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The men refused to acknowledge that the frustration they experienced waiting in line would be the same to the children waiting in line as it would to the men.

(A) the children waiting in line as it would to the men
(B) the children waiting in line just as it would to them
(C) the children waiting in line in just as to them
(D) the children waiting in line in as it would to themselves
(E) the children waiting in line like it would to the men.
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28 Apr 2005, 09:04
D looks good - but this question is all convoluted.
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28 Apr 2005, 10:17
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The men refused to acknowledge that the frustration they experienced waiting in line would be the same to the children waiting in line as it would to the men.

(A) the children waiting in line as it would to the men
(B) the children waiting in line just as it would to them
(C) the children waiting in line in just as to them
(D) the children waiting in line in as it would to themselves
(E) the children waiting in line like it would to the men.

E: Wrong because like should introduce only phrases. Here it introduces a clause.

C: Wrong because the preposition "in" muddles the meaning of the sentence.

D: Verbose version of A.

A: Wrong because "the men" isnt explicit. It could refer to "any men" not the men who refused to acknowledge.....

My AC is B.
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28 Apr 2005, 11:02
B for me.

The following adverbs often go with same: exactly, just, [not] quite, almost, more or less, much, nearly, practically, roughly:

Example => Money didnâ€™t change them: theyâ€™re exactly the same as before.

As would be correct over Like as it is not a direct comparison.
D is wrong in the use of "themselves".
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28 Apr 2005, 15:30
A)...i think in A) it is clear that "the men" refers to "the men". it is explicit. in B) "them" can refer to "the children" as well.
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28 Apr 2005, 16:31
Since it is men who are acknowledging them should be refering to men. I think answer is B

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28 Apr 2005, 19:17
OA is A.

Spot the Concept being tested:
Comparison between the frustration the men experienced and the frustration the children experienced

Rule and Fix:
Items that are compared to one another must be balanced and must be of the same or similar items (structurally and logically parallel).

POE:
C lacks the it used to imply frustration.

Chunk and Compare:
B, C, and D all introduce pronouns place of the men. The pronoun them could refer to men or children and is therefore ambiguous.

Choose A
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28 Apr 2005, 23:32
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GMATT73 wrote:
The men refused to acknowledge that the frustration they experienced waiting in line would be the same to the children waiting in line as it would to the men.

(A) the children waiting in line as it would to the men
(B) the children waiting in line just as it would to them
(C) the children waiting in line in just as to them
(D) the children waiting in line in as it would to themselves
(E) the children waiting in line like it would to the men.

E: Wrong because like should introduce only phrases. Here it introduces a clause.

C: Wrong because the preposition "in" muddles the meaning of the sentence.

D: Verbose version of A.

A: Wrong because "the men" isnt explicit. It could refer to "any men" not the men who refused to acknowledge.....

My AC is B.

the men => the group of men already identified in the first part of the sentence. right?
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01 May 2005, 13:59
GMATT73 wrote:
OA is A.

Spot the Concept being tested:
Comparison between the frustration the men experienced and the frustration the children experienced

Rule and Fix:
Items that are compared to one another must be balanced and must be of the same or similar items (structurally and logically parallel).

POE:
C lacks the it used to imply frustration.

Chunk and Compare:
B, C, and D all introduce pronouns place of the men. The pronoun them could refer to men or children and is therefore ambiguous.

Choose A

How could them refer to "children" in this context? Let's say we replace the pronoun with "children" the underlined portion would read as:

the children waiting in line as it would to the children

and the entire sentence would read as

The men refused to acknowledge that the frustration they [implicit --> the men] experienced waiting in line would be the same to the children waiting in line just as it would to children.

This sentence would imply that we are comparing the "level of frustration" of children with the "level of frustration" of children? It would be silly to compare something to itself, No?

The OA seems dubious to me. GMATT73 what is the source of this question? Also as a suggestion: Would you please underline the original question in all your posts going forward.

General question to others: Did you feel the same way about the OE? Or am i missing something here?

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01 May 2005, 14:29
GMATT73 wrote:
The men refused to acknowledge that the frustration they experienced waiting in line would be the same to the children waiting in line as it would to the men.

(A) the children waiting in line as it would to the men
(E) the children waiting in line like it would to the men.

I was in between A and E because B, C and D have either them or themselves, both are wrong because both have no clear referant. the only confusion was whether "the frustration" is noun or action. Ok after re-reading it (the frustration they experienced) is action.
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02 May 2005, 05:30
gmataquaguy wrote:
GMATT73 wrote:
OA is A.

Spot the Concept being tested:
Comparison between the frustration the men experienced and the frustration the children experienced

Rule and Fix:
Items that are compared to one another must be balanced and must be of the same or similar items (structurally and logically parallel).

POE:
C lacks the it used to imply frustration.

Chunk and Compare:
B, C, and D all introduce pronouns place of the men. The pronoun them could refer to men or children and is therefore ambiguous.

Choose A

How could them refer to "children" in this context? Let's say we replace the pronoun with "children" the underlined portion would read as:

the children waiting in line as it would to the children

and the entire sentence would read as

The men refused to acknowledge that the frustration they [implicit --> the men] experienced waiting in line would be the same to the children waiting in line just as it would to children.

This sentence would imply that we are comparing the "level of frustration" of children with the "level of frustration" of children? It would be silly to compare something to itself, No?

The OA seems dubious to me. GMATT73 what is the source of this question? Also as a suggestion: Would you please underline the original question in all your posts going forward.

General question to others: Did you feel the same way about the OE? Or am i missing something here?

regards,
gmataquaguy

Could any of the SC experts throw their 2 cents in please after reading my post.
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08 May 2005, 17:55
Bumping this thread up. Could someone see my post and please comment.

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08 May 2005, 20:25
Yes from the meaning we all know that "them" refer to the men. However grammatically "them" has ambigous reference. This is why it is wrong to use it.
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09 May 2005, 04:11
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However grammatically "them" has ambigous reference.

Could you please elaborate on what you mean. If the pronoun "them" cannot refer to children what else could/would it refer to? I'm not sure i understand what you mean by them has ambiguous reference.

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10 May 2005, 01:08
GMATT73 wrote:
Chunk and Compare:
B, C, and D all introduce pronouns place of the men. The pronoun them could refer to men or children and is therefore ambiguous.

in D, "themselves" refer correctly to "the men" at the begining of the sentence. The reason D is wrong is that "line in" is verbose.
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