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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   29 Nov 2022, 22:32
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.

A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted
C. mansion, that the mansion contained thirteen rooms, and said that it had a reputation for being haunted
D. mansion, said that it contained thirteen rooms and had a reputation for being a haunted house
E. mansion and said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted


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The word "and" is just too common and useful a word for us to have any rules about using it twice. All you need to do is look at what each AND is joining.

Here's the overall structure:

The story recounted X and said Y.

So the first AND is joining the two main verbs of the sentence: recounted and said.

What's the second AND doing? Well, the second verb ("said") is followed by a modifier (THAT. . . ), and this modifier provides a statement about the mansion. The mansion a) contained 13 rooms and b) had the reputation of being haunted.

So the second AND is joining two verbs in the modifier. It has no real connection to the other AND, so it raises no issues of parallelism or comma usage.
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   26 Sep 2019, 20:24
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.

A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted
C. mansion, that the mansion contained thirteen rooms, and said that it had a reputation for being haunted
D. mansion, said that it contained thirteen rooms and had a reputation for being a haunted house
E. mansion and said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted

Reputation 'for being' haunted is bad idiom. Drop A, C, and D.

In B, I think there is no problem for the reference of 'it', as it should logically refer to the mansion, as another thing as either the newspaper or the history would contain thirteen rooms. However, the problem is the connector that'. Separating it from the main clause with a comma renders the first item inessential.

E must be the correct answer, in spite of its wordiness.

thoiugh i understand all choices have being as modifier , isnot gmat violating rule of never using being as modifier
here being modifies haunted house.
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   08 Oct 2019, 17:22
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.

A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted
C. mansion, that the mansion contained thirteen rooms, and said that it had a reputation for being haunted
D. mansion, said that it contained thirteen rooms and had a reputation for being a haunted house
E. mansion and said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted


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Correct answer: E

A-C all create an inappropriate list ("recounted ... the history ..., that X ..., [and said] that Y").
D could be correct if "said" were changed to a modifier, e.g. "stating that ..." However, its construction makes it part of an incomplete list ("recounted ... said ... and [ ]"
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   09 Nov 2019, 05:05
Hey @e-gmat, can you explain two things here please:

1) Use of of being and for being
2) Option E violates that that parallelism.
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   10 Apr 2020, 11:12
EMPOWERgmatVerbal, I don't understand how 'that' in option A acts as an object for the verb 'recount'

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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   22 Apr 2021, 01:53
GMATNinja, mikemcgarry

Doesn't option B use noun + noun modifier in the end?

The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted.

My understand was that newspaper recounted the history of the mansion and that three rooms and reputation is a part of that history. So "history" is the primary thing which includes information about rooms and reputation?

Please tell me where I am going wrong.
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   07 May 2021, 13:38
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Hey @e-gmat, can you explain two things here please:

1) Use of of being and for being
2) Option E violates that that parallelism.




Hello AyeeshaJ,
Sincere apologies for the late revert.

1) It is not about the phrase of being and for being. The phrases that we need to consider are reputation of and reputation for. Now, the usage of being is correct in the sentence because it has been used as a verb-ing noun word.


2) There is no parallelism violation in Choice E with the omission of that before the verb had. The subject the mansion has two verbs - contained and had. These two verbs are properly connected by the connector and. The parallelism is maintained here.


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Can we say that the usage of ,that is wrong and eliminate the options?
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   30 Aug 2021, 08:45
A – Reputation for being a haunted house – wrong
B- seems good . But, it cannot refer back to mansion by jumping back to first sentence
C- same reason of A- wrong
D- mentioning that is correct . Said that -wrong. Ambiguity of it
E- seems good . E is the right answer

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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   30 Aug 2021, 13:18
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Yes, we can! None of the "that" phrases in A-D are parallel with the rest of the structure.
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   20 Sep 2021, 20:32
Correct option E

Preposition always follow Noun, Gerund, and Pronoun
Preposition "For" - to talk about a purpose or a reason for something
Preposition "of" - when we want to show that people or things relate to other things or people
this makes reputation for being - all wrong usage of preposition and can eliminated A,C ,and D

Eliminated:
A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
C. mansion, that the mansion contained thirteen rooms, and said that it had a reputation for being haunted
D. mansion, said that it contained thirteen rooms and had a reputation for being a haunted house

Remaining B, redundancy with pronoun "it" and "that"
Two "it" creates ambiguity, refer to which Noun - Newspaper, Mansion, or the rooms
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted

E Gives , clear message of the sentence:
The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion and said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   22 Sep 2021, 17:38
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Egmat, Could you advise on the option D.
I uderstand in terms of sentence structure . OPtion D is wrong but few posts question the Pronoun " IT" also as an error.
My query, IT can refer to story or Mansion. But it doesnot make sense if replace IT with story thus pronoun IT must refer to only mansion thus IT is not error here.
IS my understanding right?


