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The Supreme Court has ruled that public universities may collect student activity fees even with students' objections to particular activities, so long as the groups they give money to will be chosen without regard to their views.

(A) with students' objections to particular activities, so long as the groups they give money to will be
(B) if they have objections to particular activities and the groups that are given the money are
(C) if they object to particular activities, but the groups that the money is given to have to be
(D) from students who object to particular activities, so long as the groups given money are
(E) though students have an objection to particular activities, but the groups that are given the money be

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I found the question to be poorly worded, because it is not clear who the "their" in the part after the underlined section refers to. But IMO, it refers to the universities. So, the court has ruled that if the money is not given based on the universities views, then money can be collected from all students, even if some students have objections to certain activities.
My choice is D!
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05 Oct 2005, 12:34
Go with D...

Eliminate B and C - they needs to refer to students..but it doesn't
A- use of the infinitive
E - seems wrong..not sure exactly why
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The Supreme Court has ruled that public universities may collect student activity fees even with studentsâ€™ objections to particular activities, so long as the groups they give money to will be chosen without regard to their views.

(A) with studentsâ€™ objections to particular activities, so long as the groups they give money to will be
(B) if they have objections to particular activities and the groups that are give n the money are
(C) if they object to particular activities, but the groups that the money is give to have to be
(D) from students who object to particular activities, so long as the groups given money are
(E) though students have an objection to particular activities, but the groups that are given the money be
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05 Oct 2005, 14:06
This one was very tricky, I could narrow between B or D and ultimately chose D because it is better constructed and there is reference to THEY.

OA / OE Please ?
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05 Oct 2005, 16:35
A, B &C are ambiguous in their referring to 'they'. E's construction is awkward.
D is the best choice
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A - 'they' is a little ambiguos here
B,C - 'they' has no clear referent
E - awkward phrasing

D is the best choice.
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06 Oct 2005, 07:04
OA is D
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06 Oct 2005, 14:59
even from is idiomatic. And D has that. so D is the only correct answer.
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06 Nov 2005, 08:12
E for me;

They in B & C is ambiguous; D can be ruled out because it should be 'students' not 'student'; they in A is also ambiguous
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06 Nov 2005, 08:22
D would be ok, if had "students". E is also not correct.
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06 Nov 2005, 16:01
Both B and C are worng because they have no reference. A is wrong because "even with students' objections" modifies student activity fees and this doesn't make much sense. E is wrong because "but the groups that are given the money be" doesn't make much sense. Why is the verb of this clause subjunctive?. Only D remains.
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06 Nov 2005, 19:41
only D and E refer clearly to the students

D) from student who object to particular activities, so long as the groups given money are

E) though students have an objection to particular activities, but the groups that are given the money be

IMO D is out, it should be written like this :
student who OBJECTS or studentS who object

so E, because of POE on D
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06 Nov 2005, 21:51
HIMALAYA wrote:
D would be ok, if had "students". E is also not correct.

I guess "student" is a typo.
should have been "students".
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06 Nov 2005, 22:36
isn't the expression "groups given money" awkward?
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07 Nov 2005, 00:13
Lets see.

A. even with is unidiomatic
B. They is ambiguous
C. They is ambiguous

So we are left wth D and E.

now D has problem with subject verb agreement. it should have been students who object or student who objects. So we can keep it out.

Although E is not the best way to write a sentece, by POE it is the answer choice.
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07 Nov 2005, 00:40
I would go with 'E'

A - Singular/Plural error
B,C - wrong usage of '...they....'
D - Singular/Plural error
E - Is the correct answer. The meaning is also quite clear.
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07 Nov 2005, 12:06
I am so sorry guys but gamjatang is right, student was a typo. Sorry, sorry sorry my fault.
But still you were right only D remains and D is the OA:
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01 Apr 2006, 01:02
Can someone please explain why it is D?

1. I dont really understand "the groups given money". It means that the groups receive money? I never heard about such a construction with given. The passive form could be the groups are given money. I tried to search on internet, but couldnt find any explanation of "someone + given + smthing"

2. I dont understand the meaning of the complete sentence. Who are the groups? Does that mean that the university, through student groups, can collect money from students? Who is chosing the group without regard to its view, the university or the student.

Im completly stuck on this SC! Thanks for your explanations.
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01 Apr 2006, 01:25
The Supreme Court has ruled that public universities may collect student activity fees even with studentsâ€™ objections to particular activities, so long as the groups they give money to will be chosen without regard to their views.

(A) with studentsâ€™ objections to particular activities, so long as the groups they give money to will be - uses be which is not liked in GMAT, with student objections id too wordy(B) if they have objections to particular activities and the groups that are give n the money are - they refers to students or universities, not clear(
C) if they object to particular activities, but the groups that the money is give to have to be - uses be which is not liked in GMAT, uses ambiguous they
(D) from students who object to particular activities, so long as the groups given money are - CORRECT
(E) though students have an objection to particular activities, but the groups that are given the money be - uses be which is not liked in GMAT, wordy
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I thought the correct idiom would be "as long as" and not "so long as".

Didn't know it exists. Seems I am alone to wonder about this point...
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