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The suicide wave that followed the United States stock

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New post 03 May 2016, 13:40
options B and D are actually strengthener So incorrect
option A is a very generalized statement describing some factors affecting suicides during historical period so incorrect
option E is talking out of context, use of phrase ' seasonal differences ' makes this choice incorrect
option C challenges the conclusion and thus the weakener hence correct answer
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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.


I did not understand how option C weakens the conclusion - "the “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact"

Experts,
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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.


I did not understand how option C weakens the conclusion - "the “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact"

Experts,
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Hi,

first what is the conclusion- The suicide shock wave is MORE of a legend than a fact..
Premise to support that- In that year, after the crash, the Oct and Nov data was comparatively lower than OTHER months of THAT year. And ONLY 3 other months in that year were lower than these TWO months.

what is C?
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.

what does it tell us?
the numbers may be lower as compared to other months BUT the numbers were much higher than IS usual for these months..
There may be some reasons why certain months may have a tendency to have higher suicide rate than other months of same year. reason could be related to season of harvesting, financial year closure , disease prone monthsleading to loss of near ones etc..
SO C shows this flaw in reasoning of CONCLUSION
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gurpreet07 wrote:
The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.


I would underlie all the strategy.
Conclusion: The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Here legend means something other than the fact, something that is not true. Legend also means a myth. So author wants to say "there was no such suicide wave for real. It was an ordinary thing. It might have been a false propaganda."

Question Type: Weaken the conclusion: Anything that states the authenticity of the term suicide wave by demonstrating this was not a usual occurrence.

A) This is generally true. But how this tells that suicides of October were not a common occurrence.
B) This actually strengthens the argument by stating that observed phenomena is a usual one. Notice the word - 'always'
C) Suicide rate was considerably higher than in any other occurrences of similar fashion (October and November). This could describe that such a thing was never seen before. Note suicide rates in months of October and November 1929 are compared to the suicide rates of same months in preceding years. This is correct.
D) We are concerned about the suicide wave mentioned in the passage. -October 1929
E)This would happen in all the years not only 1929. Again this is too general and doesn't comment on the main thing - suicide wave
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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer
months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?

(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.
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gurpreet07 wrote:
The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?

(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.

(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.

(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.

(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.

(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.

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October and November had low suicide totals + Summer months when the stock market was up had higher totals ----> The "suicide wave" story is a legend

(A) isn't much of a weaken. The stock market crash might be included in psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors. If it is, this strengthens.

(B) strengthens. It gives us another reason why the suicide figures are a bit higher in October and November (because they always are). Maybe people really don't like Halloween and Thanksgiving.

(C) is our weaken. If October and November of 1929 had significantly more suicides than the several years before and after, it seems that the "suicide wave" was more than a legend.

(D) doesn't clearly strengthen or weaken. We don't know if the suicide figures are different from the years surrounding. We don't know anything about December and we don't know anything about the beginning of the year.

(E) also strengthens. It tells us that we shouldn't expect October and November to be the same as other months. But we have no idea if it should be higher or lower. All we know is they aren't "normal" months.

Answer C
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New post 04 May 2018, 02:53
more legend than fact---------means less to fact
MORE TOWARDS LIE
…….

hence suicide rates is lower---LIE
suicide rates shud be high--fact

Option C--says this pretty much clear
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