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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

A. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

B. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

C. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little

D. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little

E. that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the
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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the
second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation,
even though there are few
signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so


The answer choice is A, But im not clear with 2 things.

1) Usage of Had..
as per my understanding the growth accelerated after the after slowing. (meaning that growth is not the first action)

2) Parallelism: Are had accelerated & remain concerned parallel.
i mean shouldn't they be had accelerated & remained concerned

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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the
second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation,
even though there are few
signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so


The answer choice is A, But im not clear with 2 things.

1) Usage of Had..
as per my understanding the growth accelerated after the after slowing. (meaning that growth is not the first action)

2) Parallelism: Are had accelerated & remain concerned parallel.
i mean shouldn't they be had accelerated & remained concerned


Here's my reasoning:
1) The accelerated already occurred before the Federal Reserve announcement, so that's why you use "had accelerated." I'm not sure you compare the time frame to the slowing.

2) Policy makers continue to be concerned (it's present tense because they are still concerned) so you can't have "had remained"

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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the
second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation,
even though there are few
signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so


The answer choice is A, But im not clear with 2 things.

1) Usage of Had..
as per my understanding the growth accelerated after the after slowing. (meaning that growth is not the first action)

2) Parallelism: Are had accelerated & remain concerned parallel.
i mean shouldn't they be had accelerated & remained concerned


Here's my reasoning:
1) The accelerated already occurred before the Federal Reserve announcement, so that's why you use "had accelerated." I'm not sure you compare the time frame to the slowing.

2) Policy makers continue to be concerned (it's present tense because they are still concerned) so you can't have "had remained"


Still it is not clear to me why "had accelerated" is used inside the subordinate clause started by the word "that". I mean "growth" has slowed down first, then it accelerated. Why should we compare it with "said", which is outside the subordinate clause? So if we need to use past perfect, we should use it with the verb "slow" instead of with the verb "accelerate".

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RaviChandra wrote:
The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the
second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation,
even though there are few
signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so


The answer choice is A, But im not clear with 2 things.

1) Usage of Had..
as per my understanding the growth accelerated after the after slowing. (meaning that growth is not the first action)

2) Parallelism: Are had accelerated & remain concerned parallel.
i mean shouldn't they be had accelerated & remained concerned


Here's my reasoning:
1) The accelerated already occurred before the Federal Reserve announcement, so that's why you use "had accelerated." I'm not sure you compare the time frame to the slowing.

2) Policy makers continue to be concerned (it's present tense because they are still concerned) so you can't have "had remained"


Still it is not clear to me why "had accelerated" is used inside the subordinate clause started by the word "that". I mean "growth" has slowed down first, then it accelerated. Why should we compare it with "said", which is outside the subordinate clause? So if we need to use past perfect, we should use it with the verb "slow" instead of with the verb "accelerate".

Lets see it on the time line... Additionally, "slowing" is not a VERB in this sentence. "Slowing" is acting as a noun(gerund) of the preposition "after"

growth accelerated________ announcement happened
________________________ policy makers concerned

To describe it more clearly, first of all growth was not accelerating and policy makers were concerned then growth accelerated and announcement happened but policy makers were still concerned. So on the day of announcement - growth accelerated , policy makers are concerned and TODAY growth had accelerated , policy makers remain concerned

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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

• that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
• growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
• that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little
• growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little
• that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
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"That" is required ==> only A, C, E remain.
Because the Fed said that <== past tense. Thus, the past perfect tense - "had accelerated" - is correct

The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.


that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
Correct.

• growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
Wrong. Parallelism problem.

• that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little
Wrong. Parallelism problem.

• growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little
Wrong. Need "that".

• that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
Wrong. Tense problem.

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Hi

To begin with "say/said" doesn't always requires "that". However..all options except A &E have parallelism error. Both the subordinate clauses require "that" for parallelism to indicate that both these things were said.

Now that we are left with A & E option A has "had accelerated" whereas option "E" has "accelerated"...can somebody plz explain why should it be "had accelerated"?
I understand that past participle is used with an action is earlier in the past and simple past for the later one. But this is applicable only when two events in the past are related. In this question how can we say they are related/or require a sequence in which events occurred.
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Hi Nikhil,

Let me see if I can help.

The part of the passage pertinent to your question is this

The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated


I've highlighted the two verbs.

