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The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader, had his reputation ruined because of his collaboration with Nazis during the german occupation in World War II.

A) The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader
B) Hanary Patin, a French general who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
C) Highly-decorated world war I military leader, the French general Hanary Patin,
D) The French general Henary Petain who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
E) The highly-decorated French general Henary Petain, a military leader for world war I
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The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader, had his reputation ruined because of his collaboration with Nazis during the german occupation in World War II.

A) The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader
B) Hanary Patin, a French general who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
C) Highly-decorated world war I military leader, the French general Hanary Patin,
D) The French general Henary Petain who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
E) The highly-decorated French general Henary Petain, a military leader for world war I

Got confused betweek A & B.. why is B incorrect.. because of the use of who?
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Even i chose B over A...i think the usage of 'who' could be the deal breaker here...

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Let’s keep these factors in focus in this case, in order of priority

1 Hanary Petain, the subject of this topic.
2. His modifier, a highly decorated military war I military leader
3. He had been first famous ( in WWI)
4. Then, he ruined his reputation. (in WWII)




A) The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader …….. The modified Petain and the modifier phrase stay back-to-back; The choice avoids the tense issue by skirting it and using only the past perfect, an acceptable practice.

B) Hanary Petain, a French general who was a highly decorated World War I military leader…The modifier gives more importance to his French Origin than his military decoration. In addition, the His military reputation is described in sessile past, while his losing reputation is pushed earlier by using a past perfect.

C) Highly-decorated World War I military leader, the French general Hanary Petain, -------- Modifier and modified do not abut

D) The French general Henary Petain who was a highly decorated World War I military leader --- The tense issue

E) The highly decorated French general Henary Petain, a military leader for World War I ----Relegating the military decoration away from Henary Petain, slips in the order of words.
A very subtle modification issue.
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PS: Please be careful while posting the question. Make sure the correct words are underlined and the answer choices do not miss out any word/words that might be crucial for selection or elimination.

The French general Henri Petain, a highly-decorated World War I military leader, had his reputation ruined because of his collaboration with Nazis during the German Occupation in World War II.

Since the meaning of this sentence is pretty clear, let me start with error analysis. There are two things that I would say here:

1. Notice that comma is not in the non-underlined portion of the sentence. So we must remember always that we have a comma before the verb “had”.

2. “had” in this sentence is not a past perfect tense. It is a simple past tense verb for “have/has”. “Has/have/had” only become past perfect tense when they are followed by another verb.

Notice that “ruined” here is a verb-ed modifier that modifies the preceding noun “reputation”.

Also, it does not make sense for the sentence to use past perfect tense because this sentence is giving us general information about Henry Petain. Hence, the sentence is correctly written in simple past tense.

Again, there is just one verb in this sentence. Past perfect is used to establish time sequencing between two past events.

This sentence has no error because the subject “The French general Henri Petain” has been correctly modified by “a highly-decorated World War I military leader”.

POE:

A. The French general Henry Petain, a highly-decorated World War I military leader: Correct for reasons stated above.

B. Henry Petain, a French general who was a highly-decorated World War I military leader: Incorrect. The relative pronoun clause “who… leader” makes this information non-essential for the sentence. The sentence now seems to say that Henry Petain was a French general who had his reputation ruined for this reason. By the way, he was a highly decorated World War I military leader. This is not the intended meaning. Petain’s being a highly decorated WW I leader sets the contrast. Once a celebrated leader, Petain lost his reputation later.

C. Highly-decorated World War I military leader, the French general Henry Petain: Incorrect. Remember we have still have the comma before the verb “had”. In this choice, the subject and the verb are separated with a comma. This is not a grammatical construction. The opening verb-ed modifier is correctly modifying the subject.

D. The French general Henry Petain, who was a highly-decorated military leader for World War I: Incorrect.
1. Repeats the same “who” error of choice B.
2. Use of preposition “for” is incorrect.

E. The highly-decorated French general Henri Petain, a military leader for World War I: Incorrect.
1. Modifier “the highly decorated” is now placed before “the French general Henri Petain”. The choice now says that Retain was a highly decorated French general and was just a leader in World War I. It does not say that he was a highly-decorated leader in WW I. This again reduces the contrast that he lost his reputation in WW II.
2. Repeats the preposition error of Choice D.

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My understanding:

1] The French general Henri Petain, a highly-decorated World War I military leader, had ....
Here noun phrase makes the identification of Henri Petain unique, making modifier phrase non-essential using comma. Hence CORRECT

2] Henry Petain, a French general who was a highly-decorated World War I military leader,... Noun Henry Petain is not unique, so an essential clause would be required. Use of comma make the noun modifier non-essential: INCORRECT

3] Using the noun Henri Petain in first clause would be a better fit: INCORRECT

4] "who" is always used with essential clause (without comma).: INCORRECT

5] "highly-decorated French general Henri Petain": awkward use: INCORRECT

Here, noun is not unique, so the modifier need to be an essential clause. Use of comma makes the modifier non-essential. INCORRECT.

