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I do not think the difference is anything more than notional or customary. We can always have a phrase as ‘the computer’s circuit’ or ‘the interest of the teenagers’.
Therefore, when you see such a thing, perhaps it is better to ignore it totally, as I do not think GMAT will be keen on testing this aspect
However, there are other solid reasons to dump both C and D because the sentence structure is faulty with the subject of the first IC unable to stand for the subject of the second IC logically and hence both these choices should be considered fragments. One must look for such reasons.
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New post 11 Jan 2016, 23:25
Hi daagh / chetan2u / aditya8062,

Thank you all for clearing my doubts.


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New post 20 Nov 2016, 06:39
Thank you for sharing this information.New learning :)

PrakharGMAT wrote:
Hi chetan2u / daagh,

I have 1 doubt on on this question. Please help

What is the difference between Option C and D
C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch
D) The first personal computers' severe hardware and software limitations were similar to those of a modern wristwatch.

I have learnt that we we try to avoid possessive's of non living thing.

Eg-
Scenario 1:
A) The shoes of Jim.
B) Jim's shoes.

Here we give preference to B.

Scenario 2:
A) The ABC law of government.
B) Government's ABC law.

Here we give preference to A.

In the above-mentioned examples its just the question of preferences but actually the meaning is same. (Correct me if I am wrong)

What to do if we come across any options like in this question.

Please assist.

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daagh wrote:
I do not think the difference is anything more than notional or customary. We can always have a phrase as ‘the computer’s circuit’ or ‘the interest of the teenagers’.
Therefore, when you see such a thing, perhaps it is better to ignore it totally, as I do not think GMAT will be keen on testing this aspect
However, there are other solid reasons to dump both C and D because the sentence structure is faulty with the subject of the first IC unable to stand for the subject of the second IC logically and hence both these choices should be considered fragments. One must look for such reasons.




Thanks a lot Daagh!

I always follow your posts for clarifications :P
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The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch and so were unable to perform the complex operations necessary for today's processor-intensive applications.

A) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch
B) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to a modern wristwatch's correct
C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch subject change and it does not match with second part after "and"
D) The first personal computers' severe hardware and software limitations were similar to those of a modern wristwatch same as C
E) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to that of a modern wristwatch same as C
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B) may only be the right answer because all others are worse.

a) That isn't good as it's a plural subject because of the and.
c) comparing software and hardware to wristwatches
d) Same mistake as c
e) same mistake as C

B) Not sure how I feel about a sentence saying: the first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitation similar to a modern wristwatch's. I really don't like the use of the possessive here. It makes the sentence super unclear in my view.

the Germans had severe missteps and technical issues similar to a modern China's.

I really don't like the use of the possessive here. It makes the sentence super unclear in my view. I can't even really think of a sentence that makes sense using the possessive the way they did.
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The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch and so were unable to perform the complex operations necessary for today's processor-intensive applications.

A) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch :that cannot refer to plural noun when used as pronoun,we need those
B) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to a modern wristwatch's
C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch not parallel to so were we need computers
D) The first personal computers' severe hardware and software limitations were similar to those of a modern wristwatch not parallel to so were we need computers
E) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to that of a modern wristwatch not parallel to so were we need computers
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OFFICIAL EXPLANATION FROM VERITAS
This sentence uses a compound predicate, with a single subject controlling two verbs. Answers (C), (D), and (E) all use the subject "The...limitations", which does not connect to the second verb in the clause "were unable to perform". This creates a Sentence Construction error, so these choices can all be eliminated. Answer (A) uses the relative pronoun phrase "that of a modern wristwatch", while (B) uses the acceptable possessive case "a modern wristwatch's", which ends with an implied relative pronoun. Answer (A)'s use of "that", however, is incorrect: the pronoun antecedent is the plural "limitations", and requires the relative pronoun "those". Thus, only answer (B) grammatically expresses the intent of the original sentence.
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B) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to a modern wristwatch's: Correct.

The X had many problems similar to Y. The comparison is between personal computers and wristwatch. Not between problems of computers and problems of wristwatch.
That of/ those of is not required

Correct me if I am wrong..!!


IMO no it is not comparison between computer and wristwatch...rather
comparison is between problems of computer and problems of wristwatch.
we dont need that of / those of because WRISTWATCH'S (posessive form is already their.
THAT OF /THOSE OF is required when ONLY WRISTWATCH is present.

HOPE it is clear.


so the latter part of the sentence would mean that limitations were unable to perform complex operations ?? kindly explain
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blueseas wrote:
adityapagadala wrote:
B) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to a modern wristwatch's: Correct.

