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New post 16 Dec 2011, 12:50
I got E also. I got this as a question of the day and the answer had said D. Not sure why.
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New post 17 Dec 2011, 10:15
Great question. I learned a lot. Thanks guys.
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New post 20 Dec 2011, 01:05
I am learning from this question. I picked D. Now explanation for E making sense.
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New post 20 Dec 2011, 01:37
finally agreed with E as it is converted from direct speech to indirect speech.
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The govt implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future"...
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New post 18 Dec 2012, 12:10
GMATT73 wrote:
Past statements with future implication(s) always takes the modal (could/would) form.

The second "that" isn't necessary here because "it" clearly refers to the same commissioner's statement on behalf of the government.



I agree upon both the points put forth by GMATT73. Would is apparently the correct usage in this sentence and the second "that" is not necessary.
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The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, that it would try to prevent the outbreak from reccurring in the future.
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New post 12 Dec 2013, 11:24
Definitely between D and E

E for me because it cements the fact that the government "would try." Without the second that, the sentence could be interpreted as the health commissioner would try - even though the sentence incorrectly uses "it" as the pronoun instead of he/she.

In other words, the second "that" helps clarify the meaning.
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New post 12 Dec 2013, 11:32
Also, it seems in reposting the question D has 2 VERSIONS??

Can anyone find the correct answer choices?

Some of you have posted answer D as

"it would try"

and some have posted it as

"it would have tried"
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New post 26 May 2014, 19:44
Since ", that it would try..." is an independent clause, don't we require a coordinating conjunction? How is it OK to not have one here?
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Since ", that it would try..." is an independent clause, don't we require a coordinating conjunction? How is it OK to not have one here?


You are correct. The conjunction is present
Did the question 1 week back and got it right...Here it is

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

A. it will try
B. that it tried
C. it had tried
D. it would have tried
E. that it would try

Here is the sentence break up for you

The health commissioner said (2 things)
that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and

, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

The Original sentence becomes " The health commissioner said
that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future."

Since we need construction to be parallel, we will need a conjunction "and" as you pointed out and that construction as well.

Only E does that.
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WoundedTiger wrote:
russ9 wrote:
Since ", that it would try..." is an independent clause, don't we require a coordinating conjunction? How is it OK to not have one here?


You are correct. The conjunction is present
Did the question 1 week back and got it right...Here it is

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

A. it will try
B. that it tried
C. it had tried
D. it would have tried
E. that it would try

Here is the sentence break up for you

The health commissioner said (2 things)
that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and

, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

The Original sentence becomes " The health commissioner said
that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future."

Since we need construction to be parallel, we will need a conjunction "and" as you pointed out and that construction as well.

Only E does that.


Hi again, WoundedTiger,

Are you saying that the "AND" works because it is BEFORE the comma. Meaning, if the sentence stated:

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food, and despite the recent illnesses, that it would tryto prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future. -- In this case, since the "and" is in the modifier, the final choice would be incorrect b/c it would miss a coordinating conjunction. Am I right in assuming this?
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New post 27 May 2014, 21:16
Just try reading the sentence without ', despite the recent illnesses,' .
usage of 'that' is very much required after 'and'

Option B and E are left.

As we require an action that 'would' recur in future.

Option E is correct.
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russ9 wrote:
WoundedTiger wrote:
russ9 wrote:
Since ", that it would try..." is an independent clause, don't we require a coordinating conjunction? How is it OK to not have one here?


You are correct. The conjunction is present
Did the question 1 week back and got it right...Here it is

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

A. it will try
B. that it tried
C. it had tried
D. it would have tried
E. that it would try

Here is the sentence break up for you

The health commissioner said (2 things)
that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and

, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

The Original sentence becomes " The health commissioner said
that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future."

Since we need construction to be parallel, we will need a conjunction "and" as you pointed out and that construction as well.

Only E does that.


Hi again, WoundedTiger,

Are you saying that the "AND" works because it is BEFORE the comma. Meaning, if the sentence stated:

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food, and despite the recent illnesses, that it would tryto prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future. -- In this case, since the "and" is in the modifier, the final choice would be incorrect b/c it would miss a coordinating conjunction. Am I right in assuming this?


Yes, You are correct on this. Since we need to join 2 Dependent clauses with that, we will need " and ". But note if the 2 sentences to be joined were Independent clauses then the construction will be

IC 1, and IC 2 unless and until there is a list in the sentence. List can be of anything verbs, adjectives or any other quality then again construction will be.... verb 1 and verb 2
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New post 30 May 2014, 13:16
E for me. The questions tests Parallelism and Tenses.
Parallelism - The health commissioner said that X and that Y. - Here X and Y need to be parallel by using 'that'.
Tense - The health commissioner said (past) that the government would (conditional tense) try in the future. As the commissioner said it in the past, the future verb needs to be expressed using conditional form which means to use "would" as part of the verb.
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Consider the examples :
The man said that he would buy a new car &
-The man said that he will buy a new car.
The first sentence is correct!
On similar line this question can be attempted.

Is there anything wrong if we remove 'that' from the correct option ?
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As I always say, first apply direct-indirect-speech check on sentence.

Sentence is in indirect speech: THC said that ...

So we will have to take care of verb tenses applicable for indirect speech.

was becomes had had
will becomes would.
etc...

Considering required parallelism, we can eliminate A,C, and D.

Between B and E, only E is using correct verb tense applicable in indirect speech. Therefore, E is OA.

The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, it will try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

A) it will try
B) that it tried
C) it had tried
D) it would try
E) that it would try
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The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, [that] it would try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

In this statement is the usage of "that" necessary?
Can't "that" be counted across parallel elements?

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The health commissioner said that the government had implemented strict measures to eradicate the contaminated food and, despite the recent illnesses, [that] it would try to prevent the outbreak from recurring in the future.

In this statement is the usage of "that" necessary?
Can't "that" be counted across parallel elements?

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Dear qwerty12321,
That's a great question, and I am happy to help. :-)

Technically, according to the rules of Parallelism, the first "that" could be construed as "outside" the parallelism, so it would cover both clauses, and we wouldn't need the second "that." Technically, this is correct, according to the once-outside-twice-inside rule. See:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-paral ... ce-inside/

BUT, in practice, "that" clauses are big bulky things, and for clarity of the sentence, most sophisticated writers, including the folks at GMAC, always repeat the second "that" for overall clarity. Even though, by the rules of Parallelism, we don't have to repeat the "that," in practice the GMAT always does, so for GMAT purposes, essentially it is a rule that we need to repeat the word "that."

Does this make sense?
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In this case and many others, you repeat the subordinator (in this case "that") to avoid ambiguity. Although I agree with you in the sense that perhaps no ambiguity is possible in this sentence.

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Two parallel clauses often both start with subordinators in order to remove ambiguity.
Wrong: I want to retire to a place WHERE I can relax AND I pay low taxes.
Right: I want to retire to a place WHERE I can relax AND WHERE I pay low taxes.
Without the repetition of the subordinator where, the first sentence could be read I want to retire... and
I pay low taxes. Repeating the where eliminates ambiguity. The subordinators do not have to be identical.
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