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The number of students who play for Town X's high school

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The number of students who play for Town X's high school sports teams is greater than the number of students who play for Town Y's high school sports teams. Because of their greater participation in school athletics, the high school student population of Town X is more physically fit than that of Town Y.

Each of the following, if true, weakens the conclusion above EXCEPT:

A. There are more high school students in Town X than in Town Y.
B. Most high school students in Town Y go to school in Town X and play on their high schools' sports teams.
C. High school sports teams in Town X play and practice for fewer hours per week than do high school sports teams in Town Y.
D. Many high school athletes from Town Y play only on club teams not affiliated with any high schools.
E. High school sports teams in Town Y accept freshman athletes, whereas high school sports teams in Town X do not.
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06 Sep 2011, 08:14
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Will go with E.
the fact that Town Y accepts freshment athletes does not weaken the conclusion..
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E for me as well.

Whats OA?
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The number of students who play for Town X's high school sports teams is greater than the number of students who play for Town Y's high school sports teams. Because of their greater participation in school athletics, the high school student population of Town X is more physically fit than that of Town Y.

Each of the following, if true, weakens the conclusion above EXCEPT:

A. There are more high school students in Town X than in Town Y.
Perhaps challenges the premise that "greater number" is "greater participation", and the impetus to the "greater number" is the greater number of residents in X. Assumption: residents go to their local school only. Perhaps weakens. Maybe correct.

B. Most high school students in Town Y go to school in Town X and play on their high schools' sports teams.
Then, according to the reasoning, Town Y's high school residents should have been more physically fit. Weakens.

C. High school sports teams in Town X play and practice for fewer hours per week than do high school sports teams in Town Y.
Assumption of "greater participation" perhaps because of "greater number" is challenged here. C says the participation is greater in Y's school. So, the opposite of the conclusion should be true. Weakens.

D. Many high school athletes from Town Y play only on club teams not affiliated with any high schools.
Town Y high school residents should be more physically fit because of their participation in athletic events, in the school or out of school.

E. High school sports teams in Town Y accept freshman athletes, whereas high school sports teams in Town X do not.
But, how many athletes? Perhaps only those few athletes are fit. Doesn't challenge. Correct.

Ans: "E"
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08 Sep 2011, 11:48
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High school sports teams in Town Y accept freshman athletes, whereas high school sports teams in Town X do not. (CORRECT ANSWER)
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08 Sep 2011, 12:20
E.... if Y accept freshmen and still the number of people participating in Y are less.... Y sure has a large number of fat men
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High school sports teams in Town Y accept freshman athletes, whereas high school sports teams in Town X do not. (CORRECT ANSWER)
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09 Jul 2013, 10:15
E is a good answer, but can some one explain, how answer A fails ?
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Hi Nikhiil,

A weakens the argument, because the argument simply states that more students in town X play than town Y.

If (let's say) town X has 10times as many people, but only 2times as many participants, the percentage of people in X playing is way lower than in Y.

This then weakens the conclusion.

Does that help?

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After re-reading the question several times, i approached answer A as follows:

Argument concludes that Because there are more no of students playing in high school teams in city X, the number of students who are fit is more than those in City Y. But If City X has more population - > More no of students, so we can reasonably assume that this is why the no of fit students is greater and the participation in sports is not the actual reason .

I hate Weakens the argument EXCEPT, or Strengthens the argument EXCEPT kind of questions. Any tip on how should i proceed on such questions ?
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After re-reading the question several times, i approached answer A as follows:

Argument concludes that Because there are more no of students playing in high school teams in city X, the number of students who are fit is more than those in City Y. But If City X has more population - > More no of students, so we can reasonably assume that this is why the no of fit students is greater and the participation in sports is not the actual reason .

I hate Weakens the argument EXCEPT, or Strengthens the argument EXCEPT kind of questions. Any tip on how should i proceed on such questions ?