The key thing as you say is the difference with whether you need 'had'. And you're also correct in the meaning of the two different tenses.

What you've missed is the connection between 'said' and 'accelerated' - the acceleration needs to have happened prior to the saying - or else that would not make sense.

Said is simple past, so accelerated needs to be in the tense that indicates it was done before the simple past. So you need 'had'

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To begin with "say/said" doesn't always requires "that"

Can you quote any sentence where "said" does not require "that" (in the correct option). I am under the impression it always does require "that".

nikhil09 wrote:
I understand that past participle is used with an action is earlier in the past and simple past for the later one.

Very minor thing. I believe you mean "past perfect" and not "past participle".

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So can we safely assume

1: 'said' in a sentence like above always require ‘that’ after it?
2: If anyone said anything that has happened in the past then we must use past perfect tense for the event being talked about.

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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

A. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

B. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

C. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little

D. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little

E. that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

[Reveal] Spoiler: OE
The original is correct. The equivalent elements, “that growth had accelerated...” and
“that the policy makers remain...,” are parallel clauses beginning with "that." The verb
tenses are also correct; the action that occurred in the most distant past (“had picked
up pace”) uses the past perfect; the later past event (“statement also said”) uses the
simple past. Also, “few” is correct, since it modifies the quantifiable noun "signs."
(A) CORRECT. This choice is correct as it repeats the original sentence.
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(B) This choice is not parallel; "that" is required before “growth had accelerated...” to
make it parallel to “that the policy makers remain..."
(C) This choice is not parallel; “that growth had accelerated...” is not parallel to “the
policy makers remain...” Moreover, “little” is incorrect; since “signs” are countable,
“few” is required.
(D) This choice is parallel, but the syntax is incorrect. "That" can be colloquially
omitted after the verb "said," but not in formal writing. Also, "little" should be
replaced by "few."
(E) This choice is parallel, but incorrectly uses the simple past, “accelerated.” This
action is the earlier past event, as it must have occurred before the Fed commented
on the trend. The earlier of multiple past events must use the past perfect.

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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

A. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few – Correct.

B. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few – That is required to maintain parallelism.

C. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little Few is required with countable noun Signs.

D. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little - That is required to maintain parallelism. Few is required with countable noun Signs.

E. that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few – Past perfect to show two action.
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A. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

B. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
->Missing that in the beginning which is required to maintain parallalism with second that(highlighted)

C. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little
->I would not consider "signs" as uncountable noun and hence would reject "little"

D. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little
->I would not consider "signs" as uncountable noun and hence would reject "little"

E. that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few
->"had" is required as "said" indicates one instance in past and any situation before that should be referred with a "had"
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there are two 3-2 splits here. One 3-2 split is sentence ending with "few" and "little". Another 3-2 split is sentence starting with "that" and no "that".

1) that is required here. So B and D are wiped off..
2) signs are countable so "few" is prefered to "little". So among remaining A,C and E, C is wiped off..
Now A and E remains. Announcement happened after the acceleration of growth. So "had" is needed. E is out. A remains.. Answer is A...

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The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

A. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

B. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few

C. that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little

D. growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are little

E. that growth accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few


ans A..
that is required with announcement so b and d out..
signs shuold have few and not little, so c also out..
the growth is being talked over two periods so 'had' is required.. e is also out..
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Usually past perfect tense is used to clarify the timeline of two unrelated events.
Here it is very clear that when someone says something about an event , that event has to occur before the saying. In my opinion 'HAD' is subtly irrelevant.
Having said so, I checked from other sources that OA is A but i will stick to E for reasons mentioned. Someone please clarify if i am mistaken.
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I may be wrong, but none of the options seem to be correct.

For me, the correct answer should be:
The Federal Reserve announcement said that growth had accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remained concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there were few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

Or:
The Federal Reserve announcement says that growth has accelerated after slowing in the second quarter and that the policy makers remain concerned about the prospects of inflation, even though there are few signs of higher energy prices driving up the cost of other goods so far.

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I choose E, so as to get rid of the perfect tense "had accelerated",

In the sentence, there is nothing showing a another completed verb/ action in the past, if you use "remain concerned", that is an ongoing action

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Hi,

One more question concerning the verb tense. Why is the present tense "remain" correct. Shouldn't it be switched to "remained" like in the following example:

Peter: “I work in the garden.”
Peter said that he worked in the garden.

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