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(1) Take K as 11. So, Sum = S1 + S2 + S3 + S4 + S5+ S6 + S7 + S8 + S9 + S10 + S11 Where, S1 = 1  (1/2) S2 = (1/2)  (1/3) S3 = (1/3)  (1/4) ... S11 = (1/11)  (1/12)
Which implies, Sum = 1  (1/12) /* The terms like +1/2, 1/2, +1/3, 1/3 will be added to zero. Only the first and last numbers remains */ ==> Sum = 1  0.0XXXX > 9/10
If you take k as 12, the SUM = 1  (1/13) which is again > 0.9 Hence SUFFICIENT
(2) K < 19 Consider K as 2. Then the sum is = 1  (1/2) + (1/2)  (1/3) = 1  (1/3) which is Less than 9/10 Consider K as 11, Then the sum is greater than 9/10 /* We already proved this in (1) above */ Hence (2) is In Sufficient



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nravi4 wrote: (1) Take K as 11. So, Sum = S1 + S2 + S3 + S4 + S5+ S6 + S7 + S8 + S9 + S10 + S11 Where, S1 = 1  (1/2) S2 = (1/2)  (1/3) S3 = (1/3)  (1/4) ... S11 = (1/11)  (1/12)
Which implies, Sum = 1  (1/12) /* The terms like +1/2, 1/2, +1/3, 1/3 will be added to zero. Only the first and last numbers remains */ ==> Sum = 1  0.0XXXX > 9/10
If you take k as 12, the SUM = 1  (1/13) which is again > 0.9 Hence SUFFICIENT
(2) K < 19 Consider K as 2. Then the sum is = 1  (1/2) + (1/2)  (1/3) = 1  (1/3) which is Less than 9/10 Consider K as 11, Then the sum is greater than 9/10 /* We already proved this in (1) above */ Hence (2) is In Sufficient Wow, you are good! I have a question, how did you know that you had to test some numbers in the sequence?, Why in that way? I tried to test them but my way was more complex and difficult :s
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If you notice, the sum is simply given by Sn = 1 1/(n+1) = n/(n+1). hence S9 = 9/10. Adding further terms only increases the sum  hence S10 > S9 etc... 1) k>10, clearly sufficient as S10>9/10 = S9 2) k<19, cant say much K can be 1 = 1/2<9/10 but K=11 makes 11/12>9/10 Hence A
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I am not a master in choosing the right number, but as i read & practising the same ... Choose the numbers which are closer to the lowest range & Highest range first.
Example: (1) K > 10. The lowest range number here is: 11. If 11 is sufficient then take 12. If 12 is also sufficient find out if you can make a generalized statement as Sufficient?
The highest range number is: Infinity
(2) K < 19 The lowest range number (according to problem specificaitons) is: 1 The highest range number is: 18
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satishreddy wrote: The sequence s1, s2, s3,.....sn,...is such that Sn= (1/n)  (1/(n+1)) for all integers n>=1. If k is a positive integer, is the sum of the first k terms of the sequence greater than 9/10? 1) k > 10 2) k < 19 Given: \(s_n=\frac{1}{n}\frac{1}{n+1}\) for \(n\geq{1}\). So: \(s_1=1\frac{1}{2}\); \(s_2=\frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{3}\); \(s_3=\frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{4}\); ... If you sum the above 3 terms you'll get: \(s_1+s_2+s_3=(1\frac{1}{2})+(\frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{3})+(\frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{4})=1\frac{1}{4}\) (everything but the first and the last numbers will cancel out). So the sum of first \(k\) terms is fgiven by the formula \(sum_k=1\frac{1}{k+1}\). Question: is \(sum_k=1\frac{1}{k+1}>\frac{9}{10}\)? > is \(\frac{k}{k+1}>\frac{9}{10}\)? > is \(k>9\)? (1) k > 10. Sufficient. (2) k < 19. Not sufficient. Answer: A.
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satishreddy wrote: The sequence s1, s2, s3,.....sn,...is such that Sn= (1/n)  (1/(n+1)) for all integers n>=1. If k is a positive integer, is the sum of the first k terms of the sequence greater than 9/10? 1) k > 10 2) k < 19 I) (1/n)  (1/n+1) where N>=1; k = sum of the sequence; n=1; 1/1  (1/1+1) = 1(1/2) = 1/2 n=2; 1/2  (1/2+1) = 1/21/3 n=3; 1/3  (1/3+1) = 1/31/4 Sum of first 3 = 1/2 + (1/21/3) + (1/3  1/4) = 1  1/4 = First term  last term for sequence Sum of N = 1  (1/k+1) > 9/10 (k+1)/(k+1)(1/k+1) > 9/10 k/(k+1) > 9/10 10k>9k+9? k>9? I)sufficient II) sometimes yes sometimes no; insufficient "A"
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Good Question whoever posted it. Great solution by Bunuel. Good that you didn't solve the sn formula initially to 1/n(n+1) . that way its easy to cancel out terms. Bunuel wrote: satishreddy wrote: The sequence s1, s2, s3,.....sn,...is such that Sn= (1/n)  (1/(n+1)) for all integers n>=1. If k is a positive integer, is the sum of the first k terms of the sequence greater than 9/10? 1) k > 10 2) k < 19 Given: \(s_n=\frac{1}{n}\frac{1}{n+1}\) for \(n\geq{1}\). So: \(s_1=1\frac{1}{2}\); \(s_2=\frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{3}\); \(s_3=\frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{4}\); ... If you sum the above 3 terms you'll get: \(s_1+s_2+s_3=(1\frac{1}{2})+(\frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{3})+(\frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{4})=1\frac{1}{4}\) (everything but the first and the last numbers will cancel out). So the sum of first \(k\) terms is fgiven by the formula \(sum_k=1\frac{1}{k+1}\). Question: is \(sum_k=1\frac{1}{k+1}>\frac{9}{10}\)? > is \(\frac{k}{k+1}>\frac{9}{10}\)? > is \(k>9\)? (1) k > 10. Sufficient. (2) k < 19. Not sufficient. Answer: A.



