our focus should be on whether the recovery (not the people) is known.

D) This repeats the problem in C, but makes it worse by misplacing the end modifier at the beginning. Now we're saying that this only the case "after symptoms appear." In other words, once symptoms appear (in us, perhaps?), there are no longer many people who have recovered.

E) The phrase "recovery . . . is known for only a few people" just doesn't work. We can't "know recovery" for people. Additionally, we have modifier trouble again. Again, it sounds like "after the clinical symptoms appear" is modifying when we know about these cases.

A good general takeaway from these cases is that while we have some freedom in where we place adverbial modifiers (unlike noun modifiers, they don't have to touch the thing they're modifying), we still need to be very careful with their placement. Structure and position can make a big difference in how we interpret the meaning of these modifiers, and we often end up with nonsense!
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I vote for B

A is wrong because the use of an infinitive ("to recover") implies that the event happened in the past, is happening now, and it will probably happen in the future. And here we are talking about past events only, so "have recovered" is better.

C and D) "known" is in the wrong place.

E) changes the logic. It says that only few people knows about the recovery, when it should say that there are few people who recovered.
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Ok this one is really good.

The answer is "A".

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A vs. B

explanations, plizzz!

I also voted for A, keeping in mind that there is no need to correct a sentence once it is already correct.
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IMHO, the confusion here seemed to be between the construct "are known to recover" and "are known to have recovered". I believe the answer is "A" because the first construct implies that people have recovered and are still recoving.

Here is an analogous example: If I say "He is known to have recited Shakespeare in Central Park" it implies that he had done it before, but doesn't do it anymore.

Now consider, "He is known to recite ....." implies that he continues to recite.

Since the recovery of rabies patients is an ongoing thing, I believe the first construct is more appropriate.
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AkamaiBrah wrote:
IMHO, the confusion here seemed to be between the construct "are known to recover" and "are known to have recovered". I believe the answer is "A" because the first construct implies that people have recovered and are still recoving.

Here is an analogous example: If I say "He is known to have recited Shakespeare in Central Park" it implies that he had done it before, but doesn't do it anymore.

Now consider, "He is known to recite ....." implies that he continues to recite.

Since the recovery of rabies patients is an ongoing thing, I believe the first construct is more appropriate.



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Believe me, I am FAR from perfect. I do, however, try to explain things in a way that, if I were the student, would be clear and understandable to me.

Your comments and criticisms are always welcome and while I will do my best to defend my opinion in an education manner, I am certainly humble enough to admit when I am wrong! <Grin>
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:?: :?: I was given exactly the same question at a GMAT class I attend, and the correct answer was B.

I remember it clearly because I had chosen A, and the tutor had to explain the answer (he said what I wrote above).


I don't know if my tutor just "thinks" the correct answer is B or that he has the answers from ETS (since this is an official GMAT question).


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Like i said, i'm not 100% certain, but B has same verb tense for both the recovery and the appearance of the symptoms, and no helping words like "after" to indicate the proper relative time frame. Clearly the recovery would occur after the onset of the symptoms.

To me, A is still better.
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