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The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was normal.
Meaning:
The herbicide was produced even in 1979 which was 3 years after the wives of workers who produce the chemical in Rensselaer were found to have had miscarriages and to have borne children with Heart defects. Also, none of the pregnancies was normal.

Error Analysis:
A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages- This does not clearly imply that the wives were found to have miscarriages. Instead it creates an ambiguity by incorrectly implying that the wives borne children with heart defects or borne children with miscarriages. -Eliminate
B) similar error as in (A). It incorrectly implies that children were born with heart defects or children were born with miscarriages. - Eliminate
C) *Either.. or parallelism is not maintained.
* none of the pregnancies is more precise than without any of their pregnancies
*incorrect use of being
D)*Correct use of either.. or.. parallelism
*Correctly connects 2 independent clauses that are closely related in terms of subject matter using a semicolon. -- Correct
E)Same errors as in option (C)

IMO: OPTION D
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Error is meaning wives has children with heart defect or miscarriage , it looks like children have miscarriage

A have same error with ....were found ... And none of their ...another errot
B same as A
C either x or y error and being make things pasisve
D perfect
E either x or y

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The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was normal.

(A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was
(B) to have had children born with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of the pregnancies was
(C) either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages, without any of their pregnancies being
(D) either to have had miscarriages or to have borne children with heart defects; none of the pregnancies was
(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects, without any of their pregnancies being

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IMO B

A) ambiguous antecedent for "their" --- Incorrect
B)Concise and in accordance with the original sentence--- Correct
C) Same as A ---- Incorrect
D) Wordy- unnecessary use of either..or...-- Incorrect
E) Same as A-- Incorrect
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The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was normal.

(A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was
(B) to have had children born with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of the pregnancies was
(C) either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages, without any of their pregnancies being
(D) either to have had miscarriages or to have borne children with heart defects; none of the pregnancies was
(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects, without any of their pregnancies being

The wives were found - 1) to have had children borne with heart defects
2) to have borne children with heart defects

a. Use of their is ambiguous
b. "or miscarriages" is not connected with to have, making the choice incorrect.
c and e. Not parallel.
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The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was normal.

(A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was - Illogical meaning - children did not have miscarriages
(B) to have had children born with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of the pregnancies was - Illogical meaning - children did not have miscarriages
(C) either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages, without any of their pregnancies being - parallelism issue - either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages ; Illogical meaning - children did not have miscarriages
(D) either to have had miscarriages or to have borne children with heart defects; none of the pregnancies was - Correct
(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects, without any of their pregnancies being - parallelism issue - either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects

Answer D

none of the pregnancies was normal -- I thought none of the pregnancies should take plural verb were (Though did not face an issue since that wasn't a decision point in this question)

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was conflicted between B and D. but seems like B has modifier error.
D is the best option.
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Re: The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years [#permalink]
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The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was normal.

(A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was
(B) to have had children born with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of the pregnancies was
(C) either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages, without any of their pregnancies being
(D) either to have had miscarriages or to have borne children with heart defects; none of the pregnancies was
(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects, without any of their pregnancies being

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Choices A and B are incorrect because with governs both heart defects and, miscarriages; in other words, choice A says that the children and not the women suffered the miscarriages. For the sentence to make sense, miscarriages must be the object of a verb that has wives as its subject. Also, their in choices A, C, and E is ambiguous because it is far from its referent, wives. Choices C and E lack parallel construction: a verb form like the one after either should appear after or. Choice D is the best answer.
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aragonn daagh shouldnt it be "none of the pregnancies WERE.... " ?? None is one of the SANAM. and hence depends on the main subject (pregnancies)
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aragonn daagh shouldnt it be "none of the pregnancies WERE.... " ?? None is one of the SANAM. and hence depends on the main subject (pregnancies)


Rule - None is another exception. It can take either singular or plural. Ex - None of the ties fit this shirt. (Ties is plural, so the verb is plural.) But when none refers to a singular, uncountable noun, the verb is singular: None of the pizza has been eaten.

