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manishtank1988 wrote:
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I don't completely see your point but in GMAT we only have to choose from given options. Any sentence can be made better or ideal using some structure which may not be given in options. We don't/shouldn't count them. I agree that if the sentence would have been:
[clause 1,and clause 2]: The new “e-waste” salvage company collects electronic waste items, such as old cellular telephones and broken personal music players, as trash and it transports them to state facilities for recycling.
This sentence is clear and easy to understand.
But as discussed above and presented on e-gmat's links: questions is trying to test our understanding of different structure:
Noun, noun-modifier, that clause.
Here generally comma+that clause doesn't sit well but as Marcab mentioned if the modifer between the comma-splice is NON-ESSENTIAL that directly corresponds to noun before the modifier (this structure is being tested here!!!).

Finally, i would add that comma+co-ordinating conjunction (such as FANBOY - for/and/nor/but/or/yet) are used to connect INDEPENDENT clause and not just any clause. So in your structure clause1 and clause2 both should be IC.

Hope this helps in clarifying certain doubts.
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Thanks a lot..Friend..for this .It really helped a lot..

I agree that B seems to be the best of the 5 options... But it will be of great help if you could clarify this small doubt of mine...

By saying that clause1, modifier, and clause 2
I meant that option B should have been players, that have been discarded as trash, and transports

Yes I agree that that has here been used as a non essential modifier
But just see the following sentence

The boy, who is standing at the door, is my brother

Here who is a non essential modifier. In this sentence the Noun modifier who is standing at the door is placed separately BETWEEN 2 COMMAS AND CAN BE EASILY DISTINGUISHED IN THE WHOLE SENTENCE. Also we now get the sense of the sentence even by skipping this clause and reading the remaining sentence as The boy is my brother

Furthermore, In the question that have been discarded as trash is a noun modifier that actually modifies the players
And I MAY BE WRONG HERE but if we dont put comma (,) before and the noun modifier that have been discarded as trash appears to mix with the main sentence and

The whole sentence would look like
The new “e-waste” salvage company collects electronic waste items, such as old cellular telephones and broken personal music players, that have been discarded as trash and transports them to state facilities for recycling.

Now we could not differentiate between the 2 main identities which we are talking about i.e. the collection of electronic wastes and transporting them.

Because the noun modifier which was earlier distinctive and clear is no more clear as it was....

I know there may be flaws in my approach and understanding of the rule here. But I hope you help me in getting this concept clear

I hope you get my doubt now..

PLEASE HELP ME...
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I don't completely see your point but in GMAT we only have to choose from given options. Any sentence can be made better or ideal using some structure which may not be given in options. We don't/shouldn't count them. I agree that if the sentence would have been:
[clause 1,and clause 2]: The new “e-waste” salvage company collects electronic waste items, such as old cellular telephones and broken personal music players, as trash and it transports them to state facilities for recycling.
This sentence is clear and easy to understand.
But as discussed above and presented on e-gmat's links: questions is trying to test our understanding of different structure:
Noun, noun-modifier, that clause.
Here generally comma+that clause doesn't sit well but as Marcab mentioned if the modifer between the comma-splice is NON-ESSENTIAL that directly corresponds to noun before the modifier (this structure is being tested here!!!).

Finally, i would add that comma+co-ordinating conjunction (such as FANBOY - for/and/nor/but/or/yet) are used to connect INDEPENDENT clause and not just any clause. So in your structure clause1 and clause2 both should be IC.

Hope this helps in clarifying certain doubts.
If you find this post helpful, please kudo :)



Thanks a lot..Friend..for this .It really helped a lot..

I agree that B seems to be the best of the 5 options... But it will be of great help if you could clarify this small doubt of mine...

By saying that clause1, modifier, and clause 2
I meant that option B should have been players, that have been discarded as trash, and transports

Yes I agree that that has here been used as a non essential modifier
But just see the following sentence

The boy, who is standing at the door, is my brother

Here who is a non essential modifier. In this sentence the Noun modifier who is standing at the door is placed separately BETWEEN 2 COMMAS AND CAN BE EASILY DISTINGUISHED IN THE WHOLE SENTENCE. Also we now get the sense of the sentence even by skipping this clause and reading the remaining sentence as The boy is my brother

Furthermore, In the question that have been discarded as trash is a noun modifier that actually modifies the players
And I MAY BE WRONG HERE but if we dont put comma (,) before and the noun modifier that have been discarded as trash appears to mix with the main sentence and

The whole sentence would look like
The new “e-waste” salvage company collects electronic waste items, such as old cellular telephones and broken personal music players, that have been discarded as trash and transports them to state facilities for recycling.

Now we could not differentiate between the 2 main identities which we are talking about i.e. the collection of electronic wastes and transporting them.

Because the noun modifier which was earlier distinctive and clear is no more clear as it was....

I know there may be flaws in my approach and understanding of the rule here. But I hope you help me in getting this concept clear

I hope you get my doubt now..

PLEASE HELP ME...


The construction of option B is NOT Clause 1 , AND Clause 2.

If there were two clauses, then the construction would be:
The salvage company collects, and IT transports. ( 2 clauses are added by "and", comma required)

There is only one clause with 2 parallel verbs:
The salvage company collects and transports. (2 verbs are added by "and", no comma )

Add modifier 1: such as old cellular telephones and broken personal music players (non-essential modifier)
Add modifier 2: that have been discarded as trash (essential modifier referring to "electronic waste items" - this is an exception of the modifier touch rule).

So the complete construction is:
Subject + verb1 + object +, non-essential modifier, + essential modifier referring to object + verb 2.

In case your doubt is not cleared, please post again.
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I see people's explanation of parallelism for "collects" & "transports", but my question what is the plural subject here to know regardless that it should be "transports" (e.g., in case I missed the parallelism mentioned above)

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The new “e-waste” salvage company collects electronic waste items, such as old cellular telephones and broken personal music players, discarding them as trash, to transport them to state facilities for recycling.

A players, discarding them as trash, to transport
B players, that have been discarded as trash and transports
C players that are discarded, as trash in order to transport
D players, which have been discarded as trash and transport
E players, that are discarded as trash and transport

.... Please provide detail explaination....


A very good question
Imo B
A contains ambiguous them and Ing modifier is wrongly modifying the preceding phrase .
C is redundant and wordy as company collects waste item .Waste items are discarded.
D use which is wrong and verb has to be singular
E plural verb is used instead of singular verb
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I see people's explanation of parallelism for "collects" & "transports", but my question what is the plural subject here to know regardless that it should be "transports" (e.g., in case I missed the parallelism mentioned above)

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Not plural subject, but singular - "collects" & "transports" are singular verbs - the subject of these verbs is "The new “e-waste" salvage company ".
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I chose B because it was the only option that said TRANSPORTS as oppose to transport. It should be transports because the company is singular
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The new “e-waste” salvage company collects electronic waste items, such as old cellular telephones and broken personal music players, discarding them as trash, to transport them to state facilities for recycling.

A players, discarding them as trash, to transport
B players, that have been discarded as trash and transports
C players that are discarded, as trash in order to transport
D players, which have been discarded as trash and transport
E players, that are discarded as trash and transport

.... Please provide detail explaination....


Please correct my thought process if you believe I made a mistake:

A) Them could refer to "telephones", "music players" or "Waste items"
B) Correct
C) They do not collect "Waste items as trash". The items have been discarded as trash. Meaning is altered here
D) CD players are just an example of discarded trash, so the "which" here changes the meaning of the sentence
E) We need "transports" over "transport"
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New post 08 Dec 2018, 03:14
Only choice B has correct parallelism...'collects' and 'transports'
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