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The members of the hiring committee agreed that if the applicant had been honest about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him; unfortunately, the lie cost him the job.

A) about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him

B) concerning his lacking of a college degree, they would hire him

C) about the lack of a college degree, they would still hire him

D) about his lack of a college degree, they would have hired him

E) as to his lacking a college degree, they were hiring him



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The members of the hiring committee agreed that if the applicant had been honest about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him; unfortunately, the lie cost him the job.

A) about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him

B) concerning his lacking of a college degree, they would hire him

C) about the lack of a college degree, they would still hire him

D) about his lack of a college degree, they would have hired him

E) as to his lacking a college degree, they were hiring him



IMO option D is correct. The format "If x had happened....then y would have happened" is correct. The conditional tense is required to get the correct meaning across.
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The members of the hiring committee agreed that if the applicant had been honest about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him; unfortunately, the lie cost him the job.

A) about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him

B) concerning his lacking of a college degree, they would hire him

C) about the lack of a college degree, they would still hire him

D) about his lack of a college degree, they would have hired him ( Correct, had been and would have represented correct tense usage)

E) as to his lacking a college degree, they were hiring him ( Incorrect meaning)
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The members of the hiring committee agreed that if the applicant had been honest about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him; unfortunately, the lie cost him the job.

A) about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him

B) concerning his lacking of a college degree, they would hire him

C) about the lack of a college degree, they would still hire him

D) about his lack of a college degree, they would have hired him

E) as to his lacking a college degree, they were hiring him


Someone would be honest about something rather than honest as/ concerning, with this in mind we can remove B and E.

Now the intent of the sentence was more of an condition, If X would had happened then Y could be possible.

A can be eliminated, The event was already done, he is not considered for the position now.

I eliminated C on the intent of the sentence, they wont be hiring him, i needed a past tense here.

D wins by all means.
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If the 'if clause' is in past perfect tense then the main clause following the 'if clause' should have ''would have''.

Only option-D follows the above rule.

Hence D
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The members of the hiring committee agreed that if the applicant had been honest about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him; unfortunately, the lie cost him the job.

Question is all about conditionals.
We have"had been honest" in non-underlined part, so we need "would + have + verb" for then clause.
This is 3d conditional things that didn't happen in the past and their imaginary results or hypothetical situations.
Its description perfectly sutis for us.

The memebers of the hiring committee agreed:
If Aplicants tell the trouth about their lacking a college degree, company will hire them, but they are afraid and hence lie to the hiring committee. As a result they don't get any job. As all this things is hypothetical situations of the hiring committee memebers thoughts, third conditional will conrrectly express intended meaning fo the sentence.

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A) about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him

B) concerning his lacking of a college degree, they would hire him

C) about the lack of a college degree, they would still hire him

D) about his lack of a college degree, they would have hired him

E) as to his lacking a college degree, they were hiring him

D is the answer
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The members of the hiring committee agreed that if the applicant had been honest about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him; unfortunately, the lie cost him the job.

A) about his lacking a college degree, they would hire him
B) concerning his lacking of a college degree, they would hire him
C) about the lack of a college degree, they would still hire him
D) about his lack of a college degree, they would have hired him
E) as to his lacking a college degree, they were hiring him

Source: PowerScore GMAT Sentence Correction Bible, 2019 edition

OFFICIAL EXPLANATION

• The errors in this sentence are awkward word choice [which this author actually explains!]
and conditional verb tense

• The phrase his lacking a [college degree] is awkward [in part because] lacking can be mistaken
for a verb rather than the noun object of the preposition about, and

about his lack of a college degree is much more clear

• The second error is the verb tense of a conditional statement

The conditional statement is hypothetical and in the past

Therefore the verb in the conditional clause (if the applicant had been honest)

must be one step behind the tense of the verb in the independent clause ["they would . . . "],
which receives a form of will, can, shall, or might
Correct: they would have hired him (in which would is a form of will)

Choice D makes both of these corrections

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Ashokshiva , welcome! GKomoku , thank you for the downloadable sheet! Very thoughtful. :)

My big fear about the OE?
The author of the OE begins with elimination based on stylistic choice of words.