Hi nikhill

Each people has each strategy to tackle the "Except" questions. One strategy is:

First, read the question stem carefully, because you may miss the word "except". That's easy, but very important.

Second, turn question into positive direction. "Forget" about "except".

(1) If the question asks "which answer strengthens except..." ==> Find answers that strengthen ==> mark them "wrong". ==> The last answer will be the correct (even when you cannot explain why it's correct)

(2) If the question asks "which answer weakens except.." ==> Find answers that weaken ==> mark them "wrong. ==> The last answer will be the correct (even when you cannot explain why it's correct)

Because if the question asks you "which answer strengthen except..." ==> You will find an option that strengthen the conclusion easier ==> mark it "wrong". The logic of GMAT is "eliminate a wrong answer is easier than choose a correct one". The "Except" question is always more difficult than normal questions, if you try to find the correct answer ==> You will lost time.

Hope it helps.
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Thanks a lot pqhai, I am definitely going to use this strategy for tougher CR questions.
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I think that the challenge in this EXCEPT question is that the correct answer does not necessarily work in a reverse-logic, or strengths the argument, but it acts as "possibly" neutral...
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The argument only talks of "due to greater participation in school athletics, the high school student population of Town X is more physically fit than that of Town Y."
Now here we already know that number of students who play for Town X's high school sports teams is greater than the number of students who play for Town Y's high school sports teams... which is taken as greater participation....

EVEN IF THERE ARE more high school students in Town X than in Town Y AS "A" SAYS.........number of students who play for Town X's high school sports teams CONTINUES TO BE greater than the number of students who play for Town Y's high school sports teams......
HOW CAN IT WEAKEN THE CONCLUSION....... IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO IT.....
The following statement ie conclusion still holds-------
"due to greater participation in school athletics, the high school student population of Town X is more physically fit than that of Town Y."
DIFFERENCE COULD ONLY HAVE COME IF GREATER % OR PROPORTION WOULD HAVE COME INTO PLAY, HERE ONLY GREATER PARTICIPATION( IE NUMBERS ) COMES INTO PLAY WHICH REMAINS UNAFFECTED BY TOTAL NUMBERS OF STUDENTS..............THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN PERCENTAGE PARTICIPATION AND TOTAL PARTICIPATION.....
HENCE "A" DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A WEAKENER ?
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Hi,
I totally agree with semwal. I was mainly confused between options (a) and (e), but I marked option (a) as both the options in no significant way attack the conclusion. The reasoning for option (a) is similar to that given by semwal and for option (e) is that even if freshman students are appointed by the School Y, it doenot necessarily mean that the students in school Y are less physically fit then those in school X or vice versa. I mean it is not actually targeting just like option (a).
Plz if any expert could elaborate as to why option (e) is the answer.
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doubt this is a sub-600 level question.
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Hi,
I totally agree with semwal. I was mainly confused between options (a) and (e), but I marked option (a) as both the options in no significant way attack the conclusion. The reasoning for option (a) is similar to that given by semwal and for option (e) is that even if freshman students are appointed by the School Y, it doenot necessarily mean that the students in school Y are less physically fit then those in school X or vice versa. I mean it is not actually targeting just like option (a).
Plz if any expert could elaborate as to why option (e) is the answer.

Wow, this is just like the question of newspapers in Town S & Town T...

The issue on A is shifting between raw numbers and proportions. The argument states that there are more athletes in Town X than in Town Y. Answer A states that there are more students in Town X. Let's illustrate with some fake numbers. Let's say there are 101 athletes in Town X and 100 athletes in Town Y. If we say there are 10,000 students in Town X and 125 students in Town Y, we have destroyed the conclusion.

As for E, notice the switch. Most answers start with Town X, but E starts with Town Y. It states that Town Y allows for freshman athletes. Again, we will use numbers. Town X has 101 non-freshman athletes. Town Y has 100 athletes, but only 80 non-freshman athletes. This doesn't weaken the argument, it strengthens it!

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