My take is that 'pregnancies' is uncountable over here. I mean everyone has one pregnancy ? pronouncing it one/two is not making much sense. Better phrase should be pregnancy of two people. I think It should be singular. Though I will take daagh sir's opinion too.
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Surprisingly i chose D BUT i have a doubt in one verb :)

As far as i know there is difference between verbs Born Vs Borne

We use "born" in the phrase be born to indicate that a child has entered this crazy world :)

"Borne" is past participle of verb "bear" i.e. bear, bore, borne - means to tolerate something. I dont get how can this verb be used in the context below (in option D) :?


gmatbusters you could include "born" vs "borne" into your collection of confusable words :grin:

(A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was ( incorrect usage of verb Borne + pronoun "their" ambiguity)
(B) to have had children born with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of the pregnancies was ( "either" is missing )
(C) either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages, without any of their pregnancies being ( pronoun "their" ambiguity )
(D) either to have had miscarriages or to have borne children with heart defects; none of the pregnancies was (CORRECT SV agreement + "either ... or" )
(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects, without any of their pregnancies being ( INCORRECT pronoun "their" ambiguity and many other defects :) )



generis may be you can enlighten me ? :)
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AdityaHongunti wrote:
aragonn daagh shouldnt it be "none of the pregnancies WERE.... " ?? None is one of the SANAM. and hence depends on the main subject (pregnancies)


Rule - None is another exception. It can take either singular or plural. Ex - None of the ties fit this shirt. (Ties is plural, so the verb is plural.) But when none refers to a singular, uncountable noun, the verb is singular: None of the pizza has been eaten.

My take is that 'pregnancies' is uncountable over here. I mean everyone has one pregnancy ? pronouncing it one/two is not making much sense. Better phrase should be pregnancy of two people. I think It should be singular. Though I will take daagh sir's opinion too.


I do not think that pregnancies here is uncountable :
"wives of workers.... " the subject is wives ( plural of wife) , which makes sense because wives OF WORKERS makes sense. Now if "pregnancies" were uncountable, Wives would have to be too. Wives = multiple woman. Countable. They will have their own pregnancies . SO the author is saying pregnancies(individual pregnancy of each ) of those wives of workers.....

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aragonn wrote:
AdityaHongunti wrote:
aragonn daagh shouldnt it be "none of the pregnancies WERE.... " ?? None is one of the SANAM. and hence depends on the main subject (pregnancies)


Rule - None is another exception. It can take either singular or plural. Ex - None of the ties fit this shirt. (Ties is plural, so the verb is plural.) But when none refers to a singular, uncountable noun, the verb is singular: None of the pizza has been eaten.

My take is that 'pregnancies' is uncountable over here. I mean everyone has one pregnancy ? pronouncing it one/two is not making much sense. Better phrase should be pregnancy of two people. I think It should be singular. Though I will take daagh sir's opinion too.

I do not think that pregnancies here is uncountable :
"wives of workers.... " the subject is wives ( plural of wife) , which makes sense because wives OF WORKERS makes sense. Now if "pregnancies" were uncountable, Wives would have to be too. Wives = multiple woman. Countable. They will have their own pregnancies . SO the author is saying pregnancies(individual pregnancy of each ) of those wives of workers.....

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aragonn and AdityaHongunti

I'm sure if the guys above want to add something they will.

Pregnancy in English is both a countable and uncountable noun.

Dictionary definitions might help:
Cambridge Dictionary online is HERE and
Longman's is HERE

Uncountable: Teen pregnancy is a growing problem.
Countable: Her first pregnancy coincided with the writing of her PhD dissertation.

Because the pregnancies in this question are endured and possessed by real women,
the pregnancies are countable.
"Their" pregnancies -- and the number of heart defects in the babies who developed during
those women's pregnancies -- are countable.

GMAT generally treats NONE as singular.
Linguists debate hotly about whether NONE can be plural.
GMAC tends to stay away from heated linguistic debates.

Both egmat HERE, and
and RonPurewal HERE assert that GMAC does not test the issue. (None is singular.)

GMAC? NONE = singular.
A non-issue.
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So to conclude ignore none and look for another error...
Cool?
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So to conclude ignore none and look for another error...
Cool?