Let awkwardness or wordiness be one of your last decision points. Please.

The author is correct about the awkwardness.

Decide grammatical issues first.
Okay, I feel better.

Conditional statements

For conditional statements, we just have to memorize the way they work.

Prompt: If the applicant had been honest . . .
What kind of conditional (IF/THEN, cause/effect, condition/result) is this construction?
We have a hypothetical situation in the past, and its probable result in the future of the past ( :dazed )

Manhattan SC Guide gives an easier description: the "Case That Never Happened (in the past)"
A site linked below calls this a Type 3 Conditional: impossible condition in the past and probable result in the past

The construction is
If THIS thing had happened, then THAT thing would have happened.

(Much rarer on the GMAT, but also a Type 3:
If THIS thing had happened, then THAT thing would have been happening)

• From the given verb tense in the IF clause, determine the correct verb tense for the "THEN" or result clause
-- We have no choice for verb tense in the IF-clause; the non-underlined portion uses past perfect.
-- had been honest = past perfect
-- Past perfect is: HAD + past participle => HAD + been (+ honest)
-- Only one type of conditional uses past perfect in the IF clause: Type 3 or the Case That Never Happened (in the past)
-- The main/result clause must be "would have verbED" or "would have been verbING"

• Information on TYPES OF CONDITIONALS

With respect to conditionals, the best resource that I have found online is HERE.
That site is really excellent. The first page is a summary of all five types of conditionals.
Click through the links to find out about zero conditionals, Type 1, Type 2, Type 3, and mixed conditionals

The site discusses Type 3 conditionals HERE.

• Type 3: If X had happened . . . then . . . Y would have happened.

IF clause: past perfect
MAIN clause: perfect conditional [would + have + past participle]
or perfect continuous conditional [would + have been + present participle] - HERE

• Because the IF clause uses past perfect, Answer D is the only correct answer
... if the applicant had been honest...

For the result/THEN clause, we need: would + have + past participle

Only Answer D has what we need: they would have hired him

• Final comments

Everyone had the correct answer and the correct reasons.

And I am glad to see both new, newish (that's not a word!), and "barely" veteran posters.

I can't "call" a best answer. Everyone gets kudos for very good to excellent explanations.

aanjumz92 , Sarwan14 , KanishkM , Ashokshiva , and GKomoku - nice work.
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TIMER STATISTICS :

QUESTION STATS:

93% (08:45) correct 7% (01:20) wrong based on 57 sessions


I am wondering what is taking so long for the people to answer this question correctly!! :shocked :dazed

Helium , good catch.
I think the stats are skewed generally.

I will check with the timer wizards to see whether all is well here.

I suppose that someone could have left a timer running for a couple of minutes
without realizing it before that person answered the question.

I don't think I agree with this accuracy figure, though.
I'd guess a little lower.

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Helium wrote:
TIMER STATISTICS :

QUESTION STATS:

93% (08:45) correct 7% (01:20) wrong based on 57 sessions


I am wondering what is taking so long for the people to answer this question correctly!! :shocked :dazed

@Heliium , good catch.
I think the stats are skewed generally.

I will check with the timer wizards to see whether all is well here.

I supposed someone could have left their timer running for a couple of
without
realizing it before that person answered the question.

I don't think I agree with this accuracy figure, though.
I'd guess I little lower.

Thanks!


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I hope you are alright mate !! : :|
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generis wrote:
@Heliium , good catch.
I think the stats are skewed generally.

I will check with the timer wizards to see whether all is well here.

I suppose someone could have left their timer running for a couple of
without
realizing it before that person answered the question.

I don't think I agree with this accuracy figure, though.
I'd guess I little lower.

Thanks!


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I hope you are alright mate !! : :|

Helium - You, too! I suppose the handle does reflect the voice of .... I didn't catch it until your annotations and syntax just there.

P.S. Helium - that post is a good example of What Not to Do After Insomnia Wins. :blushing :-D
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