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# The state of California contains 58 counties, of which some of them ha

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04 Aug 2015, 05:18
mikemcgarry wrote:
Subanta wrote:

Hey Mike, nice explanation.. I was wondering can we generalize this is a rule that a pronoun can never be followed by a participle?

Dear Subanta,
I'm happy to respond. Your question is unusual, because in the OA of this SC question, a pronoun IS followed by a participle.

(C) The state of California contains 58 counties, some of them having a population less than 10,000.
"them" = pronoun
"having" = participle
This is the OA and it is 100% correct.

We certainly can't generalize a rule against something that is true in this correct sentence.

My friend, I will caution you against looking for a "rule based" way to approach GMAT SC. Yes, there are a few valid rules, and several more guidelines, but one cannot rise to GMAT SC mastery by learning some complete set of rules. Grammar is not mathematics. There is an irreducible living quality to language. I will recommend this blog:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/how-to-imp ... bal-score/

Does all this make sense?
Mike

Idioms have made my life easier in SC but I get your point! Thanks Mike!
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28 Jul 2017, 01:22
Is there a better explanation as to why D is incorrect?
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28 Jul 2017, 09:45
Merged topics. Please, search before posting questions!
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28 Jul 2017, 15:50
mikemcgarry, would the following be correct in this case (had it been an option)?

The state of California contains 58 counties, of which some have a population less than 10,000.

I realize that the post is old and I might be bothering you Thanks in advance!
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28 Jul 2017, 17:17
mohit2491 wrote:
mikemcgarry, would the following be correct in this case (had it been an option)?

The state of California contains 58 counties, of which some have a population less than 10,000.

I realize that the post is old and I might be bothering you Thanks in advance!

Dear mohit2491

I'm happy to respond.

My friend, your version is awkward and not at all how a native speaker would phrase it. I guess it's grammatically correct, but that's beside the point. The version that would be 100% correct in every respect is:

The state of California contains 58 counties, some of which have a population less than 10,000.

Does this make sense?
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28 Jul 2017, 21:35
mikemcgarry wrote:
mohit2491 wrote:
mikemcgarry, would the following be correct in this case (had it been an option)?

The state of California contains 58 counties, of which some have a population less than 10,000.

I realize that the post is old and I might be bothering you Thanks in advance!

Dear mohit2491

I'm happy to respond.

My friend, your version is awkward and not at all how a native speaker would phrase it. I guess it's grammatically correct, but that's beside the point. The version that would be 100% correct in every respect is:

The state of California contains 58 counties, some of which have a population less than 10,000.

Does this make sense?
Mike

Hi Can you please tell me why 'B' is wrong?
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23 Nov 2017, 23:43
this is an important grammar issue and pattern in SC in gmat; it is called absolute phrase. Test takers must know this.
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25 Nov 2017, 19:32
umeshpatil wrote:
The state of California contains 58 counties, of which some of them have a population less than 10,000.
(A) of which some of them have
(B) some of which having
(C) some of them having
(D) some of them have
(E) some of which to have

+1 kudo sir. I liked this question.
I was between C and D, but chose C correctly as dependent clause will not have its individual verb.

Independent or Dependent, A clause will always have a subject & a verb.

Here C is correct because ...., some of them (referring noun counties) + ing modifier - A noun + noun modifier
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27 Nov 2017, 12:45
The state of California contains 58 counties, of which some of them have a population less than 10,000.
(A) of which some of them have -redundant nouns
(B) some of which having -having is wrong
(C) some of them having -Correct
(D) some of them have -creates a run on sentence
(E) some of which to have -to have is wrong
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15 Nov 2019, 07:09
mikemcgarry,

will you pls suggest what is wrong with option A ?
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22 Nov 2019, 01:47
mikemcgarry
The following is the explanation given by magoosh to why option A is incorrect.

The word “which” is a relative pronoun, and this means two important things. First, “which” begins a subordinate clause that, like any clause, must have a full [noun] + [verb] structure. Second, the pronoun “which” itself is the subject of this subordinate clause.
Choice (A) has a bonafide verb, “have”, but it gets in trouble with the second rule — it has a double subject, the word “which” and the phrase “some of them”

But I am confused here what if "which" here is acting as a subordinating conjunction and not a relative pronoun? I read that to differentiate between a relative pronoun and a subordinate conjunction is to check whether who, which, etc are the subject of sentence, if there's another subject present then they act as subordinating conjunction and not relative pronoun so why is A incorrect?
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