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The number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year at a constant rate. If there are 500 antelope in the herd today, how many years will it take for the number of antelope to double?

(1) Ten years from now, there will be more than ten times the current number of antelope in the herd.

(2) If the herd were to grow in number at twice its current rate, there would be 980 antelope in the group in two years.
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The number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year at a constant rate. If there are 500 antelope in the herd today, how many years will it take for the number of antelope to double?

(1) Ten years from now, there will be more than ten times the current number of antelope in the herd.

(2) If the herd were to grow in number at twice its current rate, there would be 980 antelope in the group in two years.

Let the rate of increase be $$r$$ (so after 1 year # of antelope will be $$500*(1+r)$$, after 2 years # of antelope will be $$500*(1+r)^2$$ and so on). Question: if $$500*(1+r)^k=2*500$$ --> if $$(1+r)^k=2$$, then $$k=?$$

(1) Ten years from now, there will be more than ten times the current number of antelope in the herd --> $$500*(1+r)^{10}>10*500$$ --> $$(1+r)^{10}>10$$ --> different values of $$r$$ satisfies this inequality hence we'll have different values of $$k$$. Not sufficient.

(2) If the herd were to grow in number at twice its current rate, there would be 980 antelope in the group in two years --> $$500*(1+2r)^2=980$$ --> as there is only one unknown we can find its (acceptable) value thus we can calculate $$k$$. Sufficient.

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Here's the explanation.

To answer your first question, why x^10 > 10 is not sufficient.
You are asked, in the question, to determine the number of years it will take for the antelope herd to double in number. i.e. currently there are 500 Antelopes, when will it become 1000?

Considering the statement x^10 > 10, x can be any number greater than or equal to 2.
This means that we cannot practically determine the exact time required for the herd to double in number. So Statement 1 is insufficient.

Let's consider statement 2. This states that if the herd were to grow at twice it's current rate, there would be 980 antelopes in 2 years.

Let the current rate of growth be x
As per statement 2, if the growth rate is double the current rate, there would be 980 antelopes in 2 years.
So, the new growth rate would be 2x
So, in 1 Year, the number of antelopes would be 500(2x)
And in 2 Years, the number of antelopes would be 500(2x)^2, which is given to be 980
Solving this equation, we get
4x^2 = 980/500
i.e. x^2 = 49/100
Solving for x, we get x = 0.7
Using this, we can definitely determine the time required for the herd to double in number.

Hence, statement 2 is sufficient on its own to answer the question.

Hence the correct option is B.

Hope this helps!
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On population type questions, do we always assume that we are dealing with exponential growth? On the GMAT, how would we differentiate between exponential growth and linear growth?
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Thanks for the wonderful explanation Bunuel. You make each problem sound so simple! +1 to you!
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On population type questions, do we always assume that we are dealing with exponential growth? On the GMAT, how would we differentiate between exponential growth and linear growth?

Growth at some rate means that we have exponential growth.
Growth at some constant amount means linear growth (for example if we were told that "the number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year by 1,000").
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macjas wrote:
On population type questions, do we always assume that we are dealing with exponential growth? On the GMAT, how would we differentiate between exponential growth and linear growth?

Growth at some rate means that we have exponential growth.
Growth at some constant amount means linear growth (for example if we were told that "the number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year by 1,000").

Hi Bunuel,

Below are the two questions one from MGMAT and other some GMAT Paper test and as per your guidance, this is my response, kindly correct if i am wrong here.

1) The number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year at a constant rate : Exponential Growth

2) The number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year by a constant factor: Linear Growth
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The number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year at a constant rate. If there are 500 antelope in the herd today, how many years will it take for the number of antelope to double?

(1) Ten years from now, there will be more than ten times the current number of antelope in the herd.

(2) If the herd were to grow in number at twice its current rate, there would be 980 antelope in the group in two years.

Let the rate of increase be $$r$$ (so after 1 year # of antelope will be $$500*(1+r)$$, after 2 years # of antelope will be $$500*(1+r)^2$$ and so on). Question: if $$500*(1+r)^k=2*500$$ --> if $$(1+r)^k=2$$, then $$k=?$$

(1) Ten years from now, there will be more than ten times the current number of antelope in the herd --> $$500*(1+r)^{10}>10*500$$ --> $$(1+r)^{10}>10$$ --> different values of $$r$$ satisfies this inequality hence we'll have different values of $$k$$. Not sufficient.

(2) If the herd were to grow in number at twice its current rate, there would be 980 antelope in the group in two years --> $$500*(1+2r)^2=980$$ --> as there is only one unknown we can find its (acceptable) value thus we can calculate $$k$$. Sufficient.

