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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar

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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.


(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but

(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but


https://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/23/science/ruins-alter-ideas-of-how-civilization-spread.html

The first trenches cut into the large 500-acre site, Tell Hamoukar, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East apparently arose simultaneously but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq. In the conventional view, civilization was thought to begin solely in the south and then move north through trade and colonization.

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Let's start with subject-verb agreement.
Answer choices B and D have TRENCHES (plural) YIELDS (singular)
Eliminate B and D

Answer choice A has a problem with concision. Why say "trenches THAT WERE cut" when "trenches cut" will suffice?
Also, EVIDENCE FOR is not idiomatic.
Eliminate A.

Answer choice C has a parallelism issue.
We need the form VERB adverb preposition BUT adverb preposition the more celebrated city-states...
In C we have: were arising simultaneously but independently of the more celebrated
Eliminate C

For E we have: arose simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated
Perfect!

Answer: E

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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.


(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but

(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but


https://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/23/science/ruins-alter-ideas-of-how-civilization-spread.html

The first trenches cut into the large 500-acre site, Tell Hamoukar, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East apparently arose simultaneously but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq. In the conventional view, civilization was thought to begin solely in the south and then move north through trade and colonization.

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Obvious errors:
1- were arising is wrong, past continuous is not required here, simple past "arose" will be best
2- evidence for can be replaced. It's somewhat referring to an action.

B: yields.. SV error. Rejected
C: present perfect is wrong. Rejected
D: Same as B
E: Wow.. this is exactly what we were looking for. Corrects 1 & 2 both
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Hi guy

In all fairness, I think is wrong to attack such complex question in the way you did, with the use of that as pivot point.

Moreover, I'm honest to say that me too had problems simply because
- this kind of question is difficult only for the reason that when you read it from the beginning, when you are in the end of the phrase you already forgot where you stand: lost

- is important to understand the exact time line, without this process you always will pick such question wrong or at least you pick right but after five minute (during the exam the pressure blow your mind for sure) that is the same to pick it wrong.

Now back to the question: the acheologists do something NOW (cut a site into pieces) and discover something else (in that place complex societies took place) and the societies AROSE, in the past.

If you use arise or arising the societies seem still there. as an ongoing situation

Infact E is the answer

cut (now) into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria,have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously (one time) with but and so on

If you do not understand clearly thi first split (the land were cut not in the past but NOW) by someone. They cut the land into acres \(NOW\) :)

Focus on the whole picture. Grammar is important but try to understand a macro vision of the sentence

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Hi, not to offend but your post is unreadable. Please double check your grammar when you want to post something. Another thing is in choice D/E, "cut into a 500-acre..." is not the verb in this sentence, it is actually a modifier, the main verb is "have yielded". For example: The apple, cut into 5 pieces, feeds several people.
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[quote="jerrywu"]The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.


(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but (Wrong preposition for evidence)

(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also (Trenches v/s Yields)

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but (Past action why having been then)

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also (Trenches v/s Yields)

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but
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854. The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.
Meaning:
The first trenches : Subject “trenches” verb not present yet.
that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, - “that” refers to trenches.
have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East -
Meaning till now:
trenches have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies ( location: in northern regions of the Middle East) : “for” looks odd. Evidence is not FOR the complex society Evidence +”of” should be right. But let’s read on.
that were arising simultaneously with : “that” also referring to middle east is wrong as it should logically refer to “societies”
but independently of
the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.
Error:
(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but
At least two error exist as pointed out above
(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also
“but also” doesn’t seem to express intended meaning. “Yields” is singular, subject is plural

(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but
“with” is missing, changes the meaning. “Having been” seems fine, odd but fine.

(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also
“Yields” is singular, subject is plural

(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but
Correct. Can’t find any flaw in this.
I had doubt regarding Past Continuous in A.
Past Continuous should be used to describe the on going nature of one past event with respect to another past event.

So societies were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia. When was this happening? When trenches were cut. Now when I am writing it sounds illogical, but even if we don't eliminate for this reason, there are enough reason to eliminate A
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Dear Experts,

I can find that the only reason C is incorrect because of omission of "with" after simultaneously. Is there any other reason to strikeout this answer option.
PS: Wordy doesn't makes it incorrect.

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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.


(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but

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The first trenches that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but independently of the more celebrated city-states of southern Mesopotamia, in what is now southern Iraq.


(A) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence for centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East that were arising simultaneously with but
(B) that were cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously with but also
(C) having been cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East were arising simultaneously but
(D) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, yields strong evidence of centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arising simultaneously but also
(E) cut into a 500-acre site at Tell Hamoukar, Syria, have yielded strong evidence that centrally administered complex societies in northern regions of the Middle East arose simultaneously with but

Hi GMATNinja
Could you share your process of elimination, sir?
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Evidence for - wrong usage
Evidence that - is correct so, eliminate A
Trenches - plural - requires plural verb - so eliminate - B,D

Now, we are left with C,E

In C - having been cut - not good
Even were arising simultaneously - not good

so, we are left with E
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Option E has 'simultaneously with' in the statement, is there a typo or is that right. Because as per understanding having 'With" in the statement doesn't make sense and on the hand it actually makes it a bit wordily. Please explain.
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Option E has 'simultaneously with' in the statement, is there a typo or is that right. Because as per understanding having 'With" in the statement doesn't make sense and on the hand it actually makes it a bit wordily. Please explain.
Hi SurajSharma,

The with is fine:
... X arose simultaneously with but independently of Y

It means that X arose ~along with (but independently of) Y.
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