The X had many problems similar to Y. The comparison is between personal computers and wristwatch. Not between problems of computers and problems of wristwatch.
That of/ those of is not required

Correct me if I am wrong..!!


IMO no it is not comparison between computer and wristwatch...rather
comparison is between problems of computer and problems of wristwatch.
we dont need that of / those of because WRISTWATCH'S (posessive form is already their.
THAT OF /THOSE OF is required when ONLY WRISTWATCH is present.

HOPE it is clear.


Hi

I thought possessive nouns for things, we can't use the 's

Please help

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C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch. Incorrect. Changes the subject for second clause.

what does 'changes the subject for the second clause' mean?
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Hardware and software limitations" is plural so you should be using "those of" not "that of". Additionally, the sentence isn't really factually correct either. I think you probably are trying to compare the processing power of watches and early computers. You should just say "processing power," it doesn't make sense to say a wristwatch has the same hardware limitations as an early computer.
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The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch and so were unable to perform the complex operations necessary for today's processor-intensive applications.

A) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch
B) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to a modern wristwatch's
C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch
D) The first personal computers' severe hardware and software limitations were similar to those of a modern wristwatch
E) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to that of a modern wristwatch


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Splits - comparison - limitations to limitations -

Split 2 - the non underlined part's subject is first personal computer...

Choice left B...

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I chose the B as the answer but wanted to understand why the other options were wrong.

Wanted to understand why C , D and E are wrong.

C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch

D) The first personal computers' severe hardware and software limitations were similar to those of a modern wristwatch

E) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to that of a modern wristwatch
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I chose the B as the answer but wanted to understand why the other options were wrong.

Wanted to understand why C , D and E are wrong.

C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch

D) The first personal computers' severe hardware and software limitations were similar to those of a modern wristwatch

E) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to that of a modern wristwatch


This is one of those cases where it's so important to recognize that the whole sentence matters - it's really easy to compare answer choices against each other and forget that the choices have to fit back in to the larger sentence. Note that the immediate beginning of the non-underlined portion is: "and so were unable to perform..." The "and" means that we're connecting ideas and "were unable to perform" means that you need connect verbs from the same subject. ("The subject <verb> and so were unable to perform..." So you need a subject that makes logical sense with "were unable to perform complex operations."

C, D, and E all use "limitations" as the subject - but that doesn't make logical sense because you don't expect limitations to be able to perform complex operations. You need the subject to be "computers" because you would expect them to be able to perform complex operations, if it weren't for those limitations.

And the larger lesson - if you find yourself debating between really similar answer choices, make sure you go back to consider how those answer choices would fit within the larger sentence. That's an easy step to overlook when you're in the heat of comparing A vs. B vs. C..., looking only at choices and kind of overlooking the original prompt itself, so make sure you're very conscious of that.
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The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch and so were unable to perform the complex operations necessary for today's processor-intensive applications.

A) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to that of a modern wristwatch
B) The first personal computers had severe hardware and software limitations similar to a modern wristwatch's
C) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to those of a modern wristwatch
D) The first personal computers' severe hardware and software limitations were similar to those of a modern wristwatch
E) The severe hardware and software limitations of the first personal computers were similar to that of a modern wristwatch


I have a question regarding the usage of had in the OA , Can someone please justify that usage ?
(Though there are reasons why we could have eliminated the rest but initially i went with C.)

As per my understanding "Had" is used for a past perfect tense, in which an action was completed at some point in the past before something else happened.

So as per the above explanation am i right to say - first personal computers had some complication and at later point in past the wristwatch also developed some.(I am unable to see the verb/action for a simple past event).

Example (Courtesy gmatclub)
I had only just put the washing out(So i first put the clothes out) when it started(simple past event) to rain!

Here the usage is apt.
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The verb "had" on its own is a past-tense synonym for "possessed" (e.g. "Leslie had salmon for dinner last night" or "I had a great time at the party"). It's when "had" is attached to another verb that it indicates the past perfect (like you're example "I had just put the clothes" --> here "had" attaches to "put").

So recognize that "had" can stand alone as a past-tense verb. If you suspect that past-perfect is in play, make sure you identify the other verb that's attached to it.
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The verb "had" on its own is a past-tense synonym for "possessed" (e.g. "Leslie had salmon for dinner last night" or "I had a great time at the party"). It's when "had" is attached to another verb that it indicates the past perfect (like you're example "I had just put the clothes" --> here "had" attaches to "put").

So recognize that "had" can stand alone as a past-tense verb. If you suspect that past-perfect is in play, make sure you identify the other verb that's attached to it.


Thank You Brian, for your apt insight.

So as per that, for this sentence "had" will be attached to "perform".
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