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The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader, had his reputation ruined because of his collaboration with Nazis during the german occupation in World War II.

A) The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader
B) Hanary Patin, a French general who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
C) Highly-decorated world war I military leader, the French general Hanary Patin,
D) The French general Henary Petain who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
E) The highly-decorated French general Henary Petain, a military leader for world war I


Watch out question B and C it is Petain not Patin!!

==> Then for this question, GMAT prefers when it is kept simple: here you must have: the French General Henary Petain : Always keep it simple!

==> Elimilate the wordy and incorrect answers: C and E (Had need to be related with the French General Henary Petain)

==> Then "who was a highly-decorated..." is wordy and not necessary.

Answer A!

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In the option A, Isn't the group of words ' highly-decorated ' modifying world war I ?
In fact it is the General who is highly decorated?

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The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader, had his reputation ruined because of his collaboration with Nazis during the german occupation in World War II.

A) The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader
B) Hanary Patin, a French general who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
C) Highly-decorated world war I military leader, the French general Hanary Patin,
D) The French general Henary Petain who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
E) The highly-decorated French general Henary Petain, a military leader for world war I


A seems perfectly fine.
B changes the meaning from the french general to a general french.
C I don't understand the switch - maybe same thing...but A seems better worded...
D introduction of relative pronoun is not needed..
E puts the highly decorated from "fluf" to "important" - so not good...

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Hi there,

PS: Please be careful while posting the question. Make sure the correct words are underlined and the answer choices do not miss out any word/words that might be crucial for selection or elimination.

The French general Henri Petain, a highly-decorated World War I military leader, had his reputation ruined because of his collaboration with Nazis during the German Occupation in World War II.

Since the meaning of this sentence is pretty clear, let me start with error analysis. There are two things that I would say here:

1. Notice that comma is not in the non-underlined portion of the sentence. So we must remember always that we have a comma before the verb “had”.

2. “had” in this sentence is not a past perfect tense. It is a simple past tense verb for “have/has”. “Has/have/had” only become past perfect tense when they are followed by another verb.

Notice that “ruined” here is a verb-ed modifier that modifies the preceding noun “reputation”.

Also, it does not make sense for the sentence to use past perfect tense because this sentence is giving us general information about Henry Petain. Hence, the sentence is correctly written in simple past tense.

Again, there is just one verb in this sentence. Past perfect is used to establish time sequencing between two past events.

This sentence has no error because the subject “The French general Henri Petain” has been correctly modified by “a highly-decorated World War I military leader”.

POE:

A. The French general Henry Petain, a highly-decorated World War I military leader: Correct for reasons stated above.

B. Henry Petain, a French general who was a highly-decorated World War I military leader: Incorrect. The relative pronoun clause “who… leader” makes this information non-essential for the sentence. The sentence now seems to say that Henry Petain was a French general who had his reputation ruined for this reason. By the way, he was a highly decorated World War I military leader. This is not the intended meaning. Petain’s being a highly decorated WW I leader sets the contrast. Once a celebrated leader, Petain lost his reputation later.

C. Highly-decorated World War I military leader, the French general Henry Petain: Incorrect. Remember we have still have the comma before the verb “had”. In this choice, the subject and the verb are separated with a comma. This is not a grammatical construction. The opening verb-ed modifier is correctly modifying the subject.

D. The French general Henry Petain, who was a highly-decorated military leader for World War I: Incorrect.
1. Repeats the same “who” error of choice B.
2. Use of preposition “for” is incorrect.

E. The highly-decorated French general Henri Petain, a military leader for World War I: Incorrect.
1. Modifier “the highly decorated” is now placed before “the French general Henri Petain”. The choice now says that Retain was a highly decorated French general and was just a leader in World War I. It does not say that he was a highly-decorated leader in WW I. This again reduces the contrast that he lost his reputation in WW II.
2. Repeats the preposition error of Choice D.

Hope this helps.
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Hi My answer was C. In the oginal question also, the subject and the verb are seprated with a comma.

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The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader, had his reputation ruined because of his collaboration with Nazis during the german occupation in World War II.

A) The French general Henary Petain, a highly-decorated world war I military leader
Precise. CORRECT.
B) Hanary Patin, a French general who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
Describes too much about Hanary's origin. not precise.
C) Highly-decorated world war I military leader, the French general Hanary Patin,


Highly-decorated world war I military leader, ..., had his reputation
Sentence construction issue.
D) The French general Henary Petain who was a highly-decorated world war I military leader
Wordy.Sentence construction issue.
E) The highly-decorated French general Henary Petain, a military leader for world war I
Changes the meaning.
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