• Yes, ignore none, except in one case, see below.
"None" standing alone is not a decision point.

daagh and sowmiyav gave the best answers.

Correlative conjunctions and parallelism
One answer uses the term "correlative," which may not be familiar to some people.
Correlative conjunctions work together, join one sentence element to another, come in pairs, and must be used in particular ways.

A few examples of correlative conjunctions include either/or, not only/but also, as/as, and as many/as.

• Correlative conjunctions that involve prepositions such as with must be checked for parallelism.

The first word in the correlative conjunction determines where the parallelism begins.
In option E the setup of the correlative conjunction either/or plus to is incorrect.

(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects
-- We need either X and or Y to be parallel.

In E the either X/or Y phrases are not parallel. In (E) we have either to have had X or Y (the "to have had" should also come before Y and does not)

What is the rule about where the preposition belongs? We have two choices.

1) we can make two parallel prepositional phrases.
We use to twice AFTER the "start" word of the pair.
Correct, parallel prepositional phrases: either to X or to Y
(E), corrected: [either] to have had miscarriages [or] to have had children born with defects

2) we can use one preposition followed by two parallel coordinate conjunction phrases
We use to just one time, BEFORE the "start" word of the pair: to either X or Y
(E), corrected: to have had [either miscarriages or children born with heart defects]

Incorrect constructions
Incorrect because the TO phrase is used only one time after either, such that only either is modified:
either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects :x
either to X or Y :x

Also incorrect (not shown) because the TO phrase is used one time before the start word either and one time after
to have had either miscarriages or to have had children born with defects :x
to either X or to Y :x

The subject of prepositional parallelism with coordinate conjunctions is difficult.
THIS POST by Mike McGarry discusses "once outside, twice inside" in the
context of "correlative" conjunctions such as either/or.

Final note about NONE
Although the phrase none of the pregnancies was
has no errors, uses simple and clear construction [NONE of the] + Subject + Verb . . .
I would not use the phrase as a first decision point (compared to "without any . . .").

At the same time, the phrase, without any of their pregnancies being normal is MUCH worse than the none phrase.
So I would use the "none" phrase if I were down to two answers,
say, D and E.
I would pick none of over without any of and eliminate answer E
in order to avoid the lengthier thought process about the first parts of D and E.
Just a thought on strategy.
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The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979, three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was normal.
The problem is the placement of the modifier 'with heart defects or miscarriages.' Both the elements are modifying the children. However, it is absurd to expect children to have miscarriages. The wives had miscarriages and the children, if born, had heart defects. Therefore, it is essential to break the two elements and bring miscarriages close to the wives.
'Their' also has to refer to the wives only, since we do not expect children to have pregnancies. Seen in this light,



(A) to have borne children with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of their pregnancies was --- wrong word order. Miscarriages should modify the wives
(B) to have had children born with heart defects or miscarriages, and none of the pregnancies was -- The same problem as in A.
(C) either to have had children with heart defects or miscarriages, without any of their pregnancies being ---- 1. Being as a modifier is not correct2. Miscarriages should point to wives. 3. Either or correlative parallelism is defective.
(D) either to have had miscarriages or to have borne children with heart defects; none of the pregnancies was ----- correct
(E) either to have had miscarriages or children born with heart defects, without any of their pregnancies being --- 1. Either or correlative parallelism is defective 2. Being as a modifier is incorrect.

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I have doubt in parallelism in either part there is clause where as in or part there is phrase how are they parallel
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You are referring to choice D, I suppose. In 'either part,' could you please indicate the specified clause that you think is there.? As I see, 'either to have had miscarriages' is only an infinitive phrase. One can see that there is no tensed verb in that part.

Originally posted by daagh on 19 Nov 2018, 09:36.
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The herbicide Oryzalin was still being produced in 1979 - Independent Clause
three years after the wives of workers producing the chemical in Rensselaer, New York, were found - Independent Clause

Both the IC are joined by just a Comma. I am finding it hard to digest. As we know two IC should be joined by Comma + FANBOYS.

Can you please help me with the understanding. What i am missing here?
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