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[quote="udaymathapati"]The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.

A.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members

B.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and also accountability among all team members

C.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members

D.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability between all team members

E.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability
between all the team members

My doubt on this question revolves around the usage of ',and' and 'and' used between communication and accountability. As per my understanding , and is used to separate two ICs or listing and And is used for parallel elements of Dependent clause. Please correct me to understand where I am making mistake.
Usage of Between is indeed wrong over here.

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My thinking here is that in some situations GMAC may offer you the five options that all seem wrong in one way or the other. You have to pick the best out of the given five option.

So I proceeded with the question in a following way..

Use of 'like' is wrong here.

So eliminate option A and option D

In option B, parallelism is not followed as after conjunction 'and', you have 'also'
In option E, use of 'and' is not correct.

Hence option C is correct.

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My thinking here is that in some situations GMAC may offer you the five options that all seem wrong in one way or the other. You have to pick the best out of the given five option.

So I proceeded with the question in a following way..

Use of 'like' is wrong here.

So eliminate option A and option D

In option B, parallelism is not followed as after conjunction 'and', you have 'also'
In option E, use of 'and' is not correct.

Hence option C is correct.

Please correct me if I am wrong.



Hi DesiGMAT,
Can you please elaborate on:
a) why having 'also' violate parallelism in option B
b) how use of and is incorrect.

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Whats wrong with E??if someone can elaborate?

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Whats wrong with E??if someone can elaborate?


Following three formats would be correct if in a list elements are connected.
Such as A, B, C , AND D
Such as A, B and C, and
P .... Such as A, B ,and C, and Q is also correct because Q is paired up with P.

Such as is used to quote examples. following is the list of examples here in this question:
1. morale
2. team cohesion
3. communication
4. accountability

when there are more than two elements to be connected then the AND is used with comma right before the last element in the list of element.
when only elements are connected with "AND" then no need of comma before AND
that's why "C" is the correct choice which put "team cohesion" & communication together using AND without comma before it and uses the comma before AND for the last element accountability

Option E is wrong because-
Look at this structure - "P ....many things Such as A, B ,and C, and Q". this structure is also correct because Q is paired up with P. but in option E "Q" is part of the list A,B,C only because there is no "P" to pair it with.
if communication is the last element in the list of elements which are used as examples then what is "accountability" paired up with because it has ", and " before it.
Accountability indeed is another element for quoting the example. so E is wrong.
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can someone explain what is the difference between option C and E. i chose option E :(.

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I beg to differ from the logic of multiple one-to-one relationships between two individuals in a collective phenomenon as management. It is not that the supervisor’s job extends to just one individual. It pervades vertically up and down and horizontally with peers. So the relationship is never between two people alone but among many, many others. Compare it with family relationships when a person has a relationship of a grandfather to his grandchildren, father to his own offsprings and husband to his wife, brother to his sister and so on. Such phenomena are just not isolated but are carried out individually and severally.

I wouldn’t think use of ‘between’ is proper;


Any experts want to elaborate on this one? I was shocked to see that 'between' was correct, I absolutely agree with Daagh here, but it would be nice to have someone else opinion to clarify this one

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Well , here is how I arrived to the solution . I agree with you that the use of between is likely to be incorrect but since it is already in all the solutions let's just bear with it. Then I was confused between C and E and chose C since I think that " between two members" can be correct however " between all team members" is wrong and the use of among is essential here


There is nothing like "between two members" in option C.

only difference is could see is "the members"

can anyone explain the difference between option C n E?

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Here is my take on this question. Hope this helps.
A. Like vs such as (Although some say that it is not a make or break issue, I still prefer such as to like when presenting examples)
B. and also is redundant
C. Correct
D and E distort the list

However, the use of between still trumps me. Could it be that they are referring to collaboration between 2 of the team members at a time?

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The examples in E do not conver the intended meaning - cohesion and communication is w.r.t team (intent highlights the challenges w.r.t geographically distributed workforce)

E - wrongly differentiates the examples of team cohesion and communication. This aspect is correctly highlighted in C.
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DOUBT

I eliminated options A and D for the incorrect usage of "Like" while giving list of things. Such as should be used instead.
Next, I eliminated option E because "Team cohesion" has a comma after it, making the sentence have two "and". This makes the sentence incorrect. "E" eliminated.

Left with B and C, all that is different in these options is among and between. As usual, I was left with two options. Putting my knowledge of among (which should be used when you compare more than two bodies) and between (which should be used when you compare two bodies), I chose "B"- INCORRECT !!! :(

Can someone please explain WHY OPTIONS B IS INCORRECT and options C is CORRECT ? Thanks


Hi Backbencher,

Here are the two most confusing answer choices:
B) The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and also accountability among all team

C) The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.

If you carefully study these two choices, Choice B carries an extra word “also”, which is not quite required here in the sentence. This makes Choice C more concise.

About the usage of between – Well, commonly we use “between” when we talk about two entities and we use “among” when we talk about more than two entities. However, “between” can also be used when we want to show multiple pair relations.

Consider the example presented by the original post:
• Water ran between my toes.

This sentence does not mean that I have just two toes. It means that every toe has a pair relation with every other toe. This is the meaning that is denoted by the use of “between” in Choice C.

