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The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens, will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members.

A. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

B. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

C. The reasons for the budget cut, of which there is dozens

D. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

E. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

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While I intuitively agree with the OA, I still see no grammar principles whatsoever that would exclude (D) from possible answers.
Upon consideration, however, I think I could explain why (D) would sound a bit unnatural.
What are your ideas?
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The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens, will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members.

A. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

B. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

C. The reasons for the budget cut, of which there is dozens

D. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

E. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

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While I intuitively agree with the OA, I still see no grammar principles whatsoever that would exclude (D) from possible answers.
Upon consideration, however, I think I could explain why (D) would sound a bit unnatural.
What are your ideas?


Well A,B and C are wrong - subject verb agreement.
between D and E.... Kinda tricky...
the which in both refers, ofcourse, to the budget cuts. so there are dozens of budget cuts, not dozens of reasons - i think thats the point here.
both sentences sounds good to me as well but i guess D is better than E because they want to emphasize the right use of which in their eyes...
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agitado wrote:
the which in both refers, ofcourse, to the budget cuts. so there are dozens of budget cuts, not dozens of reasons - i think thats the point here.
both sentences sounds good to me as well but i guess D is better than E because they want to emphasize the right use of which in their eyes...


But one could say that in (E) "which refers to "cuts" as well/
What am I missing?

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Another one I can't be definitive on.

Between D&E, I see the 'of which there are dozens' as referring to the 'budget cuts', not 'reason(s)' so we can effectively take out the clause

for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens as self contained

and then look at what is left:

The reason will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members

The reasons will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members


Both of which work for me.

Is there an OE?
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Is there an OE?

It is D, the sentence is from the Barron's book (which I personally do not like)

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Why not (E) be the answer as explained by @@Plumber.
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Can any one clear the confusion?

I can still see E is OK, than D.
Here is what i understood.

Step 1. The reasons will be revealed.
(Reasons for what?)
Step 2. The Reasons For the budget cuts,
(how many?)
Step 3. Dozen cuts or Dozens ( Dozen cuts, because, which is followed by immediate noun "budget cuts")
(So, are is justified)
Step 4. I AM STUCK HERE.

Should we use The reason, for whole bunch of budget cuts? Or The reasons for each budget cut, as there are dozens?


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agitado wrote:
The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens, will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members.

A. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

B. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

C. The reasons for the budget cut, of which there is dozens

D. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

E. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

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While I intuitively agree with the OA, I still see no grammar principles whatsoever that would exclude (D) from possible answers.
Upon consideration, however, I think I could explain why (D) would sound a bit unnatural.
What are your ideas?


The main verb is "will", which is singular and should have a singular subject "reason". We can safely eliminate
A,C & E. From the remaining B & D - Using the word "which" refers to budget cuts, which require the use of "are". This eliminates B, and we
are left with D.
Please correct me if there are any flaws in my reasoning.
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agitado wrote:
The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens, will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members.

A. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

B. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

C. The reasons for the budget cut, of which there is dozens

D. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

E. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

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While I intuitively agree with the OA, I still see no grammar principles whatsoever that would exclude (D) from possible answers.
Upon consideration, however, I think I could explain why (D) would sound a bit unnatural.
What are your ideas?


As everyone agrees, the answer seems to be D.

But I feel "..of which" refers to the reason and NOT to the budget cuts.
There are dozens of reasons for the budget cuts. It does not mean that there are dozens of budget cuts.

The focus is on the reasons...The reasons are the ones that would be revealed, and "of which" indicates there are dozens of such reasons.

Let us think of a parallel example...
"The chair in the class, of which there are dozens.....blah blah blah"
Does the above statement mean there are dozens of chairs or dozens of classes? I believe the focus is on the chair and not on the class.
Although the singular term "chair" is used, "of which there are dozens" suggests there are multiple such singular "chair"(s).

Also, the word "reason" makes more sense than "reasons" since multiple instances of a singular term are being described after " of which.."
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As far as I know, all these phrases such as - of which, by which, in which , for which, - wherein the relative pronoun' which' is followed by a preposition, will eventually and effectively mean just which( as without the preposition). Therefore I feel that the’ of which’ in the text refers to the cuts rather than the reasons. But of course, meaning wise, there can be theoretically dozens of reasons as there can be dozens of cuts too. But to cite dozens of reasons for dozens of cuts will rather be a little unusual for any budgeter.

Is the source Barrons or PowerPrep? . Incidentally what is this PowerPrep? I have heard of it only in GRE
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Both D and E can be correct depending on what the author intends to tell. There is ambiguity here.
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Hi Kanusha,

This is in response to your PM.

The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens, will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members.

A. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

B. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

C. The reasons for the budget cut, of which there is dozens

D. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

E. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

Since the confusion is between choice D and E, here is my take.

Choice D is better than Choice E because “of which” in the latter can refer to both “The reasons” as well as “the budget cuts” because both these entities are in plural. Choice D removes this ambiguity because there is only one plural entity preceding this relative pronoun.

But I would still recommend everyone to stick to official sentences for practice. Questions from other sources are not representative questions and more often add to the confusion rather than helping us learn something.

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As everyone agrees, the answer seems to be D.

But I feel "..of which" refers to the reason and NOT to the budget cuts.
There are dozens of reasons for the budget cuts. It does not mean that there are dozens of budget cuts.

The focus is on the reasons...The reasons are the ones that would be revealed, and "of which" indicates there are dozens of such reasons.

Let us think of a parallel example...
"The chair in the class, of which there are dozens.....blah blah blah"
Does the above statement mean there are dozens of chairs or dozens of classes? I believe the focus is on the chair and not on the class.
Although the singular term "chair" is used, "of which there are dozens" suggests there are multiple such singular "chair"(s).

Also, the word "reason" makes more sense than "reasons" since multiple instances of a singular term are being described after " of which.."


The question stem had be believing it was dozens of reasons. So I picked E.

After reading the replies, it's obvious it's not dozens of reasons. Consider the reason/reasons have not yet been revealed. That means we don't know how many reasons there are for the budget cuts.
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Good Question

The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens, will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members.

A. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

B. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

C. The reasons for the budget cut, of which there is dozens

D. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens. -> CORRECT

E. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens --> This could refer to both Reasons and Budget Cuts. Hence, Ambiguity error.
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The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens, will be revealed at tonight's city council meeting by the mayor and the council members.

A. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

B. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there is dozens

C. The reasons for the budget cut, of which there is dozens

D. The reason for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens

E. The reasons for the budget cuts, of which there are dozens


Subject reason,
verb:will be revealed

subject :budget cuts
verb: are

'are' is refering to the 'budget cuts' and not the 'reasons',
Reason is one but budgetcuts are many

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