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# The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover

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The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

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29 Sep 2008, 03:08
arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse -AWKWARD

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse -AWKWARD

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

IMO A
THE TERM "EVEN TO.." DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO ME, 'REFUSE' SHUD BE FOLLOWED BY "TO"

GUYS ,PLS HELP ME REGARDING THE USE OF "EVEN" & "BOTH". I GET REALLY CONFUSED WHEN THEY ARE USED

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29 Sep 2008, 03:23
"that" is required. Hence, C and D are out. E does not look right. Between A and B, "such" is better than "like" and hence I will go with B.

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arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

IMO A

Both A & B give correct subjunctive mood.

Correct idiom is such as & not such.
Further such as should be interchangably used for 'for example'. substituting for example in B doesnt make any sense.

B would heve been correct if : ...in eluding such offers as these...

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29 Sep 2008, 06:33
I would go with B.
Both, A and E appear correct but in E, the language of the sentence is such that it seems to state a "fact" rather than give an advice.
The use of "is" is more of a statement in E whereas, the use of "be" in B is more of an advice.

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29 Sep 2008, 06:50
arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

C,D out
they -- no clear referrant

like is not appropriate in A and E.

like these offers ---> offers similar to surviving take over offers
such offers ---> surviving take over offers.

logically "such offers" make sesne here.

IMO
B should be the answer.
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Re: SC: takeover [#permalink]

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29 Sep 2008, 11:37
I don't think "like" in Answer A is appropriate, therefore, I agree with B.

But as jatinrai eluded to, we need "such as" to be the correct idiom - so that would eliminate B.

SO now, I'm officially confused.

x2suresh wrote:
arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

C,D out
they -- no clear referrant

like is not appropriate in A and E.

like these offers ---> offers similar to surviving take over offers
such offers ---> surviving take over offers.

logically "such offers" make sesne here.

IMO
B should be the answer.

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I don't think "like" in Answer A is appropriate, therefore, I agree with B.

But as jatinrai eluded to, we need "such as" to be the correct idiom - so that would eliminate B.

SO now, I'm officially confused.

x2suresh wrote:
arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

C,D out
they -- no clear referrant

like is not appropriate in A and E.

like these offers ---> offers similar to surviving take over offers
such offers ---> surviving take over offers.

logically "such offers" make sesne here.

IMO
B should be the answer.

i don't think "such as" required here.. you are not listing the examples after "such"

1) such as surviving a takeover
2) such offers.. clearly refers to offers that mentioned earlier (surving takeover offers) ..
(more concise)

both are correct and idiomatic..
2 is concise and clear too.. 1 is wordy.. I will choose 2 even if statement (1) exists in the answer choices.

Any takers.
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29 Sep 2008, 17:45
I go with B

arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even
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02 Oct 2008, 20:59
Thanks for the nice disscussion. OA is B

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05 Oct 2008, 18:38
arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

Long time NO subjunctive !!!
C,E eliminated since no that ,advise that is the one we are looking for

E ->company who is actually wrong OUT

between A and B B is better since in A like these is not correct
Hence IMO B
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05 Oct 2008, 18:39
spriya wrote:
arorag wrote:
The odds are about 4 to 1 against surviving a takeover offer, and many business consultants therefore advise that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse to take calls from likely corporate raiders.

(A) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding offers like these be to even refuse

(B) that a company’s first line of defense in eluding such offers be to refuse even

(C) a company defending itself against offers of this kind that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(D) companies which are defending themselves against such an offer that, as a first line of defense, they should even refuse

(E) that the first line of defense for a company who is eluding offers like these is the refusal even

Long time NO subjunctive !!!
C,E eliminated since no that ,advise that is the one we are looking for

E ->company who is actually wrong OUT

between A and B B is better since in A like these is not correct
Hence IMO B
OA plss

OOps OA is there
Didnt notice the discussio while posting
Good question and discussion!!!
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