So between the two Choices, Choice C emerges as the winner.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
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Hi,

I would like to focus on "accountability between all team members" in Option B. This is a clear idiomatic error, and thus, B cannot be the correct choice.
I agree that "between" can be used when comparing multiple pair relations, but in this case, the sentence is not referring to any pair. It is bluntly referring to the whole team.
I doubt whether the source is correct.

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The examples in E do not conver the intended meaning - cohesion and communication is w.r.t team (intent highlights the challenges w.r.t geographically distributed workforce)

E - wrongly differentiates the examples of team cohesion and communication. This aspect is correctly highlighted in C.



Hi Aryama,

Kindly let us know if there any markers or something which can indicate such usage of between.

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I beg to differ from the logic of multiple one-to-one relationships between two individuals in a collective phenomenon as management. It is not that the supervisor’s job extends to just one individual. It pervades vertically up and down and horizontally with peers. So the relationship is never between two people alone but among many, many others. Compare it with family relationships when a person has a relationship of a grandfather to his grandchildren, father to his own offsprings and husband to his wife, brother to his sister and so on. Such phenomena are just not isolated but are carried out individually and severally.

I wouldn’t think use of ‘between’ is proper;


Agree with Daagh here! 'Between' is used when we are talking about distinct individual items even if the number is more than two. For e.g "He could choose between Harvard, Stanford and Yale."

On the other hand we use "among" when talking about things that are not distinct individual or items.

Panic spread among the captured.
Accountability is divided among team members.

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The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.


1st error that "screams" for attention - like for examples.


A)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members
out

B)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and also accountability among all team
redundancy at it's best!

C)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.
seems ok. all entities of the list are parallel, so might be the answer.

D)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability between all team members
out

E)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability between all the team members
parallelism error :(

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Backbencher wrote:
DOUBT

I eliminated options A and D for the incorrect usage of "Like" while giving list of things. Such as should be used instead.
Next, I eliminated option E because "Team cohesion" has a comma after it, making the sentence have two "and". This makes the sentence incorrect. "E" eliminated.

Left with B and C, all that is different in these options is among and between. As usual, I was left with two options. Putting my knowledge of among (which should be used when you compare more than two bodies) and between (which should be used when you compare two bodies), I chose "B"- INCORRECT !!! :(

Can someone please explain WHY OPTIONS B IS INCORRECT and options C is CORRECT ? Thanks


Hi Backbencher,

Here are the two most confusing answer choices:
B) The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and also accountability among all team

C) The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.

If you carefully study these two choices, Choice B carries an extra word “also”, which is not quite required here in the sentence. This makes Choice C more concise.

About the usage of between – Well, commonly we use “between” when we talk about two entities and we use “among” when we talk about more than two entities. However, “between” can also be used when we want to show multiple pair relations.

Consider the example presented by the original post:
• Water ran between my toes.

This sentence does not mean that I have just two toes. It means that every toe has a pair relation with every other toe. This is the meaning that is denoted by the use of “between” in Choice C.

So between the two Choices, Choice C emerges as the winner.

Hope this helps. :)
Thanks.
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Hi,

I would like to focus on "accountability between all team members" in Option B. This is a clear idiomatic error, and thus, B cannot be the correct choice.
I agree that "between" can be used when comparing multiple pair relations, but in this case, the sentence is not referring to any pair. It is bluntly referring to the whole team.
I doubt whether the source is correct.


I also had my doubts, so I looked it up. This is what I have found.

Merriam Webster - Usage Discussion of between

There is a persistent but unfounded notion that between can be used only of two items and that among must be used for more than two. Between has been used of more than two since Old English; it is especially appropriate to denote a one-to-one relationship, regardless of the number of items. It can be used when the number is unspecified<economic cooperation between nations> , when more than two are enumerated <between you and me and the lamppost> <partitioned between Austria, Prussia, and Russia — Nathaniel Benchley>, and even when only one item is mentioned (but repetition is implied) <pausing between every sentence to rap the floor — George Eliot>. Among is more appropriate where the emphasis is on distribution rather than individual relationships <discontent among the peasants>.
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C)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.

E)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability between all the team members

Am I seeing this wrong? the only difference I see between the two options is the "THE"
I don't understand what is the difference between the two options.

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C)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.

E)The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability between all the team members

Am I seeing this wrong? the only difference I see between the two options is the "THE"
I don't understand what is the difference between the two options.



Look at the comma after cohesion. Cohesion and communication refer to team and should not use a comma because they are only two elements. That is what makes answer E incorrect.
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The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members.

A.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members

B.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and also accountability among all team members

C.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion and communication, and accountability between all team members

D.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges like morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability between all team members

E.The management of a workforce distributed geographically carries with it challenges such as morale, team cohesion, and communication, and accountability between all the team members

Is the following explanation correct for the answer given?
While "between" is explicitly used for two people or things and "among" for more than two, "between" can be used when expressing multiple similar one-to-one relationships, as in "the water ran between my toes."


daagh I thought B at first too but I realized that what this sentence is trying to convey is the various relationships between several team members, respectively. Among would be correct if it meant the collective accountability of all team members. Accountability "among" team members implies that all the team members are cooperative in a sort of unified way but this sentence is simply trying to convey accountability between several relationships within the staff not necessarily cooperation among all of them. So if there are 40 some team members, and John and Suzy demonstrate accountability and Deepak and Lee also demonstrate accountability then that is fine. It's hard to explain.

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