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mainhoon wrote: If you notice, the sum is simply given by Sn = 1 1/(n+1) = n/(n+1). hence S9 = 9/10. Adding further terms only increases the sum  hence S10 > S9 etc... 1) k>10, clearly sufficient as S10>9/10 = S9 2) k<19, cant say much K can be 1 = 1/2<9/10 but K=11 makes 11/12>9/10 Hence A I don't think sn=1/n1/(n+1) is equal to n/(n+1), it's equal to 1/n(n+1). I find that sequence problems come down to pattern recognition, nravi's solution is probably what it's supposed to look like, you have to see that the terms other than 1 and 1/12 cancel each other out.



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BN1989 wrote: mainhoon wrote: If you notice, the sum is simply given by Sn = 1 1/(n+1) = n/(n+1). hence S9 = 9/10. Adding further terms only increases the sum  hence S10 > S9 etc... 1) k>10, clearly sufficient as S10>9/10 = S9 2) k<19, cant say much K can be 1 = 1/2<9/10 but K=11 makes 11/12>9/10 Hence A I don't think sn=1/n1/(n+1) is equal to n/(n+1), it's equal to 1/n(n+1). I find that sequence problems come down to pattern recognition, nravi's solution is probably what it's supposed to look like, you have to see that the terms other than 1 and 1/12 cancel each other out. sum of \([\frac{1}{n}  \frac{1}{(n+1)}]\) from = 1 to n=n => \(\frac{n}{(n+1)}\) \(1\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{4} + ............... \frac{1}{n} \frac{1}{(n+1)}\) = \(1  \frac{1}{(n+1)}\) =\(\frac{n}{(n+1)}\) because all the terms between 1st and last are cancelled.
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gurpreetsingh wrote: BN1989 wrote: mainhoon wrote: If you notice, the sum is simply given by Sn = 1 1/(n+1) = n/(n+1). hence S9 = 9/10. Adding further terms only increases the sum  hence S10 > S9 etc... 1) k>10, clearly sufficient as S10>9/10 = S9 2) k<19, cant say much K can be 1 = 1/2<9/10 but K=11 makes 11/12>9/10 Hence A I don't think sn=1/n1/(n+1) is equal to n/(n+1), it's equal to 1/n(n+1). I find that sequence problems come down to pattern recognition, nravi's solution is probably what it's supposed to look like, you have to see that the terms other than 1 and 1/12 cancel each other out. sum of \([\frac{1}{n}  \frac{1}{(n+1)}]\) from = 1 to n=n => \(\frac{n}{(n+1)}\) \(1\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{4} + ............... \frac{1}{n} \frac{1}{(n+1)}\) = \(1  \frac{1}{(n+1)}\) =\(\frac{n}{(n+1)}\) because all the terms between 1st and last are cancelled. you're right, thanks for clearing this up.



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Tricky one, needs so serious rephrasing of the stem: Rephrase: for the k number of elements, the sum of all the terms will be = 1/x  1/(x+k) (try yourself!  intermediate terms cancel out) 1. Say k = 11, we get 1/1  1/(1+11) = 11/12 > 9/10. Suff 2. k<19. it could be k=11 as above or k=8, where you get 1/1  1/(1+8) = 8/9 < 9/10. Insuff. A.
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bunuel, Please let us know how to solve this one using the A.P formula. Regards, Sach
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