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Pl. note the word ‘both’ is a wrong diction in the context. There is only one style namely the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington in which Monk’s jazz was rooted and not two styles as the text wants to make out by deviously citing two musicians. Therefore, all choices that use the word ‘both’ namely A, B and E are out of the race. Between C and D, C is a fragment. D is the correct answer.
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Please explain ur answers..!


- Notice the use of the idiom "both X and Y"

[X] - A. Both [rooted....] and [Duke Ellington] - these 2 items are not parallel.
[X] - B. Both [in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith] and [Duke Ellington] - these 2 items are not parallel.
[V] - C. This options fixes the parallelism issues, but interduce a sentence fragment. The sentence that starts with "Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk" has not verb.
[X] - D. Correct.
[X] - E. Both [in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith] and [Duke Ellington] - these 2 items are not parallel.

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About the answer D, isn't that a wordy expression?
...a body of work that was rooted..., would it be better if I just say: ...a body of work rooted..., without 'that was'?

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About the answer D, isn't that a wordy expression?
Keep wordiness for the end. It's the kind of thing you'd turn to if you had nothing else (in terms of grammar and meaning) that could help you take a decision.
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About the answer D, isn't that a wordy expression?
...a body of work that was rooted..., would it be better if I just say: ...a body of work rooted..., without 'that was'?

Thank you!


Notice that wordiness is a style preference, and not a grammar or logical flaw.

Hence when you check for "wordiness" make sure that both sentence you compare are grammatically correct & logically identical.

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The answer lies in identifying the ||ism error. both in x and in y should have avoided the error if at all we consider the Y an independent entity.

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Can I eliminate A B E just cause they have used both...and?

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Can I eliminate A B E just cause they have used both...and?

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Nope. "Both X and Y" is a correct idiom. The issue here is the X and Y in the answers you mentioned are not logicaly parallel. Read my answer above for more details.

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D is the correct answer
Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

IF you remove "both" from Option A, then it would be the perfect sentence, even better than D.
Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.


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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

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D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

Doesn't this sound like there were two persons who actually produced a body of work i.e. jazz pianist and another one is composer Thelonious monk.

(though I see "he" in later part of the sentence)


Please help me understand this


Jazz pianist XYZ and composer Thelonious Monk -> these are two people.

Jazz pianist and composer -> modifies Thelonious Monk.


also this choice is a run -on.read carefully

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D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

Doesn't this sound like there were two persons who actually produced a body of work i.e. jazz pianist and another one is composer Thelonious monk.

(though I see "he" in later part of the sentence)


Please help me understand this


Jazz pianist XYZ and composer Thelonious Monk -> these are two people.

Jazz pianist and composer -> modifies Thelonious Monk.


also this choice is a run -on.read carefully


IMO, with Answer Choice D,original sentence is not a run-on

COMMA+Conjunction make the sentences NOT a run-on in any way.



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Hello @e-gmat,
Could you please explain the use of "was" - in "that was rooted" in option D.
was suggests that it no longer is rooted .

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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory-
(A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Although the OG 16 mentions D as the correct answer, i would like to know the use of comma ,which makes b as the right choice in my assumptions.
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Easiest Clue to rule out B, both with and creates redundancy.

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this question tests you on parallelism -

Note that this correlative conjunction - Both X and Y - requires X and Y to be perfectly parallel.

Let us look at the answer options -

A - "both rooted in ...and Duke Ellington" - these two things are not in parallel.

B - "both in the stride piano ... and Duke Ellington" - these two things are not in parallel.

C - "Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory"

Note that "yet" is used as co-ordinating conjunction here. Hence, two things that it contrasts must be parallel. Also, note that the portion in blue is a modifier.

"in many ways he stood apart ..." - a clause - is contrasted with "Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk" - a phrase.
Hence, incorrect.

D - Correct answer. Note that we are not using the correlative conjunction both X and Y.

"... rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington" - these two things are in parallel.

E - "both in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington"
these two things are not in parallel.
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory-
(A) Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted
(B) Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both
(C) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
(D) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
(E) Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both

Although the OG 16 mentions D as the correct answer, i would like to know the use of comma ,which makes b as the right choice in my assumptions.
Much guidance needed here.


The commas are fine in both (B) and (D). I assume you're talking about the modifier 'the jazz pianist and composer'/'jazz pianist and composer', which has commas in (B) but not in (D), right?

But you're in luck: the GMAT doesn't test commas in this way. The only situation in which I've seen the GMAT test commas, is when you're dealing with essential vs. inessential modifiers. Commas can sometimes give you a clue that something is wrong, but they aren't really tested directly, so you should focus on other issues first.
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Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted in the stride-piano tradition of Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

A. Thelonious Monk, who was a jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work both rooted

B. Thelonious Monk, the jazz pianist and composer, produced a body of work that was rooted both

C. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk, who produced a body of work rooted
--> fragment.

D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted
--> correct.

E. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work rooted both
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