As per my understanding formula must be 500(1+r/100)^2 fr population after 2 years.how did u ignore 100 of denominator.
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The number of antelope in a certain herd increases every year at a constant rate. If there are 500 antelope in the herd today, how many years will it take for the number of antelope to double?
(1) Ten years from now, there will be more than ten times the current number of antelope in the herd.
(2) If the herd were to grow in number at twice its current rate, there would be 980 antelope in the
group in two years.

Ok guys - this is how I am trying to solve this. But I got stuck. So can someone please help to unstuck me? Considering question stem

Let's assume that rate of growth be x

So,

Time Growth
Today 500
In 1 year 500x
In 2 years 500x^2
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In n years 500x^n

Therefore, 500x^n>5000 => x^n > 10 ------------------------------------------------------(1)

So now the question becomes what is the value of x and n?

Now considering statement 1

500x^10>5000
x^10>10 --------> Why this is insufficient?

Now considering statement 2

Let say growth be y

Time Population
Now 500
In 1 year 500y
In 2 years 500y^2

Therefore 500y^2=980
Y^2 = 980/500
y = 7/4 as it can't be negative. Again I am stuck after this. Can someone please guide me through?
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we need to find the rate. let it be K
Statement. 1: we only know on year ten the number will be more than 5000. nothing else. no way to find the rate. Insufficient.

Statement 2: 500+ 500*2K=980
Sufficient to find the rate k.
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Hello BDSunDevil - We have to find the time and not the rate.
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Yeah. But, only if you get the rate, you get the figure for 3rd year and so on. which, will lead you to the desired year.
I hope i am doing it right.
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Alright, this is how I did it. (1) is of absolutely no significance because the statement "more than ten times" is incredibly vague and can mean anything from 10.1 times to 1,000,000,000 times more.

So, if (1) is incidental then we can cancel out options A, C and D. All we need to do now is figure if (2) can give you an answer.

If x is the rate and the herd will grow at twice it's current rate, then we can find next year's population by the equation 500 + 2x(500) and the population the year after would be 500 + 2x(500) 2x(2x{500}) = 980. Now we can solve for the rate of growth x. From there we just count how many years it takes to increase the herd at that constant rate. I'd do the math, but since we don't have to solve the problem, just know that/how it can be solved, there's not much point.

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Thanks was a little confused on this one... Good clarification.
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Can someone pls. clarify how to decide if the question is indicating an arithmetic progression or geometric progression. I thought constant rate refers to a growth by a certain constant number...and constant ratio/ factor means it is more a multiplier..

IN this question for example...I interpreted the statement 2 as..

Let x be initial growth rate ...so first year 500 + x
second year = 500+ 2x

Now if rate is doubled....first year = 500+2x
second year = 500+4x

Where am I interpreting incorrectly?

why is second year = 500+x^2

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audiogal101 wrote:
Can someone pls. clarify how to decide if the question is indicating an arithmetic progression or geometric progression. I thought constant rate refers to a growth by a certain constant number...and constant ratio/ factor means it is more a multiplier..

IN this question for example...I interpreted the statement 2 as..

Let x be initial growth rate ...so first year 500 + x
second year = 500+ 2x

Now if rate is doubled....first year = 500+2x
second year = 500+4x

Where am I interpreting incorrectly?

why is second year = 500+x^2

Check here: the-number-of-antelope-in-a-certain-herd-increases-every-99810.html#p1113618
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audiogal101 wrote:
Can someone pls. clarify how to decide if the question is indicating an arithmetic progression or geometric progression. I thought constant rate refers to a growth by a certain constant number...and constant ratio/ factor means it is more a multiplier..

IN this question for example...I interpreted the statement 2 as..

Let x be initial growth rate ...so first year 500 + x
second year = 500+ 2x

Now if rate is doubled....first year = 500+2x
second year = 500+4x

Where am I interpreting incorrectly?

why is second year = 500+x^2

Can someone please explain why this is not the case of linear growth when constant rate is written in the question. Sorry if not asking in correct forum.
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shukasa wrote:
audiogal101 wrote:
Can someone pls. clarify how to decide if the question is indicating an arithmetic progression or geometric progression. I thought constant rate refers to a growth by a certain constant number...and constant ratio/ factor means it is more a multiplier..

IN this question for example...I interpreted the statement 2 as..

Let x be initial growth rate ...so first year 500 + x
second year = 500+ 2x

Now if rate is doubled....first year = 500+2x
second year = 500+4x

Where am I interpreting incorrectly?

why is second year = 500+x^2

Can someone please explain why this is not the case of linear growth when constant rate is written in the question. Sorry if not asking in correct forum.

Have you checked this post: the-number-of-antelope-in-a-certain-herd-increases-every-99810.html#p1113618 ?
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oh my mistake, I interpreted it wrong.. Re: The number of antelope in a certain herd increases every   [#permalink] 23 Jun 2014, 08:55

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