Hi, friend!

I also wrongly choose D but now it is clear for me that E is the correct answer.

In D I really do not think that "it" has a pronoun-reference problem, I agree with you that "it" must refer only to "mansion" to make sense.

The problem in D is that considering the pronoun "it" as "mansion" you are starting a new and-list with the verbs "contained" and "had", but what about the verb "said" preceding "it"? You can not separate the previous verbs "recounted" and "said" with a comma, they also require an and-list and E makes things right.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers!
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   15 Nov 2021, 10:56
can we eliminate A, B, C for the usage of ', that '

As we know 'that' is not followed by a comma only 'which' is.
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   05 Jan 2022, 11:32
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ArindamLucky

Yes, we can! None of the "that" phrases in A-D are parallel with the rest of the structure.


DmitryFarber GMATNinja is answer choice (D) a run-on sentence? If there was a comma before "and had a reputation" would it be right? Or the meaning of the sentence would still be wrong?

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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   14 Jan 2022, 11:01
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.
A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted
C. mansion, that the mansion contained thirteen rooms, and said that it had a reputation for being haunted
D. mansion, said that it contained thirteen rooms and had a reputation for being a haunted house
E. mansion and said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted


I chose D - i have not read any posts

Reason -- the blue and the purple have to 'describe' / give more information HOW the newspaper story did what it did.

Below is the skeleton structure of A / B / C and E

Quote:
A - x, y, and z
B - x, y, and z
C - x, y, and z
D - x, y and z
E - x and y and z


IN A / B / C and E -- per my understanding of the skeleton structure --
y and z are independent of x [i.e. y and z DONT DESCRIBE X]

Only in D -- based on the skeleton structure -- does Y and Z 'describe' / give more information about the sentence before (x)
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IN A / B / C and E -- per my understanding of the skeleton structure --
y and z are independent of x [i.e. y and z DONT DESCRIBE X]

Only in D -- based on the skeleton structure -- does Y and Z 'describe' / give more information about the sentence before (x)


jabhatta2 do you want to type up a fresh analysis to test your learnings from our session?
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   16 Feb 2022, 01:49
The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion and said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted

Option E has a part: said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted

contained is the verb ed modifier for mansion and the after "and", we have "had the reputation", which has a verb. Can these two parts be connected by and. Logically, this makes sense, but can a modifier and verb form be connected in this manner
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Re: The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   17 Feb 2022, 05:37
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion and said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted

Option E has a part: said that the mansion contained thirteen rooms and had the reputation of being haunted

contained is the verb ed modifier for mansion and the after "and", we have "had the reputation", which has a verb. Can these two parts be connected by and. Logically, this makes sense, but can a modifier and verb form be connected in this manner


Hello Eshangupta1211,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, in this sentence "contained" actually serves as an active verb, so there is no parallelism issue between it and "had".

We hope this helps.
All the best!
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   28 Jun 2022, 10:03
BillyZ wrote:
The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.
A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted


Hi GMATNinja DmitryFarber EducationAisleIanStewart AjiteshArun - quick question on (A) and (B).

Can the blue and the pink modifiers refer to the noun - mansions ?

I thought the blue and the pink, written as is, refer back to the noun "mansions"

Is that grammatically not possible ?
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   28 Jun 2022, 23:06
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.
A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted

- quick question on (A) and (B).

Can the blue and the pink modifiers refer to the noun - mansions ?

I thought the blue and the pink, written as is, refer back to the noun "mansions"

Is that grammatically not possible ?

No. For "that" to refer to "mansion", the sentence should have been:

.....the colonial mansion that it contained thirteen rooms and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.
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The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial [#permalink] New post   29 Jun 2022, 06:40
EducationAisle wrote:
jabhatta2 wrote:
BillyZ wrote:
The newspaper story accurately recounted the history of the colonial mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.
A. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house
B. mansion, that it contained thirteen rooms, and that it had a reputation of being haunted

- quick question on (A) and (B).

Can the blue and the pink modifiers refer to the noun - mansions ?

I thought the blue and the pink, written as is, refer back to the noun "mansions"

Is that grammatically not possible ?

No. For "that" to refer to "mansion", the sentence should have been:

.....the colonial mansion that it contained thirteen rooms and that it had a reputation for being a haunted house.


Thx EducationAisle - you dropped the "it"

Is it incorrect because "that contained thirteen rooms " is a relative pronoun - so the "That" already stands for the noun.

Hence "that it contained thirteen rooms " - would be double counting the subject, because the "That" already stands for colonial mansion
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