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Hi Anil,

I am not so sure.. Its not enough to say that a number of suicides happened and added to the existing trend.

Its jut my opinion. Can be wrong. :roll:

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I'm seeing lots of back and forth on this question, so I feel inclined to give a response with solutions and my reasoning behind the correct answer choice. I hope this is of some benefit to my fellow GMATWarriors.

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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?

Pre-thinking the answer: The conclusion is that the suicide wave following the US stock crash of OCT 1929 is more legend than fact. The main premises are that OCT and NOV 1929 have low suicide rates relative to the rest of that year's month's, with the exception of three other months. If I am to challenge the conclusion, I need to demonstrate that the suicide wave is high relative to some other factor such as previous years' Octobers and Novembers. If I can show, for example, that the suicide rate for the months of October and November in the years 1920-1928 were far lower than those for October and November of 1929, I could sufficiently show that there actually was an increase in suicides in October and November of 1929, thereby challenging the conclusion that the suicide wave was practically a non-event.

(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.

Incorrect - While true, it is unhelpful in challenging the question as it lacks any sort of evidence to suggest that the particular months of October and November in 1929 actually had a relatively high suicide rate. Remember, we need to identify something very particular in order to challenge the conclusion. This answer choice is far too broad.

(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.

Incorrect - This actually solidifies the stimulus's conclusion. This answer choice basically states that there was practically no change in the relative suicide rate for the months of October and November. We need to state the precise polar opposite (not to be confused with logical opposite).

(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.

Correct - Let's say that, for the years 1920-1928, there are an average of 100 suicides every July verses an average of 15 and 10 for the months of October and November, respectively. So if in October and November of 1929 there is an average suicide rate of 60 and 40, respectively, the average for the months of October and November are still relatively low in comparison to July's 100 suicides. If, however, all Octobers and Novembers for the years 1920-1928 had only 10 suicides each per year, but in 1929 had 60 and 40, respectively, then we suddenly see that the suicide wave was in fact something far beyond the typical. That is precisely what this answer choice does for us, and, thus, it is the correct answer choice. Choice C demonstrates that the suicide rate is in fact relatively high because the October and November average was far higher relative to those months during the several preceding and following years.

(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.

Incorrect - Again, this actually supports the conclusion of the stimulus rather than challenge it.

(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other
months.


Incorrect - This does not speak to the relative frequency that we are hoping to challenge. This answer choice is therefore irrelevant for our purposes.
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The answer has to be option C. Good explanation in the posts above :-)
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options B and D are actually strengthener So incorrect
option A is a very generalized statement describing some factors affecting suicides during historical period so incorrect
option E is talking out of context, use of phrase ' seasonal differences ' makes this choice incorrect
option C challenges the conclusion and thus the weakener hence correct answer

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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.


I did not understand how option C weakens the conclusion - "the “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact"

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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.


I did not understand how option C weakens the conclusion - "the “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact"

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Hi,

first what is the conclusion- The suicide shock wave is MORE of a legend than a fact..
Premise to support that- In that year, after the crash, the Oct and Nov data was comparatively lower than OTHER months of THAT year. And ONLY 3 other months in that year were lower than these TWO months.

what is C?
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.

what does it tell us?
the numbers may be lower as compared to other months BUT the numbers were much higher than IS usual for these months..
There may be some reasons why certain months may have a tendency to have higher suicide rate than other months of same year. reason could be related to season of harvesting, financial year closure , disease prone monthsleading to loss of near ones etc..
SO C shows this flaw in reasoning of CONCLUSION
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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?
(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.


I would underlie all the strategy.
Conclusion: The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Here legend means something other than the fact, something that is not true. Legend also means a myth. So author wants to say "there was no such suicide wave for real. It was an ordinary thing. It might have been a false propaganda."

Question Type: Weaken the conclusion: Anything that states the authenticity of the term suicide wave by demonstrating this was not a usual occurrence.

A) This is generally true. But how this tells that suicides of October were not a common occurrence.
B) This actually strengthens the argument by stating that observed phenomena is a usual one. Notice the word - 'always'
C) Suicide rate was considerably higher than in any other occurrences of similar fashion (October and November). This could describe that such a thing was never seen before. Note suicide rates in months of October and November 1929 are compared to the suicide rates of same months in preceding years. This is correct.
D) We are concerned about the suicide wave mentioned in the passage. -October 1929
E)This would happen in all the years not only 1929. Again this is too general and doesn't comment on the main thing - suicide wave

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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer
months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?

(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.
(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.
(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.
(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.
(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.
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The “suicide wave” that followed the United States stock market crash of October 1929 is more legend than fact. Careful examination of the monthly figures on the causes of death in 1929 shows that the number of suicides in October and in November was comparatively low. In only three other months were the monthly figures lower. During the summer months, when the stock market was flourishing, the number of suicides was substantially higher.

Which one of the following, if true, would best challenge the conclusion of the passage?

(A) The suicide rate is influenced by many psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors during any given historical period.

(B) October and November have almost always had relatively high suicide rates, even during the 1920s and 1930s.

(C) The suicide rate in October and November of 1929 was considerably higher than the average for those months during several preceding and following years.

(D) During the years surrounding the stock market crash, suicide rates were typically lower at the beginning of any calendar year than toward the end of that year.

(E) Because of seasonal differences, the number of suicides in October and November of 1929 would not be expected to be the same as those for other months.

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October and November had low suicide totals + Summer months when the stock market was up had higher totals ----> The "suicide wave" story is a legend

(A) isn't much of a weaken. The stock market crash might be included in psychological, interpersonal, and societal factors. If it is, this strengthens.

(B) strengthens. It gives us another reason why the suicide figures are a bit higher in October and November (because they always are). Maybe people really don't like Halloween and Thanksgiving.

(C) is our weaken. If October and November of 1929 had significantly more suicides than the several years before and after, it seems that the "suicide wave" was more than a legend.

(D) doesn't clearly strengthen or weaken. We don't know if the suicide figures are different from the years surrounding. We don't know anything about December and we don't know anything about the beginning of the year.

(E) also strengthens. It tells us that we shouldn't expect October and November to be the same as other months. But we have no idea if it should be higher or lower. All we know is they aren't "normal" months.

Answer C
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