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# The most notorious gang in Venice, California, the Sidehackers,

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08 Jul 2015, 04:05
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The most notorious gang in Venice, California, the Sidehackers, had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they began to claim turf to the north and south.

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they began

[*]stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently when they began

[*]stayed within neighborhood boundaries until recently as they began

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they had begun

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when it began
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08 Jul 2015, 14:30
I got it right but only on the indication that the Sidehackers is singular and need an "it". Hope my reasoning is right.
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11 Jul 2015, 01:20
The most notorious gang in Venice, California, the Sidehackers, had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when it began to claim turf to the north and south.

The "notorious gang" is singular and requires "it" as the pronoun.
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12 Jul 2015, 02:15
Although we can eliminate all the options on the basis of they v/s it, another rule might help eliminate B and C is: When there are two past actions in the statement, the action that took place first has to have the word "had".

Btw, my sentence above uses the idiomatic expression Although x,y. I am not too sure about the sentence structure though..pls help improvise
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12 Jul 2015, 10:36
SauravPathak27 wrote:
Although we can eliminate all the options on the basis of they v/s it, another rule might help eliminate B and C is: When there are two past actions in the statement, the action that took place first has to have the word "had".

Btw, my sentence above uses the idiomatic expression Although x,y. I am not too sure about the sentence structure though..pls help improvise

There are two steps for POE in this question:

First, the verb tense:
Watch the time clue "until recently"; Two events happened ( "...stayed within neighborhood boundaries..." and "...claim turf to the north and south...")
The event that happened first will have a perfect tense (had). Eliminate B and C

Second, the pronoun agreement:
Only "it" correctly refers to "the most notorious gang".
Eliminate A and D

Hop this helps!!
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26 Aug 2017, 10:14
Subanta wrote:
The most notorious gang in Venice, California, the Sidehackers, had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they began to claim turf to the north and south.

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they began

[*]stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently when they began

[*]stayed within neighborhood boundaries until recently as they began

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they had begun

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when it began

gang is singular,,,sidehacckers

shud be E
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26 Aug 2017, 11:51
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Subanta wrote:
SauravPathak27 wrote:
Although we can eliminate all the options on the basis of they v/s it, another rule might help eliminate B and C is: When there are two past actions in the statement, the action that took place first has to have the word "had".

Btw, my sentence above uses the idiomatic expression Although x,y. I am not too sure about the sentence structure though..pls help improvise

There are two steps for POE in this question:

First, the verb tense:
Watch the time clue "until recently"; Two events happened ( "...stayed within neighborhood boundaries..." and "...claim turf to the north and south...")
The event that happened first will have a perfect tense (had). Eliminate B and C

Second, the pronoun agreement:
Only "it" correctly refers to "the most notorious gang".
Eliminate A and D

Hop this helps!!

Since until recently, already gives idea about the timeline of the events, why do you we need to use past perfect tense separately for this?

daagh, can you help?
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29 Jun 2018, 00:50
A,B,C,D - "they" is referring to singular "gang"

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29 Jun 2018, 20:08
untill recently/ or until a specific time in the past require simple past, not past perfect. this sentence is not good
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29 Jun 2018, 22:04
"gang" is a collective noun. "The gang are running across the street"
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02 Jul 2018, 03:29
Though I chose E, I didn't understand the exact meaning. use of sidehackers ?
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19 Feb 2019, 10:44
The most notorious gang in Venice, California, the Sidehackers, had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they began to claim turf to the north and south.

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they began

[*]stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently when they began

[*]stayed within neighborhood boundaries until recently as they began

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when they had begun

[*]had stayed within neighborhood boundaries until fairly recently, when it began

Can SC questions be easier than this?

collective noun is singular so 'gang' is singular and all the 'they' pronoun to refer to gang are wrong, only option E is correct with it using 'it' to refer back to gang.
Re: The most notorious gang in Venice, California, the Sidehackers,   [#permalink] 19 Feb 2019, 10:44
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